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Archives of this page are [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Claude_T/Archive1 here (2007-2010)], [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Claude_T/Archive2 here (2010-2012)], [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Claude_T/Archive3 here (2012-2013)] and [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Claude_T/Archive4 here (2014-2015)]..
Archives of this page are [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Claude_T/Archive1 here (2007-2010)], [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Claude_T/Archive2 here (2010-2012)], [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Claude_T/Archive3 here (2012-2013)], [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Claude_T/Archive4 here (2014-2015)], [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Claude_T/Archive5 here (2015-2016)]  and [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Claude_T/Archive6 here (2017-2019)].


== ChristmasSongbook.net ==
== New edition not showing up / thanks for the redirect ==


Clever idea to point to the mirror site at the Wayback Machine! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 11:35, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Claude, thanks for the redirect on my user page (and for bumping my edition of [[As Vesta was from Latmos hill descending (Thomas Weelkes)|As Vesta was]] to the top of the page for chronological ordering--I'll be sure to do that next time).
:Hi, Carlos. Max has been the first at this, before me. Hundred of broken links aren't broken anymore BUT: 1. Should we download the files then upload them on CPDL (remember that, for Christofer R. Baker, only .GIF were shown - we have to insert gifs into blank pages, then generate PDFs - heavy work). 2. Regarding simoneolivieri.altervista.org, the site also didn't disappear but perhaps its owner withdrew files for some reason. Who are we to make those files reappear without his consent? ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 11:52, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
::1. As long as we have the Wayback Machine, I don't think this will be necessary. 2. Well, considering that Simone hasn't made any specific request to have his works withdrawn from CPDL, I think that yes, we are in our right to make every effort in order to keep his works available to the public. :^)  —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 12:36, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Bad news concerning freesheetmusic: even though the site has been mirrored, most of the files have not. :(   [[Claude Goudimel]] is an exception (maybe waiting for another Claude to rescue him, lol). —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 15:14, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
:I think Claude rescued also other composers of this site about 15 minutes ago: most of the files can be reached, isn't it? ;-) See [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Johann_Walter Johann Walter]'s Ein feste Burg. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 15:22, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
::Hmmm did you try to click on the [http://web.archive.org/web/20070208183355/http://www.free-sheetmusic.org/cms/?Vocale_muziek:Walter%2C_Johann pdf link]? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 15:36, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
:::Ah, deception. I proceed over other sites anyway. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 15:41, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
::::Good news: some specific files can be recovered at archive.org using another wayback date. See [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Ein_feste_Burg_(Johann_Walter) Ein feste Burg (Johann Walter)] ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 11:33, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
:::::Hey, great find! :)) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 12:21, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


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I see my new edition listed when I view [[As Vesta was from Latmos hill descending (Thomas Weelkes)|As Vesta was]] while signed in, but not otherwise. Is this normal? Am I missing something?
Claude, I fixed a botched RepaceText invocation, replacing <nowiki>{{website|xmassongbook.net}}</nowiki> with <nowiki>{{website|xmassongbook}}</nowiki>.  I'm mentioning this now, in case you didn't catch the mistake.
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::O, yes Chuck, I saw yesterday that my change didn't work. And saw your correction during my rehearsal of Haydn. Didn't took time to thank you. Now, it's done! ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:12, 5 November 2015 (UTC)


== Recovering broken links ==
Thanks!<br>
[[User:Maia.mcc|Maia.mcc]] ([[User talk:Maia.mcc|talk]]) 04:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
:You're welcome, Maïa! Recent changes are seen only when connected (logged in). But after a few hours, perhaps a day or so, they remain seeable by anybody.


This seems exceptionally clever, Claude!<br>
:By the way, we use to add, as a source file, an MXL (compressed musicXML) file with each edition. The reason for that is to be more user-friendly for the users who don't have the same notation software as the editor. If they have a recent software, they can open such file, to adapt the pitch to their choir abilities, to make rehearsal files, etc. You may add any file to your edition clicking on 'Upload a file' in the left pane of any CPDL page, under 'Tools'. You'll also, next time, be able to add an MXL file in lieu of the Sibelius one through the AddWork form. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 06:45, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 22:44, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks, James. It's time to think to donate something to archive.org. And I'm not against funding also my past work a little in some way. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:05, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
I wrote to Manfred Hößl, Frédéric Debons (immediate answer) and Adrian Cuello (no answer). I'm tired. Who'll write to Philip Legge, speaking of his bunch of broken links, like [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Great_Mass_in_C_minor,_KV_427_%28Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart%29 here]? [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 11:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


== IMSLP versus the Wayback Machine ==
== Michael Praetorius - Quem pastores laudavere a 4 ==


Hi Claude! As you probably know, the contents of the WIMA website were merged into IMSLP a couple of years ago. Links that point to the old website are not really ''broken'', unless the edition was not imported into IMSLP for some reason. Taking [[Morirò, cor mio (Mogens Pedersøn)]] as an example, the files could be easily located at [[imslp:Madrigali a cinque voci, Libro 1 (Pedersøn, Mogens)]]. Linking to the old WIMA website at the Wayback Machine is a valid alternative, but linking to IMSLP guarantees that the user will download the most up-to-date version of that file. It's up to you. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 12:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Claude,
:How could a user know that, searching 'Moriro, etc', then seeing on the list that such title can't be read on the page shown after our link, it has to click elsewhere, on other tabs, words, etc. Which number of clicks do you think is a maximum to say it's not a broken link. Why didn't you (or any other admin) correct these 'not-broken-but-marked-as-broken' links, since years? Hmm? [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 13:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 
::Hey Claude, take it easy. I'm not saying that what you did is wrong. I totally agree that after WIMA's merger into IMSLP it's now harder to find the works. But if one is going to fix things, what is the best alternative? That's what I'd like to discuss. I have myself corrected several WIMA links to point to the proper IMSLP page. Depending on the copyright license used on WIMA, copying their files locally would be yet another alternative. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 14:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
there is an existing page of [[Quem pastores laudavere a 4 (Michael Praetorius)]], which first edition claims to be from [[Musae Sioniae, fünffter Theil (Michael Praetorius)]], but the page is not linked to this publication. The two other publications on this page are similar but different, and all three are not any version from "Musae Sioniae V". (In "Musae Sioniae" the numbers 88, 89 and 90 are "Quem pastores a 4", but with different extras).
:::I just meant that no, "the files could" NOT "be easily located at"... Just reverted my edit to show everybody how easy it was. What is the link to the 'partbook format'? [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 15:06, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 
So I added a second page [[Quem pastores laudavere a 4 with children (Michael Praetorius)]], which I linked to "Musae Sioniae V, No 88".
 
If I find time I will add No. 89 from the autograph, put it to [[Quem pastores laudavere a 4 (Michael Praetorius)]] and link it to "Musae Sioniae V, No. 89", because it's the most similar source for the existing three editions.
[[User:Volker Seibt]] ([[User talk:Vseibt|talk]]) 13:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
:Thanks for your edits. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:03, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 
== Appreciation ==
Thank you for the warm welcome, you are very kind! I am glad to be part of this amazing community. I am grateful to have this once in a lifetime opportunity to work with you and to meet others. It is a pleasure and a privilege for me to be here. I owe you my life! --[[User:Music4Ever|Music4Ever]] ([[User talk:Music4Ever|talk]]) 21:35, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
:Feel free to ask, if any question. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 06:26, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
::Anytime! --[[User:Music4Ever|Music4Ever]] ([[User talk:Music4Ever|talk]]) 06:42, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
== Samuel Babcock ==
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_G._Babcock There is no person named [[Samuel Babcock]] that is a composer. This Wikipedia source links to a bishop named [[Samuel G. Babcock]]. This page also has the wrong birth and death dates. Please delete this. This person is not a composer, he was a bishop. Not relevant to this wiki. --[[User:Music4Ever|Music4Ever]] ([[User talk:Music4Ever|talk]]) 17:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
== Wikipedia version of this guy as a bishop, not a composer ==
'''Samuel Gavitt Babcock''' (1851–1938) was an American bishop in the Protestant Episcopal Church. He graduated from the Episcopal Theological School at Cambridge, Massachusetts, in 1891. After holding pastorates in Rhode Island and Massachusetts he was archdeacon of Massachusetts from 1903 to 1913, when he was elected suffragan bishop of Massachusetts. --[[User:Music4Ever|Music4Ever]] ([[User talk:Music4Ever|talk]]) 17:32, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
:I'm knowing nothing about him. Please use the forums before any deletion. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 17:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
::Please show me a link to the forums. --[[User:Music4Ever|Music4Ever]] ([[User talk:Music4Ever|talk]]) 17:38, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
:::In the left pane of any CPDL page, including this one ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 17:40, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
== 2020 ==
 
