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Would you be willing to transpose the Marenzio “Quia vidisti” down a m3?
Would you be willing to transpose the Marenzio “Quia vidisti” down a m3?


Thanks for posting the piece, and great work on the edition, too!
Thanks for posting the piece, and great work on the edition, too!   --[[user:Fgasper|Fgasper]] 03:16, 29 February 2012‎
: Will do!  I'll try and have it done within the week...  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] 12:32, 5 March 2012 (CST)
:: Here it is: [{{filepath:Marenzio_-_Quia_vidisti_me_(down).pdf}}].  Let me know how it goes if you end up performing it!  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] 22:36, 10 March 2012 (CST)
 
== Tip on tables ==
Hi Ross, I noticed you added a table to ''Gratias agimus tibi'' and would like to suggest you give template {{tl|top}} a try next time, it may simplify things for you. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:32, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
: Thank you!  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 16:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 
Hi Ross, yet another tip: the template {{tl|ss}} is perfect for what you intended (sorting composer names by surname in a table column). I have applied it to you table for you to see it in action, but if your intention was really to have the surnames coming first, then please feel free to revert my last edit, ok? Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 12:30, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
: Yes, that is exactly what I had wanted; thanks! [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 01:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 
== Diligam te Domine Hassler ==
 
Ross, I've moved the link text for this to Diligam te Domine. There's been a lot of discussion among the administrators as to what one does when a part of a work is used separately from the whole. An example is Tantum ergo, which (as you probably know) is part of the longer Pange lingua. Because many people will want to view settings specifically of Tantum ergo, it seems sensible to have separate text pages, but with clear links between them.
 
This is even more the case with the psalms. Many verses are used for graduals, offertories and so on and, unless the searcher knows that a text is part of a specific psalm, searching for settings becomes more complicated. A further complication is that the sorting facilities on the site take account of punctuation, so Diligam te, Domine will appear in a different place from Diligam te Domine.
 
Having said that, I have not yet identified why 6 different composers have set these particular verses! But it still seems sensible to gather them all together on one text page.<br>
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 19:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
:I had noticed lots of those text pages being created in the last few months; I think it's a good idea!  Thanks for the heads-up.  Best, [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 19:22, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 
==Grant us Thy peace (Mendelssohn)==
Thanks for inserting the useful link, Ross. I assumed there must have been a German original, (since the translation is not gripping poetry!) but the source book gave no indication of this. It's  workmanlike, rather than a great, bit of Mendelssohn, I think, but probably worth making more widely available.
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:29, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
:Glad to be of service.  You're right that it's not top-tier Mendelssohn, but it's a fine-enough piece, and I know of many church choirs (including my own) that would find your English edition very useful.  Thank you for your work in transcribing all those Scottish Church Anthem Book pieces.  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 01:16, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 
== Thomas Tomkins ==
 
I've been looking at gaps in the works of Tomkins (a compatriot of our patron David of Wales) at [[Musica Deo sacra (Thomas Tomkins)]] and have red-linked ''Christ rising & Thou art my King'', which I have almost ready for upload. Before I choose another project though I thought I'd better check in with other Tomkins editors! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 21:13, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
: Hi there!  I'm halfway through editing ''Thou art my King'', but I'll be glad to see your edition.  Also on my list are ''O Lord, how manifold are thy works'', ''O sing unto the Lord a new song'', and ''Rejoice, rejoice, sing and rejoice'', all of which I hope to finish by the end of the summer, if I can.  It's great to hear someone else is working on Tomkins!  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 14:10, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Christ rising again ==
 
Hello Ross! Someone found a couple of differences in your edition of Byrd's ''Christ rising again'', and made a request [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6965 at the forums]. Would you mind answering his/her question there? Thank you. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 16:22, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:Thank you for bringing this to my attention.  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 21:01, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== SortWorks ==
 
Ross, as someone who has contributed a lot to the site over the years, you may have noticed that we've recently been making significant changes to the composer pages. The principal aim of this is to automate, as far as possible, the process of adding new works to the composer pages. Another change is that we are removing the file links from the composer pages. The reason for this is simple; we have found by experience that, if people upload new version of files, they are automatically added to the works page, but need to be manually altered on the composer page. Most people forget to do this, so we end up with mismatched files.
 
