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The section about redirects for alternate spellings should focus not just on composer names, but also the spelling of songs. E.g.: Descendi In Ortum Meum vs. Hortum. I'm thinking that no edit needs to be made to the composer page to indicate the alternate spelling, since once someone can eyeball the titles, they'll recognize the alternate spelling.
The section about redirects for alternate spellings should focus not just on composer names, but also the spelling of songs. E.g.: Descendi In Ortum Meum vs. Hortum. I'm thinking that no edit needs to be made to the composer page to indicate the alternate spelling, since once someone can eyeball the titles, they'll recognize the alternate spelling.
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I agree completely.  A redirect to a page whose title has a word with a common alternate spelling is entirely in order.  And you are right about it being unnecessary to list a work on a composer page together with its alternate spelling(s).
I agree completely.  A redirect to a page whose title has a word with a common alternate spelling is entirely appropriate.  And you are right about it being unnecessary to list a work on a composer page together with its alternate spellings.


Another point should perhaps be made here, and that is the difficulty of locating a page through a wiki search whose title has unusual diacritics or characters, such as:  þ, Æ, ß, ç, œ, ł, ʒ - or vowels with unexpected accents.  Fpr such cases it is entirely appropriate to list the title with an alternate spelling with standard English characters only at the top '''and also''' to use a sort key (with the standard English rendering) for categories placed on the page - so that the page will sort correctly in categories in which it is placed.
Another point should perhaps be made here, and that is the difficulty of locating a page through a wiki search whose title has unusual diacritics or characters, such as:  þ, Æ, ß, ç, œ, ł, ʒ - or vowels with unexpected accents.  For such cases it is entirely appropriate to list the title with an alternate spelling with standard English characters only at the top '''and also''' to use a sort key (with the standard English rendering) for categories placed on the page - so that the page will sort correctly in categories in which it is placed.
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The link, "Old ChoralWiki Translations" under "Adding Texts and translations is broken.

ns —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mjolnir (talk • contribs) on 10:43, 31 March 2006.

I've just removed the link and updated that section of the page. --Bobnotts talk 05:58, 1 December 2007 (PST)

add volunteer project: creating request pages for not found pieces?

  • Posted by: Vaarky 16:14, 2 August 2008 (PDT)
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Do we want to have a volunteer project to create score requests for the NOTFOUND-on-CPDL pieces at the St. Ann's page of translations? Or leave that up to individuals to request the pieces they want under their own login ID?

alternate spelling project should apply to score titles as well as composers

  • Posted by: Vaarky 17:38, 11 August 2008 (PDT)
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The section about redirects for alternate spellings should focus not just on composer names, but also the spelling of songs. E.g.: Descendi In Ortum Meum vs. Hortum. I'm thinking that no edit needs to be made to the composer page to indicate the alternate spelling, since once someone can eyeball the titles, they'll recognize the alternate spelling.

Reply by: Chucktalk Giffen♫ 22:33, 11 August 2008 (PDT)

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I agree completely. A redirect to a page whose title has a word with a common alternate spelling is entirely appropriate. And you are right about it being unnecessary to list a work on a composer page together with its alternate spellings.

Another point should perhaps be made here, and that is the difficulty of locating a page through a wiki search whose title has unusual diacritics or characters, such as: þ, Æ, ß, ç, œ, ł, ʒ - or vowels with unexpected accents. For such cases it is entirely appropriate to list the title with an alternate spelling with standard English characters only at the top and also to use a sort key (with the standard English rendering) for categories placed on the page - so that the page will sort correctly in categories in which it is placed.

Reply by: —Carlos mail_icon.gif 01:08, 12 August 2008 (PDT)

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Hi Vaarky. Your suggestion of creating redirects for alternative spelling is indeed valid and has been done before. The problem we've found is that redirects don't show up neither in the wiki Search nor on Google search (try with Adiuro vos filiae Jerusalem). So, the redirects end up being useless. Perhaps it would be more effective to add the alternative spellings inside the works page, after the "official" title, as we do with the "Aliases" field in composer pages.

Reply by: Vaarky 17:59, 11 August 2008 (PDT)

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It would be noted that Preview mode does not show redirects -- the person has to take it on faith and hit save.

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