Happy new year to you, best wishes for 2020! --[[User:Music4Ever|Music4Ever]] ([[User talk:Music4Ever|talk]]) 20:43, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
==MXL file==
Hi Claude. You added an MXL file to my page https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Heart_of_Spring_(Mark_Chapman) I have updated the MuseScore file but don't have access to update this one. Thanks. [[User:MarkChapman|MarkChapman]] ([[User talk:MarkChapman|talk]]) 04:12, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, Mark. Thank you for your contributions. I've updated the MXL file. Next time, feel free to add your own MXL file and warn me to remove mine ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:MarkChapman|MarkChapman]] ([[User talk:MarkChapman|talk]]) 07:30, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again for the new MXL file. There is apparently a workaround to get MusicXML out of Lilypond, but I haven't mastered it yet.[[User:MarkChapman|MarkChapman]] ([[User talk:MarkChapman|talk]]) 11:47, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 
== At first the mountain rill (George Alexander MacFarren) ==
 
Thanks for adding the text, Claude. Must have got distracted after uploading the files.<br>
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 12:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
:You're welcome, James! [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 12:31, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 
== Qui habitat by Ortells ==
 
Claude, I entered the details of this work today but after doing this I did not get the usual email with the code to use in creating the new work. Did I do something wrong? [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 17:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, Jonathan, Many thanks for all your contributions! For what I can see, you uploaded three files concerning that work, but I don't see that you filled the AddWork form as before, for the other works. Please go to the Ortell's composer page, click on 'Add new work' on the upper right part. Fill the AddWork form, but no need to upload the files, you did it already. By the way, adding an MXL (compressed XML) file allows more users to use your edition(s), not only those who have Sibelius. Feel free to upload the MXL file in lieu of the Sibelius one, if you don't want to upload both files. Kind Regards, [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 21:37, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 
Claude. Thanks for this. My version of Sibelius (5.2.5) can only import, not export XML files. The cost of upgrading the software, which in all other respects does everything I want, is disproportionate. However, I will keep an eye out for a possible solution [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 09:51, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 
 
==Thanks...==
 
belatedly, for the welcome, and for fixing my newbie's capitalization error. [[User:Wilus|Wilus]] ([[User talk:Wilus|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
: You're welcome, William ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 11:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 
== Valls Magnificat a 8 (incomplete) #13405 ==
 
Claude
 
Could you please rename this work "Magnificat a 8 tertii toni". I have discovered a complete version of it which will shortly be uploaded. Merci bien!
 
Jonathan [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 22:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, Jonathan,
:[[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) just did it. Thanks to him.
:[[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 04:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
== Thanks, Claude ==
HI, Claude. Thank you for your welcome and for reviewing my page! I'm new to CPDL as a contributor, so I hope I don't make too many mistakes (for example, is really this the place for writing to you?). Yesterday I added some more information on my page, but I can see them only if I'm logged in: Is there something wrong? Have a nice day! Paolo Zoccarato[[User:Paolo Zoccarato|Paolo Zoccarato]] ([[User talk:Paolo Zoccarato|talk]]) 06:06, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, Paolo. You're welcome. You did it all right. It's normal: When one is logged, he reaches the main server, www.cpdl.org, which shows the changes quite instantly. When not logged in, you go to ww1, ww2 or ww3; they show the changes hours after. Kind Regards, [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 09:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 
== Request of score removal ==
 
Hi Claude,
I would ask you to remove the music files of [[Fermarono i cieli (Alfonso Maria de' Liguori)]] because I am publishing my arrangement with Carus Verlag. You can obviously leave the page and the description.
Thank you,
[[User:Fraspi|Fraspi]] ([[User talk:Fraspi|talk]]) 07:59, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 11:39, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. Would it be possible removing it from the cache <[[File:Fermarono.pdf]]> too? [[User:Fraspi|Fraspi]] ([[User talk:Fraspi|talk]]) 09:59, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
:::Done. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 11:11, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 
== Settings of Benedictus by Juan del Vado ==
 
Claude,
 
I have 4 settings of the Benedictus by this composer extracted from his masses. Is it OK to put them all on one page (with separate score numbers) or should they each be on a separate page?
 
Thanks
 
Jonathan [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 09:24, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, Jonathan. Yes, all on one page, in my opinion. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 09:39, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 
== As ever I saw ==
 
Claude
 
As well as the Warlock setting of this title Mick and I have produced a reconstructed version of the original music. See http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/As_ever_I_saw_(Anonymous) . For some reason this does not appear on the list of recent works. Can you correct this?
 
Jonathan [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 06:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, Jonathan,
:I've restored
:<nowiki>[[Category:Sheet music]]</nowiki>
:line that was missing at the end of the page (perhaps removed accidentally when you pasted the 'Text and translations' section.
:Please restore the accurate <nowiki>[[Category:<Era> music]]</nowiki> just below.
:[[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 06:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 
Done [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 13:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 
== Dido and Aeneas by Purcell ==
 
Claude, I see you have effectively managed this work on CPDL. Would you object if I were to edit it just to highlight that it is not "complete", flagging missing movements (such as the prologue) and noting that those movements have been reconctructed (e.g. by Thurston Dart) although they are in copyright so cannot appear on CPDL.
 
Jonathan [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 07:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
: No problem, Jonathan, please proceed. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 10:23, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 
== …without leaving redirect ==
 
Hi Claude,
I know you're mindful of clutter, and I've taken to trying not to leave too many redirects when moving pages myself. "What links here" is useful though to avoid redlinks on text- and other hand-maintained pages. I'd be happy to hear what you think about [[Help talk:Style conventions#Apostophe's]] though! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 02:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
:The use of an apostrophe is the responsability of the editor and I respect it.
:1. The question here was about typography: using a curved apostrophe.
:a. The curved apostrophe is typographically correct and is used for printed material. But as I read in the page you pointed:
Although ubiquitous in typeset material, the typographic apostrophe ( ’ ) is rather difficult to enter on a computer, since it does not have its own key on a standard keyboard.
:Until yesterday a user wanting to search for works like [[L'aura che'l verde Lauro (Luca Marenzio)]] or [[I' piango (Luca Marenzio)]] shouldn't have found them easily, even on the Marenzio['s] page, the creator of that pages having used a curly apostrophe in the title.
:b. As our Wiki system rejects the curved apostrophe with the diacritics after Z in the alphabetic sorting, such titles weren't found where expected.
 
:2. As you (and Carlos), I'm "trying not to leave too many redirects when moving pages". So I leaved the curly apostrophe without redirect, because the redirect became superfluous;
 
:3. Perhaps do you imply that I should have searched for links to the old typography throughout all the database. Anyway, ninety percents of composer pages are automatized and such a change is therefore instantly reflected on them. I'm in favo[u]r of automatizing ALL of the front composer pages (not removing other lists but putting them just a click away). The ten percents of composer pages that are manually maintained should be maintained manually by those who don't want them to be automatized.
:[[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 08:10, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 
== difficulty creating new score pages ==
 
Claude,
 
When I try entering a new score page I get this error message "There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or create this page". Am I doing something wrong? Also I now find I can log on in Microsoft Edge but not in FireFox. Can you help? [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 10:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, Jonathan,
:I'm not a specialist, but I guess you're not logged in, when you see that. Please, try to type an 's' after 'http' in the URL address bar above, or a complete 'https://' string before the page title, if you don't see anything before 'www.cpdl.org'. I hope this helps. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 12:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
::Claude,
::Thanks for your help. The score pages mysteriously appeared overnight. In trying to get the system to work yesterday I am afraid I seem to have created 4 redundant music numbers - 697 to 700. [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 11:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
:::No problem, Jonathan. From time to time, we need such unused CPDL numbers, to split an existing edition or some other reason ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 12:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 
== My User Page ==
 
Would you mind explaining to me why you have edited my user page?
[[User:NicholasNotabene|NicholasNotabene]] ([[User talk:NicholasNotabene|talk]]) 15:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
:Thank you for your contributions to CPDL.
:All user pages here are so:
:1. A talk page under the declared nickname
:2. An editor page under your full name.
:Feel free to fill your editor page.
:All users may now talk to you on your talk page.
:I hope you agree.
:Kind Regards, [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 15:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the reply.
[[User:NicholasNotabene|NicholasNotabene]] ([[User talk:NicholasNotabene|talk]]) 16:20, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 
== Anton Bruckner - Tantum ergo ==
 
Dear Claude,
 
There is apparently some confusions about Anton Bruckner's settings of the Pange lingua and Tantum ergo.
 