One side benefit is that, in the past, people sometimes forgot to add their editions to the composer page and the new template picks up all those missing editions, as well as works where the composer is indicated solely as arranger. (My record so  far for any composer is 21 missing works, including, shamefully, one of my own editions!)  All this is still very much work in progress, particularly for the more complex composer pages, but I would be interested for any feedback you may have, whether positive or negative. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 
:I do appreciate that the process of adding and updating works has been simplified; certainly it's already made my life a bit easier.  It's a pity that some composer pages no longer list works that don't yet have editions, but this is a minor quibble.  (I suppose anyone looking for exhaustive works lists can consult Grove, anyway.  And upon looking around at other composer pages, it appears we can still add titles of unedited works, so it appears my point is moot!)  All things considered, I support the changes, and I thank you (and [[User:Claude Tallet|Claude]], and others) for taking the time to implement them.  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 18:20, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 
Thanks, Ross. I think, on the issue of not-yet-loaded works, I don't think this has ever been done automatically. It's a fairly random process at the moment. I think there's a good reason for it if, say, not all the parts of an opus have been uploaded. Also, if anyone is prepared to add all the works of a specific composer (or, at least, all the choral or vocal works). A disadvantage of SortWorks is that it will only produce a list of uploaded works, so the remainder will be left in a manually sorted list underneath.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 08:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 
== [[Polyhymnia caduceatrix et panegyrica (Michael Praetorius)]] ==
 
Hi Ross,
 
I see a few gaps in the middle columns of the [[Polyhymnia caduceatrix et panegyrica (Michael Praetorius)]] table, but am stumped about how they should be filled! Would you like to add an explanation to the page? Cheers, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:14, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
: Forgive my delay in tending to this!  I think the middle boxes without a number suggest that the piece is for only one choir (rather than opposing choirs of mixed voices, trebles, instruments, and so on).  I'll edit the page accordingly.  Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 22:22, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
== Tomkins' individual parts enquiry ==
 
Dear Ross,
 
I love your music editions online; they are fantastic and so useful to have, so thank you so much for them.
 
I was wondering if you happened to have separate parts for three verse anthems: 'O that the Salvation were given unto Israel'; 'God, which as upon this day' and 'Leave, O my soul' by T. Tomkins?  I will be doing this with voices and viols so wondered if I could have the parts in treble and bass clefs, as well as additional alto and tenor parts in alto clef?  I am happy to pay you for your time.
 
Best wishes,
 
Emma Murphy
::I'll be happy to help.  (It's particularly gratifying to hear that someone will be performing "Leave, O my soul", as I've never heard a performance of it, live or recorded, and I think it's a tremendous piece.)  Would you be so kind as to send me an email about this, so we can further discuss how I can help?  My address is: rossjallo at gmail dot com. [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 18:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 
== A spotless rose (Howells) - error in tenor part, m.33 ==
 
Hi Ross,
A user sent me a message about 3 wrong notes in m.33 of the tenor part - notes 3,4,5 should be B,A,B (as with the corresponding notes in m.3).  I've put up a ScoreError template on the work page.  If you upload a corrected score, jusst remove the template.  Many thanks! -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
: Ah, good catch.  I've uploaded a corrected score.  Thanks!  [[User:Ross Jallo|Ross Jallo]] ([[User talk:Ross Jallo|talk]]) 14:10, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:11, 8 December 2020

Welcome

Hi Ross, welcome to CPDL! Thank you for these great editions of Praetorius' works! Regards, —Carlos Email.gif 21:37, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

Thanks for your kind welcome! —Ross Jallo 16:11, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

Qui Paracletus diceris (Michael Praetorius)

Very nice work! I added Praetorius to the text-page Veni Creator Spiritus, but realized I dont know anything about text variants. Would you have a go at explaining MP's version? Richard Mix 07:19, 28 January 2012 (CST)

Thanks! Praetorius made many settings of different verses, for various voice combinations. (If I had regular access to Hymnodia Sionia, I would've transcribed them all; as it is I had to chose just a few that I had time to transcribe...) The way you've listed it on the text page is just how I would've done it, so no worries there. Hopefully someday I'll be able to do the rest. Ross Jallo 19:36, 13 February 2012 (CST)

Marenzio “Quia vidisti” - down a m3?

Hi Ross,

Would you be willing to transpose the Marenzio “Quia vidisti” down a m3?