Bruckner composed two settings of the Pange lingua: WAB 31 and WAB 33 (phrygian, with Tantum ergo) and eight Tantum ergo: chronologically WAB 32 (wrongly issued by Grasberger as "Pange lingua, WAB 32), WAB 43, the four settings of WAB 41, WAB 42 and WAB 44.
 
You have wrongly reverted "Tantum ergo, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)" to "Tantum ergo, WAB 31 (Anton Bruckner)". I have reverted it.
 
There are currently two different pages on WAB 32: "Tantum ergo in D Major, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)" and "Tantum ergo, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)". These two pages should be merged.
 
Best regards, [[User:Meneerke bloem|Meneerke bloem]] ([[User talk:Meneerke bloem|talk]]) 15:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
:I've merged the most recent page content into the oldest, as usual here (to keep history). [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. [[User:Meneerke bloem|Meneerke bloem]] ([[User talk:Meneerke bloem|talk]]) 18:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 
== My common.js ==
 
Hi Claude, you have delete my user Javascript page, the reason was assumed spam/vandalism. This javascript page only affects my own useraccount and nobody else or anything else on this wiki. Why would I want to vandalize or spam my own user account? I just added a gadget which I use for my useraccounts on many other wikis, I am storing the code centralized in a wiki where I have admin rights. This is where the include-statement comes from, there is absolute no harm in it. If you do not want users create their own javascript page a bureaucrat can to change the wiki's central settings, [[User:Manuela1|Manuela]] ([[User talk:Manuela1|talk]]) 14:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, Manuela,
:Just after I removed the script (the reason had to be choosen in a short list, not quite appropriate, though), I wanted to restore it. A bug in the system didn't let me succeed in that. I then took advice by my fellow admin Max who mainly wrote: "I get the same error: I guess that there may be a bug or some special configuration to do when handling pages containing Javascript code.", "It seems this user registered in 2016, and only used our wiki to test wiki code probably used somewhere else. The Javascript code entered is a custom code used on another wiki " and "It's probably unharmful, however I'm not that happy that someone uses our wiki as if it were their test wiki...".  [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:35, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
::I am not using this wiki as testwiki, I have added some scores in 2016. I wanted to add more then, for some reason which I do not remember I did not continue, maybe because I started to create my own wikis, [[User:Manuela1|Manuela]] ([[User talk:Manuela1|talk]]) 20:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
:::Perhaps that page could help you: [[User:Claude_T/DPL_queries/LY]] I suppose that scripts are allowed only by admins, here as on all other wikis. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 21:24, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
::::Thank you for the link, Claude. I could not figure out an easy way to find all Lilypond scores, and Lilypond code is displayed as text without syntax highlighting, I guess this were the reasons why I stopped editing her, greetings [[User:Manuela1|Manuela]] ([[User talk:Manuela1|talk]]) 08:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
:::::You're welcome, Manuela. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 08:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 
== Why dost thou shoot (Wilbye) ==
 
Claude, for some reason, Capella produces a corrupt mxl file, with the bass missing. Seth spotted this and I tried reloading, but it didn't work. The same thing was true of the version you uploaded. I'll try playing around with the format, but I think the file needs deleting if it has errors.
Hope you are surviving the boredom of Covid. At least, the number of contibutions stays high!
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 08:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
:Ah, Ok, feel free to remove link and file itself.
:Yes, all well here: more time for site maintenance ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 10:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 
It occurred to me that it might be a problem with the multiple curved braces in the system, since I seem to recall that earlier unsolved problems involved my editions with multiple braces. So I produced a revised version without braces. However, when I uploaded the mxl file, deleting the previous one, and then downloaded the mxl file from the works page, it was the old version that appeared! [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 10:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
:I've seen that in the past. Machines on Internet don't resend a file if it has the same name on your disk, even if its content is different. The solution is to delete the previous version in the list. Using a different browser generally does the trick. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 11:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 
Right, I've changed the name of the mxl file before uploading and that seems to have solved the problem! Didn't need to change browsers. Do you still have a list of the my uploads where we had  similar problem withe the mxl file?[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]])
 
I think there is a problem with Capella when creating mxl files that have more than one curly brace. I've just uploaded a version of The Goslings (Bridge) and when I checked the file that has been uploaded, the stave descriptions were misplaced. So I'll adjust for that in the future.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 15:06, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 
:i don't retrieve the list of missing MXL files. I remember there were just a few. I opened the file mentioned above, under Finale, and it seems correct to me, including a (singing) Bass line. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 
== Odes to Music ==
 
Claude
 
Is it worth having a specific category for "odes to music". These would include, for instance, Schubert's "An die musik" and Purcell's "Music for a while". There are quite a few of these on CPDL already and I am working on one by the composer Maurice Greene at the moment. [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 12:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
:Sorry, I've no advice about the question. Please try the forums or another admin. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 13:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 
== New works remain in cache ==
 
Hi Claude,
I'm rather new to CPDL, so I'm wondering why my last 4 new work contributions (since June 13) remain visible in the cache as well as in the normal list. I saw you did some small editing on my editions which is quite OK.
:Hi, Wytze, on your composer page, I clicked on ‘Edit’, then on ‘Save’ and renewed the operation. BTW, three of your files remain orphans (they aren't linked from/to any 'Requiem' work page). Please create the corresponding work page soon. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 12:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
:: Hi, Wytze. Thanks for your Requiem. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 
== New edition PDF cannot be opened ==
 
Hello, Claude.  I've been reworking the Distler Jahrkreis.  At No. 11 (Wie Schön leucht't) I cannot open the PDF that I recently uploaded.  I tried to upload it again, but it was rejected as an identical file. 
Also, with No. 1 (O Heiland, reiss die Himmel auf), I cannot update the MXL file, also rejected as identical. 
If you have and suggestions, I'd be grateful for them.
----Jim Pearson
:Hi, Jim. 1. At No. 11, We can see, clicking on the white icon, just right of the PDF one (that leads to the file history: [[File:Distler11WieSch%C3%B6n.pdf]]) that you uploaded under the same name and extension different files that aren't PDF ones. I've just reverted your uploads to the last correct PDF version. 2. At No. 1, I've removed the MXL file to make way for you to upload and link it. To update further files, just let me know. Kind Regards, Claude.
 
== new member help ==
 
Dear Claude, I am new to CPDL. I am a collector of old music and also a composer and arranger.
I have transcribed into Finale 2014 many early works. I have just upgraded to the new finale 27 but have not updated my 2014 files as I wanted to make sure before I start that work that I am doing it the right way to make it available on CPDL or some other platform.
 
Among many other compositions, I have transcribed the following complete collections:
 
1. William Boyce: Cathedral Music Vol. 1-3 first edition. I have done this as sort of an Urtext leaving the original clefs, time signatures, etc. I have also typed in the figured bass as provided by Boyce
 
2. William Boyce / Vincent Novello: Novello's organ realization (1850s) of Boyce's Cathedral Music Vol. 1-3
 
3. Samuel Arnold: Cathedral Music Vol. 1-3 first edition. I have done this as sort of an Urtext leaving the original clefs, time signatures, etc. I have also typed in the figured bass as provided by Arnold
 
4. Samuel Arnold: Organ realization by Samuel Arnold of his Cathedral Music (about 1790)
 
5. Maurice Greene 40 Anthems first edition -- again as an Urtext
 
I have many more but these are a sample.
 
 
I want to know how to proceed and have the following questions.
a. Is this the right platform for these old compositions?
b. Finale 27 stores the files in a **.musx file. It also allows an export to: **.PDF,  **MusicXML, and **MIDI files. Do I submit all 4 file types?
c. I also do transcribe and translate old Spanish documents for the Cibola project at Berkeley U. of California. For those projects I take high resolution photos of the individual pages and provide them for the fellow researchers. Does CPDL also want that for these old documents?
d. How do I proceed? Should I try to submit one of my transcriptions and then ask you to edit/check the work before I follow with the others?
 
Sorry to have so many questions but I am a neophyte and want to do this work in the best fashion.
 
Mike Wallen [[User:Mike Wallen|Mike Wallen]] ([[User talk:Mike Wallen|talk]]) 12:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, Mike. Thanks for coming to us and willing to contribute. This is the right place, concerning all choral/vocal music.
:As you can see, we already have a composer page for [[William Boyce]] and other composers you cited. So, the straight way to take is to check (on composer page) if the work has already a work page. If yes, just click on "Add new edition" (upper right part of the work page). If not, just click on "Add new work" (upper right part of the composer page).
:AddWork form that opens has to be filled, including picking files to upload (there is a line for one of each file type: PDF, MXL (compressed MusicXML), and so on). I consider that these two formats are recommanded and are sufficient for most of our users, should they be conductors or singers.
:Our general architecture is based on one independant work page for each composition, that is, containing all movements of the work and all editions contributed by all our editors. Work pages are automatically linked from/to their corresponding composer page.
:You'll also see that we already have publication pages as [[Cathedral Music, Volume 1 (William_Boyce)]]. A newly edited work page appears on its corresponding publication(s) when the 'Pub[lished]' field of the AddWork form is correctly filled. That can be adjusted later.
:About [manuscript] facsimiles, particularly of instrumental music, please consider IMSLP procedures.
:Receive our warm welcome in advance for your contributions. Don't hesitate to ask for more. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 13:57, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 
== [[Missa Quand'io pens'al martire (Orlando di Lasso)]] ==
 
Hi Claude,
 
I've noticed you adding MXL files and, not yet having braved PhotoScore, wonder if I might ask you for [[Missa Quand'io pens'al martire (Orlando di Lasso)]] for a friend who wants a transposition? Regards, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 02:04, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, Richard. I don't add MXL files to PDFs under 'Personal' copyright, sorry. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:52, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 
== Page title wrong / cannot move page ==
 
Hi Claude,
 
The page title for [[Weinachts Oratorium (Christmas Oratorio), BWV_248 (Johann Sebastian Bach)]] has an ugly spelling mistake "Weinachts Oratorium" (should be spelled "Weihnachtsoratorium" with an "h" and it is just one word).
It seems I don't have the right to move the page, but maybe you can?
[[User:Marabu|Christof Chen]]
:Thanks for spotting this. Done. By the way, you can sign your words with four tildes in a row. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:38, 30 December 2021 (UTC)


== Retired edition numbers ==
== Alleluia: Maria Dei Genitrix (Adam Rener) ==


Hi Claude,
Hi Claude,
I noticed you [https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Alleluia:_Maria_Dei_Genitrix_(D-Ju_MS_33)_(Adam_Rener)&diff=next&oldid=1644465 moved this page to Alleluia: Maria Dei Genitrix (D-Ju MS 33) (Adam Rener)]. Disambiguation would be needed if he wrote other ''Alleluia: Maria Dei Genitrix'' that are found in different sources, but is that the case here? NG lists only the one. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 08:44, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
:I agree, Richard, so I went back to the previous page title. [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 10:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
== Repeated duplicate Add work forms submitted under your name. ==
Hi Claude.
Since about an hour an a half ago, there have been four essentially duplicate Add work forms submitted for " Abschiedslied der Zugvögel, Op. 63 No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)", all supposedly by you, with manual wiki code submission option: yes.  The "user/submitter" has used your name and two of the three email addresses that I have on file for you. The CPDL numbers thus used are 70040-70043.  But none of these has actually been posted.  I'm not sure what to do about this or or how we might block further malicious submissions like this.  Anyway, I thought you need to know. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 17:10, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
:Hi, Chuck. It's me. I try to create a new edition and I don't see anything appear on the corresponding work page nor in my mailbox(es), even in addscore@cpdl.org! [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 17:19, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
::Hi Claude. I just forwarded a copy of the CPDL 70040 submission.  I hope you get it!! -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 17:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks, Chuck, I've been able to add my edition at [[Abschiedslied der Zugvögel, Op. 63 No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)]]. [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 18:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
== Help with editing a page ==
Hello,
I uploaded a work Mia vita and made a duplicate page with the title Madrigal under Salamone Rossi. Is it possible to delete the Madrigal page?
Thank you,
[[User:Jameshiggs|Jameshiggs]] ([[User talk:Jameshiggs|talk]]) 23:51, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
:Geoffrey ([[User:GeoffG|GeoffG]] ([[User talk:GeoffG|talk]]) has already removed the page. Thanks to him.  [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 06:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
== Strip the willow ==
Apologies for creating two unrequired pages (The willow song (Christopher Shaw) and a composer page in my name. This was due to the recurring trouble of aggressive auto completion. I have raised a note on the forum: i'm afraid the the superfluous pages need to be deleted, not further incorporated.[[User:Cjshawcj|Cjshawcj]] ([[User talk:Cjshawcj|talk]]) 19:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
:Done ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 19:42, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
== Unhosted composers ==
Claude,
I want to upload a score by Daniel Purcell who is classified as an "unhosted" composer. The option to "add new work" is not available. How should I add the new score?
Thanks for your help
Jonathan [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]])  09:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
:Hi, Jonathan. I’ve removed the « unhosted » tag. Let me know if there’s another issue left. [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 10:59, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Claude, that seems tyo have solved the problem, thanks Jonathan [[User:Jgoodliffe|Jgoodliffe]] ([[User talk:Jgoodliffe|talk]]) 11:57, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
== MXL addition ==
Thanks… I was unaware I could add both MSCZ and MXL (the form didn’t give me that option), and this is my first upload here. Perhaps either the form could be amended or this could be mentioned in the docs?
[[User:Mirabilos|mirabilos]] ([[User talk:Mirabilos|talk]]) 17:18, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
:Hi... (Your first name here ;-). Thanks for your contributions to this site. You are right, only one line is given for a "Music notation file". I guess that programmers have thought that one would upload an .mscz file OR an MXL one [the MXL one being usable by quite all users, the MSCZ one only for MuseScore users]. So, feel free to add only the MXL file. If you want, you may also upload manually your MSCZ file, adding then a link to it, copied/pasted from one of the links in the edition.
:By the way, I must say that all users may use only their nickname to download files, write anything,… until they create a (copyrighted) edition, whatever the copyright is, even a no-copyright one. All people may know who has the rights or has freed the copyright. So, if you agree, let me know what [First name-Name] should be used for editor. Your talk page will ever remain as "mirabilos". [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 17:43, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
::I’d rather supply the MSCZ file as well because that’s the original and MusicXML export is… incomplete, I guess. But I can easily add both, I generate them already anyway.
::Copyright law specifically permits pseudonymous publications (https://dejure.org/gesetze/UrhG/66.html and §10 as well), and we can even have them added in our ID cards in Europe, so it will remain as this. [[User:Mirabilos|mirabilos]] ([[User talk:Mirabilos|talk]]) 17:54, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
== Modification de fichier XML ==
Bonjour Claude,
J'ai apporté des corrections à A - 31 Psaume et Acclamation.
Or, c'est vous qui aviez téléversé le fichier XML. Je ne peux donc pas le corriger.
Je change son nom. Vous pouvez donc supprimer le vôtre.
Bien à vous,


I was looking at you user contributions page hoping to figure out how you did the cleanup on [[Befiehl du deine Wege (Michael Praetorius)]]. Is this something I can learn to take care of  myself, or should I in the future just leave you a note? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 05:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Rémi.
:Hi, Richard, I just deleted one of the two editions (leading to the same file). Its CPDL number becomes free and won't be recycled, except if a duplicated CPDL number (two different editions under only one CPDL number) appears during the same period. Thanks for your help offering. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 13:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
:Excellent, merci, Rémi, de me l'avoir signalé. J'ai supprimé mon fichier obsolète. [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:24, 9 June 2023 (UTC)


== Work title messed up ==
== Du lenkest alles (Philippe Goibaud-Dubois) ==


hallo mr claude!
Dear Mr. Tallet,
in yesterdays contrib of handel chandos anthem I had a copy/paste issue in the title of the work, (added part of the name of another piece). found no way to edit the wrong title away. on the other hand, on the works page I managed to insert a link to a page that apparently does not exist, although the corresponding files are downloadable. please help!


thx in advance
thank You for Your correction of Du lenkest alles (Philippe Goibaud-Dubois). May You correct a little mistake which i have done? The title must be "Du lenkest alle" (without s in alles). I cannot correct this myself methinks.
Thank You and best regards
Michael Hauber. [[User:Michael Hauber|Michael Hauber]] ([[User talk:Michael_Hauber|talk]]) 14:27, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
: Done. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 15:10, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:: Merci! MH


t.p.
== MXL File ==
:Hi, Tulipo. Thanks for your contributions to CPDL. I corrected the title. Also, to sign your textual interventions like here, you can type four tildes in a row : [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:53, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Claude, thank you for your advice. I prepare my music files with LilyPond, thus I don't have an MusicXML-Export. Sorry.
Greetings Burkard (Temuta)
[[User:Temuta|Temuta]]
:Ah, Ok then ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


::hello claude, thanks for cleaning up! and here are 4 tildes in a row Tulipo Petressian 14:56, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
== Thank You ==
Thank you for your welcome, Claude!


:::further question: I seem to have a double identity on CPDL due to upper/lower case issues, caused by my habitual neglect of the upper case, and CPDLs apparent routine of always heaving initial characters into the upper case. so on the one hand I sign in as Tulipo petressian, but am linked to an empty user page; my editions, on the other hand are linked to user page Tulipo Petressian which carries info and link to edition-list. could you kindly unite these two tulipos?! Tulipo Petressian 15:09, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
I stumbled a bit by adding a descriptor to the Anonymous composer of second title that I submitted - sorry about that.


:::: I searched within the upper right search window for "Tulipo petressian" but found no page. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 08:18, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble to fix that, or easier to leave it as is:
::::: your colleague carlos fixed this problem yesterday, I assumed at your request..Tulipo Petressian 08:32, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Anonymous (Medieval Organum, c. 1000-1100)
::::Hi Claude, all he wanted was to have his user page and username connected somehow. I've done that using redirects, as usual. Now if someone clicks on [[User:Tulipo petressian]], s/he is redirected to his user page. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 14:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


== Laus tibi Christe (Johannes Roullet)  ==
I should have left it as simply "Anonymous" and put the other notes in the editor remarks.


Claude. thanks for sorting that. when I was adding the Latin, it mysteriously disappeared when I saved the page! So I resorted to "poem" as a temporary fix. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 07:56, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
At any rate, thank you for your work and your hospitality.
:Hi, James. I found that was produced by the equal sign at #7b. I replaced it by a ':', not equivalent in the meaning, anyway. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 08:15, 15 January 2016 (UTC)


Well spotted. I certainly didn't notice it, and wouldn't have realised its significance if I had![[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:02, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
John
[[User:Jstromgren|Jstromgren]] ([[User talk:Jstromgren|talk]]) 23:57, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, John, you're welcome! "Category:Anonymous compositions" includes already 1,645 works, so specifications, often about publication source, have already been included in composer name (between parentheses) by users.
:Kind Regards, Claude. [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


:Hello James and Claude! There are two ways to circumvent this problem:
== Psaume 23 by Wytze Oostenbrug ==
# Use <tt><nowiki>{{=}}</nowiki></tt> instead of = in the text;
# Add the "text=" named parameter to Text template: <tt><nowiki>{{Text|Latin|text=</nowiki></tt>
:Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 20:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)


== Flags ==
Dear Claude,


Hi Claude, thanks for adding a flag for Venetian; I've provided one for Aymara, also. I just couldn't understand why you decided to equate Provençal and Occitan to Catalan in the {{tl|Flag}} template. Even though they are closely related, the idea behind that template is to provide the flag of the ''political entity'' under which that language is found, in those cases where the language never reached enough independence to bear a flag of its own. Following this logic, both Provençal and Occitan can be considered "French" (i.e., from France) languages. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 01:43, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Something was going wrong with uploaden de PDF of my new entry titled Psaume 23.
: Hi, Carlos. We use those flags for languages, not for 'political entities'. Basque is the same language on both sides of the border between France and Spain. It has a flag we use. Catalan/Occitan/Provençal are quite the same language on both sides of the same border but with three different names. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 08:16, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
I tried to reverse to the version of 24 feb 2024 16:00 (the second loaded). Got however the comment, that that one is exectly the same as the last loaded 24 feb 2024 16:15, which certainly is not the case. For instance, I added my year of birth in the heading.
A new upload from the version of 16:00 (the correct one) also failed.
Could you try to restore the version of 24 feb 2024 16:00?
Thanks in advance.
Wytze Oostenbrug
:Hi, Wytze. Done ;-) I've just had to click on the second line of the file history table that appears when you click on the white icon just right from the regarding PDF icon. You should have been able to do that yourself. Kind Regards. One can sign his words here typing four tildes in a row, producing the following time stamp and signature: [[User:Claude T|Claude T]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


== [[Un flambeau, Jeannette, Isabelle (Nicolas Saboly)]] ==
:Hi Claude, That was just what I have done also, but it doesn't work with the version of 16:00, that is really the correct one. That is the second loaded version. Reloading that version gives the error, that it is the same as the current version, which is certainly is not (other size). Perhaps you can remove all loadings after the second (from 24 feb 2024 16:00) or otherwise remove all pdf, so I can add the right one from fresh.[[User:Wytzecpdl|Wytzecpdl]] ([[User talk:Wytzecpdl|talk]]) 16:27, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


Hi Claude, thanks for performing the merger of those editions, as discussed long ago. I just think that it could have been done by moving one of the merged pages (probably [[Un flambeau, Jeanette Isabella (Nicolas Saboly)|Un flambeau, Jeanette Isabella]]) into the new title (as I have inadvertently done to the talk page), instead of creating a new page from scratch. Would you mind if I do that? None of your recent edits to the page will be lost. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 17:10, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
:hi Claude, things are OK now!! So thanks for the help.[[User:Wytzecpdl|Wytzecpdl]] ([[User talk:Wytzecpdl|talk]]) 19:28, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
::No problem, Carlos. In fact I cut and pasted all content from the one to the other before merging all others there. (I forgot the 'moving-a-page' process. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 17:16, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
:::That's fine! Don't worry about the misspellings, I'll keep your title as is. ;) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 17:41, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
::::BTW, could you have a look, on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Claude_T/bac-a-sable my DPL queries page] at the lists numbered 15 and 16: NewWork should have 0 occurrences and PostedDate many more, comparing to list n° 7, IsNew list. I can't figure out what the hell is this. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 17:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

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New edition not showing up / thanks for the redirect

Hi Claude, thanks for the redirect on my user page (and for bumping my edition of As Vesta was to the top of the page for chronological ordering--I'll be sure to do that next time).

I see my new edition listed when I view As Vesta was while signed in, but not otherwise. Is this normal? Am I missing something?

Thanks!
Maia.mcc (talk) 04:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome, Maïa! Recent changes are seen only when connected (logged in). But after a few hours, perhaps a day or so, they remain seeable by anybody.
By the way, we use to add, as a source file, an MXL (compressed musicXML) file with each edition. The reason for that is to be more user-friendly for the users who don't have the same notation software as the editor. If they have a recent software, they can open such file, to adapt the pitch to their choir abilities, to make rehearsal files, etc. You may add any file to your edition clicking on 'Upload a file' in the left pane of any CPDL page, under 'Tools'. You'll also, next time, be able to add an MXL file in lieu of the Sibelius one through the AddWork form. Claude (talk) 06:45, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Michael Praetorius - Quem pastores laudavere a 4

Hi Claude,

there is an existing page of Quem pastores laudavere a 4 (Michael Praetorius), which first edition claims to be from Musae Sioniae, fünffter Theil (Michael Praetorius), but the page is not linked to this publication. The two other publications on this page are similar but different, and all three are not any version from "Musae Sioniae V". (In "Musae Sioniae" the numbers 88, 89 and 90 are "Quem pastores a 4", but with different extras).

So I added a second page Quem pastores laudavere a 4 with children (Michael Praetorius), which I linked to "Musae Sioniae V, No 88".

If I find time I will add No. 89 from the autograph, put it to Quem pastores laudavere a 4 (Michael Praetorius) and link it to "Musae Sioniae V, No. 89", because it's the most similar source for the existing three editions. User:Volker Seibt (talk) 13:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits. Claude (talk) 14:03, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Appreciation

Thank you for the warm welcome, you are very kind! I am glad to be part of this amazing community. I am grateful to have this once in a lifetime opportunity to work with you and to meet others. It is a pleasure and a privilege for me to be here. I owe you my life! --Music4Ever (talk) 21:35, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to ask, if any question. Claude (talk) 06:26, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Anytime! --Music4Ever (talk) 06:42, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Samuel Babcock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_G._Babcock There is no person named Samuel Babcock that is a composer. This Wikipedia source links to a bishop named Samuel G. Babcock. This page also has the wrong birth and death dates. Please delete this. This person is not a composer, he was a bishop. Not relevant to this wiki. --Music4Ever (talk) 17:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia version of this guy as a bishop, not a composer

Samuel Gavitt Babcock (1851–1938) was an American bishop in the Protestant Episcopal Church. He graduated from the Episcopal Theological School at Cambridge, Massachusetts, in 1891. After holding pastorates in Rhode Island and Massachusetts he was archdeacon of Massachusetts from 1903 to 1913, when he was elected suffragan bishop of Massachusetts. --Music4Ever (talk) 17:32, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm knowing nothing about him. Please use the forums before any deletion. Claude (talk) 17:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Please show me a link to the forums. --Music4Ever (talk) 17:38, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
In the left pane of any CPDL page, including this one ;-) Claude (talk) 17:40, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

2020

Happy new year to you, best wishes for 2020! --Music4Ever (talk) 20:43, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

MXL file

Hi Claude. You added an MXL file to my page https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Heart_of_Spring_(Mark_Chapman) I have updated the MuseScore file but don't have access to update this one. Thanks. MarkChapman (talk) 04:12, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Mark. Thank you for your contributions. I've updated the MXL file. Next time, feel free to add your own MXL file and warn me to remove mine ;-) Claude (talk) 07:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! MarkChapman (talk) 07:30, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks again for the new MXL file. There is apparently a workaround to get MusicXML out of Lilypond, but I haven't mastered it yet.MarkChapman (talk) 11:47, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

At first the mountain rill (George Alexander MacFarren)

Thanks for adding the text, Claude. Must have got distracted after uploading the files.
Jamesgibb (talk) 12:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome, James! Claude (talk) 12:31, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Qui habitat by Ortells

Claude, I entered the details of this work today but after doing this I did not get the usual email with the code to use in creating the new work. Did I do something wrong? Jgoodliffe (talk) 17:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan, Many thanks for all your contributions! For what I can see, you uploaded three files concerning that work, but I don't see that you filled the AddWork form as before, for the other works. Please go to the Ortell's composer page, click on 'Add new work' on the upper right part. Fill the AddWork form, but no need to upload the files, you did it already. By the way, adding an MXL (compressed XML) file allows more users to use your edition(s), not only those who have Sibelius. Feel free to upload the MXL file in lieu of the Sibelius one, if you don't want to upload both files. Kind Regards, Claude (talk) 21:37, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Claude. Thanks for this. My version of Sibelius (5.2.5) can only import, not export XML files. The cost of upgrading the software, which in all other respects does everything I want, is disproportionate. However, I will keep an eye out for a possible solution Jgoodliffe (talk) 09:51, 3 March 2020 (UTC)


Thanks...

belatedly, for the welcome, and for fixing my newbie's capitalization error. Wilus (talk) 09:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome, William ;-) Claude (talk) 11:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Valls Magnificat a 8 (incomplete) #13405

Claude

Could you please rename this work "Magnificat a 8 tertii toni". I have discovered a complete version of it which will shortly be uploaded. Merci bien!

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan,
Richard Mix (talk) just did it. Thanks to him.
Claude (talk) 04:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Claude

HI, Claude. Thank you for your welcome and for reviewing my page! I'm new to CPDL as a contributor, so I hope I don't make too many mistakes (for example, is really this the place for writing to you?). Yesterday I added some more information on my page, but I can see them only if I'm logged in: Is there something wrong? Have a nice day! Paolo ZoccaratoPaolo Zoccarato (talk) 06:06, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Paolo. You're welcome. You did it all right. It's normal: When one is logged, he reaches the main server, www.cpdl.org, which shows the changes quite instantly. When not logged in, you go to ww1, ww2 or ww3; they show the changes hours after. Kind Regards, Claude (talk) 09:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Request of score removal

Hi Claude, I would ask you to remove the music files of Fermarono i cieli (Alfonso Maria de' Liguori) because I am publishing my arrangement with Carus Verlag. You can obviously leave the page and the description. Thank you, Fraspi (talk) 07:59, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Done. Claude (talk) 11:39, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Would it be possible removing it from the cache <File:Fermarono.pdf> too? Fraspi (talk) 09:59, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Done. Claude (talk) 11:11, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Settings of Benedictus by Juan del Vado

Claude,

I have 4 settings of the Benedictus by this composer extracted from his masses. Is it OK to put them all on one page (with separate score numbers) or should they each be on a separate page?

Thanks

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 09:24, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan. Yes, all on one page, in my opinion. Claude (talk) 09:39, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

As ever I saw

Claude

As well as the Warlock setting of this title Mick and I have produced a reconstructed version of the original music. See http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/As_ever_I_saw_(Anonymous) . For some reason this does not appear on the list of recent works. Can you correct this?

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 06:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan,
I've restored
[[Category:Sheet music]]
line that was missing at the end of the page (perhaps removed accidentally when you pasted the 'Text and translations' section.
Please restore the accurate [[Category:<Era> music]] just below.
Claude (talk) 06:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Done Jgoodliffe (talk) 13:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Dido and Aeneas by Purcell

Claude, I see you have effectively managed this work on CPDL. Would you object if I were to edit it just to highlight that it is not "complete", flagging missing movements (such as the prologue) and noting that those movements have been reconctructed (e.g. by Thurston Dart) although they are in copyright so cannot appear on CPDL.

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 07:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

No problem, Jonathan, please proceed. Claude (talk) 10:23, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

…without leaving redirect

Hi Claude, I know you're mindful of clutter, and I've taken to trying not to leave too many redirects when moving pages myself. "What links here" is useful though to avoid redlinks on text- and other hand-maintained pages. I'd be happy to hear what you think about Help talk:Style conventions#Apostophe's though! Richard Mix (talk) 02:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

The use of an apostrophe is the responsability of the editor and I respect it.
1. The question here was about typography: using a curved apostrophe.
a. The curved apostrophe is typographically correct and is used for printed material. But as I read in the page you pointed:
Although ubiquitous in typeset material, the typographic apostrophe ( ’ ) is rather difficult to enter on a computer, since it does not have its own key on a standard keyboard.
Until yesterday a user wanting to search for works like L'aura che'l verde Lauro (Luca Marenzio) or I' piango (Luca Marenzio) shouldn't have found them easily, even on the Marenzio['s] page, the creator of that pages having used a curly apostrophe in the title.
b. As our Wiki system rejects the curved apostrophe with the diacritics after Z in the alphabetic sorting, such titles weren't found where expected.
2. As you (and Carlos), I'm "trying not to leave too many redirects when moving pages". So I leaved the curly apostrophe without redirect, because the redirect became superfluous;
3. Perhaps do you imply that I should have searched for links to the old typography throughout all the database. Anyway, ninety percents of composer pages are automatized and such a change is therefore instantly reflected on them. I'm in favo[u]r of automatizing ALL of the front composer pages (not removing other lists but putting them just a click away). The ten percents of composer pages that are manually maintained should be maintained manually by those who don't want them to be automatized.
Claude (talk) 08:10, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

difficulty creating new score pages

Claude,

When I try entering a new score page I get this error message "There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or create this page". Am I doing something wrong? Also I now find I can log on in Microsoft Edge but not in FireFox. Can you help? Jgoodliffe (talk) 10:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan,
I'm not a specialist, but I guess you're not logged in, when you see that. Please, try to type an 's' after 'http' in the URL address bar above, or a complete 'https://' string before the page title, if you don't see anything before 'www.cpdl.org'. I hope this helps. Claude (talk) 12:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Claude,
Thanks for your help. The score pages mysteriously appeared overnight. In trying to get the system to work yesterday I am afraid I seem to have created 4 redundant music numbers - 697 to 700. Jgoodliffe (talk) 11:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
No problem, Jonathan. From time to time, we need such unused CPDL numbers, to split an existing edition or some other reason ;-) Claude (talk) 12:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

My User Page

Would you mind explaining to me why you have edited my user page? NicholasNotabene (talk) 15:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to CPDL.
All user pages here are so:
1. A talk page under the declared nickname
2. An editor page under your full name.
Feel free to fill your editor page.
All users may now talk to you on your talk page.
I hope you agree.
Kind Regards, Claude (talk) 15:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the reply. NicholasNotabene (talk) 16:20, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Anton Bruckner - Tantum ergo

Dear Claude,

There is apparently some confusions about Anton Bruckner's settings of the Pange lingua and Tantum ergo.

Bruckner composed two settings of the Pange lingua: WAB 31 and WAB 33 (phrygian, with Tantum ergo) and eight Tantum ergo: chronologically WAB 32 (wrongly issued by Grasberger as "Pange lingua, WAB 32), WAB 43, the four settings of WAB 41, WAB 42 and WAB 44.

You have wrongly reverted "Tantum ergo, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)" to "Tantum ergo, WAB 31 (Anton Bruckner)". I have reverted it.

There are currently two different pages on WAB 32: "Tantum ergo in D Major, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)" and "Tantum ergo, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)". These two pages should be merged.

Best regards, Meneerke bloem (talk) 15:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I've merged the most recent page content into the oldest, as usual here (to keep history). Claude (talk) 16:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Meneerke bloem (talk) 18:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

My common.js

Hi Claude, you have delete my user Javascript page, the reason was assumed spam/vandalism. This javascript page only affects my own useraccount and nobody else or anything else on this wiki. Why would I want to vandalize or spam my own user account? I just added a gadget which I use for my useraccounts on many other wikis, I am storing the code centralized in a wiki where I have admin rights. This is where the include-statement comes from, there is absolute no harm in it. If you do not want users create their own javascript page a bureaucrat can to change the wiki's central settings, Manuela (talk) 14:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Manuela,
Just after I removed the script (the reason had to be choosen in a short list, not quite appropriate, though), I wanted to restore it. A bug in the system didn't let me succeed in that. I then took advice by my fellow admin Max who mainly wrote: "I get the same error: I guess that there may be a bug or some special configuration to do when handling pages containing Javascript code.", "It seems this user registered in 2016, and only used our wiki to test wiki code probably used somewhere else. The Javascript code entered is a custom code used on another wiki " and "It's probably unharmful, however I'm not that happy that someone uses our wiki as if it were their test wiki...". Claude (talk) 14:35, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I am not using this wiki as testwiki, I have added some scores in 2016. I wanted to add more then, for some reason which I do not remember I did not continue, maybe because I started to create my own wikis, Manuela (talk) 20:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps that page could help you: User:Claude_T/DPL_queries/LY I suppose that scripts are allowed only by admins, here as on all other wikis. Claude (talk) 21:24, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the link, Claude. I could not figure out an easy way to find all Lilypond scores, and Lilypond code is displayed as text without syntax highlighting, I guess this were the reasons why I stopped editing her, greetings Manuela (talk) 08:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome, Manuela. Claude (talk) 08:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Why dost thou shoot (Wilbye)

Claude, for some reason, Capella produces a corrupt mxl file, with the bass missing. Seth spotted this and I tried reloading, but it didn't work. The same thing was true of the version you uploaded. I'll try playing around with the format, but I think the file needs deleting if it has errors. Hope you are surviving the boredom of Covid. At least, the number of contibutions stays high! Jamesgibb (talk) 08:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, Ok, feel free to remove link and file itself.
Yes, all well here: more time for site maintenance ;-) Claude (talk) 10:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

It occurred to me that it might be a problem with the multiple curved braces in the system, since I seem to recall that earlier unsolved problems involved my editions with multiple braces. So I produced a revised version without braces. However, when I uploaded the mxl file, deleting the previous one, and then downloaded the mxl file from the works page, it was the old version that appeared! Jamesgibb (talk) 10:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

I've seen that in the past. Machines on Internet don't resend a file if it has the same name on your disk, even if its content is different. The solution is to delete the previous version in the list. Using a different browser generally does the trick. Claude (talk) 11:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Right, I've changed the name of the mxl file before uploading and that seems to have solved the problem! Didn't need to change browsers. Do you still have a list of the my uploads where we had similar problem withe the mxl file?Jamesgibb (talk)

I think there is a problem with Capella when creating mxl files that have more than one curly brace. I've just uploaded a version of The Goslings (Bridge) and when I checked the file that has been uploaded, the stave descriptions were misplaced. So I'll adjust for that in the future.Jamesgibb (talk) 15:06, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

i don't retrieve the list of missing MXL files. I remember there were just a few. I opened the file mentioned above, under Finale, and it seems correct to me, including a (singing) Bass line. Claude (talk) 16:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Odes to Music

Claude

Is it worth having a specific category for "odes to music". These would include, for instance, Schubert's "An die musik" and Purcell's "Music for a while". There are quite a few of these on CPDL already and I am working on one by the composer Maurice Greene at the moment. Jgoodliffe (talk) 12:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I've no advice about the question. Please try the forums or another admin. Claude (talk) 13:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

New works remain in cache

Hi Claude, I'm rather new to CPDL, so I'm wondering why my last 4 new work contributions (since June 13) remain visible in the cache as well as in the normal list. I saw you did some small editing on my editions which is quite OK.

Hi, Wytze, on your composer page, I clicked on ‘Edit’, then on ‘Save’ and renewed the operation. BTW, three of your files remain orphans (they aren't linked from/to any 'Requiem' work page). Please create the corresponding work page soon. Claude (talk) 12:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Wytze. Thanks for your Requiem. Claude (talk) 14:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

New edition PDF cannot be opened

Hello, Claude. I've been reworking the Distler Jahrkreis. At No. 11 (Wie Schön leucht't) I cannot open the PDF that I recently uploaded. I tried to upload it again, but it was rejected as an identical file. Also, with No. 1 (O Heiland, reiss die Himmel auf), I cannot update the MXL file, also rejected as identical. If you have and suggestions, I'd be grateful for them.


Jim Pearson

Hi, Jim. 1. At No. 11, We can see, clicking on the white icon, just right of the PDF one (that leads to the file history: File:Distler11WieSchön.pdf) that you uploaded under the same name and extension different files that aren't PDF ones. I've just reverted your uploads to the last correct PDF version. 2. At No. 1, I've removed the MXL file to make way for you to upload and link it. To update further files, just let me know. Kind Regards, Claude.

new member help

Dear Claude, I am new to CPDL. I am a collector of old music and also a composer and arranger. I have transcribed into Finale 2014 many early works. I have just upgraded to the new finale 27 but have not updated my 2014 files as I wanted to make sure before I start that work that I am doing it the right way to make it available on CPDL or some other platform.

Among many other compositions, I have transcribed the following complete collections:

1. William Boyce: Cathedral Music Vol. 1-3 first edition. I have done this as sort of an Urtext leaving the original clefs, time signatures, etc. I have also typed in the figured bass as provided by Boyce

2. William Boyce / Vincent Novello: Novello's organ realization (1850s) of Boyce's Cathedral Music Vol. 1-3

3. Samuel Arnold: Cathedral Music Vol. 1-3 first edition. I have done this as sort of an Urtext leaving the original clefs, time signatures, etc. I have also typed in the figured bass as provided by Arnold

4. Samuel Arnold: Organ realization by Samuel Arnold of his Cathedral Music (about 1790)

5. Maurice Greene 40 Anthems first edition -- again as an Urtext

I have many more but these are a sample.


I want to know how to proceed and have the following questions. a. Is this the right platform for these old compositions? b. Finale 27 stores the files in a **.musx file. It also allows an export to: **.PDF, **MusicXML, and **MIDI files. Do I submit all 4 file types? c. I also do transcribe and translate old Spanish documents for the Cibola project at Berkeley U. of California. For those projects I take high resolution photos of the individual pages and provide them for the fellow researchers. Does CPDL also want that for these old documents? d. How do I proceed? Should I try to submit one of my transcriptions and then ask you to edit/check the work before I follow with the others?

Sorry to have so many questions but I am a neophyte and want to do this work in the best fashion.

Mike Wallen Mike Wallen (talk) 12:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Mike. Thanks for coming to us and willing to contribute. This is the right place, concerning all choral/vocal music.
As you can see, we already have a composer page for William Boyce and other composers you cited. So, the straight way to take is to check (on composer page) if the work has already a work page. If yes, just click on "Add new edition" (upper right part of the work page). If not, just click on "Add new work" (upper right part of the composer page).
AddWork form that opens has to be filled, including picking files to upload (there is a line for one of each file type: PDF, MXL (compressed MusicXML), and so on). I consider that these two formats are recommanded and are sufficient for most of our users, should they be conductors or singers.
Our general architecture is based on one independant work page for each composition, that is, containing all movements of the work and all editions contributed by all our editors. Work pages are automatically linked from/to their corresponding composer page.
You'll also see that we already have publication pages as Cathedral Music, Volume 1 (William_Boyce). A newly edited work page appears on its corresponding publication(s) when the 'Pub[lished]' field of the AddWork form is correctly filled. That can be adjusted later.
About [manuscript] facsimiles, particularly of instrumental music, please consider IMSLP procedures.
Receive our warm welcome in advance for your contributions. Don't hesitate to ask for more. Claude (talk) 13:57, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Missa Quand'io pens'al martire (Orlando di Lasso)

Hi Claude,

I've noticed you adding MXL files and, not yet having braved PhotoScore, wonder if I might ask you for Missa Quand'io pens'al martire (Orlando di Lasso) for a friend who wants a transposition? Regards, Richard Mix (talk) 02:04, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Richard. I don't add MXL files to PDFs under 'Personal' copyright, sorry. Claude (talk) 07:52, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Page title wrong / cannot move page

Hi Claude,

The page title for Weinachts Oratorium (Christmas Oratorio), BWV_248 (Johann Sebastian Bach) has an ugly spelling mistake "Weinachts Oratorium" (should be spelled "Weihnachtsoratorium" with an "h" and it is just one word). It seems I don't have the right to move the page, but maybe you can? Christof Chen

Thanks for spotting this. Done. By the way, you can sign your words with four tildes in a row. ;-) Claude (talk) 14:38, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Alleluia: Maria Dei Genitrix (Adam Rener)

Hi Claude, I noticed you moved this page to Alleluia: Maria Dei Genitrix (D-Ju MS 33) (Adam Rener). Disambiguation would be needed if he wrote other Alleluia: Maria Dei Genitrix that are found in different sources, but is that the case here? NG lists only the one. Richard Mix (talk) 08:44, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

I agree, Richard, so I went back to the previous page title. Claude T (talk) 10:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Repeated duplicate Add work forms submitted under your name.

Hi Claude. Since about an hour an a half ago, there have been four essentially duplicate Add work forms submitted for " Abschiedslied der Zugvögel, Op. 63 No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)", all supposedly by you, with manual wiki code submission option: yes. The "user/submitter" has used your name and two of the three email addresses that I have on file for you. The CPDL numbers thus used are 70040-70043. But none of these has actually been posted. I'm not sure what to do about this or or how we might block further malicious submissions like this. Anyway, I thought you need to know. -- Chucktalk Giffen 17:10, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Chuck. It's me. I try to create a new edition and I don't see anything appear on the corresponding work page nor in my mailbox(es), even in addscore@cpdl.org! Claude T (talk) 17:19, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi Claude. I just forwarded a copy of the CPDL 70040 submission. I hope you get it!! -- Chucktalk Giffen 17:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, Chuck, I've been able to add my edition at Abschiedslied der Zugvögel, Op. 63 No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn). Claude T (talk) 18:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Help with editing a page

Hello,

I uploaded a work Mia vita and made a duplicate page with the title Madrigal under Salamone Rossi. Is it possible to delete the Madrigal page?

Thank you, Jameshiggs (talk) 23:51, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Geoffrey (GeoffG (talk) has already removed the page. Thanks to him. Claude T (talk) 06:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Strip the willow

Apologies for creating two unrequired pages (The willow song (Christopher Shaw) and a composer page in my name. This was due to the recurring trouble of aggressive auto completion. I have raised a note on the forum: i'm afraid the the superfluous pages need to be deleted, not further incorporated.Cjshawcj (talk) 19:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Done ;-) Claude T (talk) 19:42, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Unhosted composers

Claude,

I want to upload a score by Daniel Purcell who is classified as an "unhosted" composer. The option to "add new work" is not available. How should I add the new score?

Thanks for your help

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 09:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan. I’ve removed the « unhosted » tag. Let me know if there’s another issue left. Claude T (talk) 10:59, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Claude, that seems tyo have solved the problem, thanks Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 11:57, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

MXL addition

Thanks… I was unaware I could add both MSCZ and MXL (the form didn’t give me that option), and this is my first upload here. Perhaps either the form could be amended or this could be mentioned in the docs?

mirabilos (talk) 17:18, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi... (Your first name here ;-). Thanks for your contributions to this site. You are right, only one line is given for a "Music notation file". I guess that programmers have thought that one would upload an .mscz file OR an MXL one [the MXL one being usable by quite all users, the MSCZ one only for MuseScore users]. So, feel free to add only the MXL file. If you want, you may also upload manually your MSCZ file, adding then a link to it, copied/pasted from one of the links in the edition.
By the way, I must say that all users may use only their nickname to download files, write anything,… until they create a (copyrighted) edition, whatever the copyright is, even a no-copyright one. All people may know who has the rights or has freed the copyright. So, if you agree, let me know what [First name-Name] should be used for editor. Your talk page will ever remain as "mirabilos". Claude T (talk) 17:43, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
I’d rather supply the MSCZ file as well because that’s the original and MusicXML export is… incomplete, I guess. But I can easily add both, I generate them already anyway.
Copyright law specifically permits pseudonymous publications (https://dejure.org/gesetze/UrhG/66.html and §10 as well), and we can even have them added in our ID cards in Europe, so it will remain as this. mirabilos (talk) 17:54, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Modification de fichier XML

Bonjour Claude,

J'ai apporté des corrections à A - 31 Psaume et Acclamation. Or, c'est vous qui aviez téléversé le fichier XML. Je ne peux donc pas le corriger.

Je change son nom. Vous pouvez donc supprimer le vôtre.

Bien à vous,

Rémi.

Excellent, merci, Rémi, de me l'avoir signalé. J'ai supprimé mon fichier obsolète. Claude T (talk) 07:24, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Du lenkest alles (Philippe Goibaud-Dubois)

Dear Mr. Tallet,

thank You for Your correction of Du lenkest alles (Philippe Goibaud-Dubois). May You correct a little mistake which i have done? The title must be "Du lenkest alle" (without s in alles). I cannot correct this myself methinks. Thank You and best regards Michael Hauber. Michael Hauber (talk) 14:27, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Done. ;-) Claude T (talk) 15:10, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Merci! MH

MXL File

Hi Claude, thank you for your advice. I prepare my music files with LilyPond, thus I don't have an MusicXML-Export. Sorry. Greetings Burkard (Temuta) Temuta

Ah, Ok then ;-) Claude T (talk) 07:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for your welcome, Claude!

I stumbled a bit by adding a descriptor to the Anonymous composer of second title that I submitted - sorry about that.

I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble to fix that, or easier to leave it as is: Anonymous (Medieval Organum, c. 1000-1100)

I should have left it as simply "Anonymous" and put the other notes in the editor remarks.

At any rate, thank you for your work and your hospitality.

John Jstromgren (talk) 23:57, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi, John, you're welcome! "Category:Anonymous compositions" includes already 1,645 works, so specifications, often about publication source, have already been included in composer name (between parentheses) by users.
Kind Regards, Claude. Claude T (talk) 07:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Psaume 23 by Wytze Oostenbrug

Dear Claude,

Something was going wrong with uploaden de PDF of my new entry titled Psaume 23. I tried to reverse to the version of 24 feb 2024 16:00 (the second loaded). Got however the comment, that that one is exectly the same as the last loaded 24 feb 2024 16:15, which certainly is not the case. For instance, I added my year of birth in the heading. A new upload from the version of 16:00 (the correct one) also failed. Could you try to restore the version of 24 feb 2024 16:00? Thanks in advance. Wytze Oostenbrug

Hi, Wytze. Done ;-) I've just had to click on the second line of the file history table that appears when you click on the white icon just right from the regarding PDF icon. You should have been able to do that yourself. Kind Regards. One can sign his words here typing four tildes in a row, producing the following time stamp and signature: Claude T (talk) 14:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Claude, That was just what I have done also, but it doesn't work with the version of 16:00, that is really the correct one. That is the second loaded version. Reloading that version gives the error, that it is the same as the current version, which is certainly is not (other size). Perhaps you can remove all loadings after the second (from 24 feb 2024 16:00) or otherwise remove all pdf, so I can add the right one from fresh.Wytzecpdl (talk) 16:27, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
hi Claude, things are OK now!! So thanks for the help.Wytzecpdl (talk) 19:28, 25 February 2024 (UTC)