Thanks for posting the piece, and great work on the edition, too! --Fgasper 03:16, 29 February 2012‎

Will do! I'll try and have it done within the week... Ross Jallo 12:32, 5 March 2012 (CST)
Here it is: [1]. Let me know how it goes if you end up performing it! Ross Jallo 22:36, 10 March 2012 (CST)

Tip on tables

Hi Ross, I noticed you added a table to Gratias agimus tibi and would like to suggest you give template {{top}} a try next time, it may simplify things for you. Best, —Carlos (talk) 23:32, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Ross Jallo (talk) 16:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ross, yet another tip: the template {{ss}} is perfect for what you intended (sorting composer names by surname in a table column). I have applied it to you table for you to see it in action, but if your intention was really to have the surnames coming first, then please feel free to revert my last edit, ok? Regards, —Carlos (talk) 12:30, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that is exactly what I had wanted; thanks! Ross Jallo (talk) 01:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Diligam te Domine Hassler

Ross, I've moved the link text for this to Diligam te Domine. There's been a lot of discussion among the administrators as to what one does when a part of a work is used separately from the whole. An example is Tantum ergo, which (as you probably know) is part of the longer Pange lingua. Because many people will want to view settings specifically of Tantum ergo, it seems sensible to have separate text pages, but with clear links between them.

This is even more the case with the psalms. Many verses are used for graduals, offertories and so on and, unless the searcher knows that a text is part of a specific psalm, searching for settings becomes more complicated. A further complication is that the sorting facilities on the site take account of punctuation, so Diligam te, Domine will appear in a different place from Diligam te Domine.

Having said that, I have not yet identified why 6 different composers have set these particular verses! But it still seems sensible to gather them all together on one text page.
Jamesgibb (talk) 19:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I had noticed lots of those text pages being created in the last few months; I think it's a good idea! Thanks for the heads-up. Best, Ross Jallo (talk) 19:22, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Grant us Thy peace (Mendelssohn)

Thanks for inserting the useful link, Ross. I assumed there must have been a German original, (since the translation is not gripping poetry!) but the source book gave no indication of this. It's workmanlike, rather than a great, bit of Mendelssohn, I think, but probably worth making more widely available. Jamesgibb (talk) 16:29, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Glad to be of service. You're right that it's not top-tier Mendelssohn, but it's a fine-enough piece, and I know of many church choirs (including my own) that would find your English edition very useful. Thank you for your work in transcribing all those Scottish Church Anthem Book pieces. Ross Jallo (talk) 01:16, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Thomas Tomkins

I've been looking at gaps in the works of Tomkins (a compatriot of our patron David of Wales) at Musica Deo sacra (Thomas Tomkins) and have red-linked Christ rising & Thou art my King, which I have almost ready for upload. Before I choose another project though I thought I'd better check in with other Tomkins editors! Richard Mix (talk) 21:13, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi there! I'm halfway through editing Thou art my King, but I'll be glad to see your edition. Also on my list are O Lord, how manifold are thy works, O sing unto the Lord a new song, and Rejoice, rejoice, sing and rejoice, all of which I hope to finish by the end of the summer, if I can. It's great to hear someone else is working on Tomkins! Ross Jallo (talk) 14:10, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Christ rising again

Hello Ross! Someone found a couple of differences in your edition of Byrd's Christ rising again, and made a request at the forums. Would you mind answering his/her question there? Thank you. —Carlos Email.gif 16:22, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Ross Jallo (talk) 21:01, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

SortWorks

Ross, as someone who has contributed a lot to the site over the years, you may have noticed that we've recently been making significant changes to the composer pages. The principal aim of this is to automate, as far as possible, the process of adding new works to the composer pages. Another change is that we are removing the file links from the composer pages. The reason for this is simple; we have found by experience that, if people upload new version of files, they are automatically added to the works page, but need to be manually altered on the composer page. Most people forget to do this, so we end up with mismatched files.

One side benefit is that, in the past, people sometimes forgot to add their editions to the composer page and the new template picks up all those missing editions, as well as works where the composer is indicated solely as arranger. (My record so far for any composer is 21 missing works, including, shamefully, one of my own editions!) All this is still very much work in progress, particularly for the more complex composer pages, but I would be interested for any feedback you may have, whether positive or negative. Jamesgibb (talk) 09:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

I do appreciate that the process of adding and updating works has been simplified; certainly it's already made my life a bit easier. It's a pity that some composer pages no longer list works that don't yet have editions, but this is a minor quibble. (I suppose anyone looking for exhaustive works lists can consult Grove, anyway. And upon looking around at other composer pages, it appears we can still add titles of unedited works, so it appears my point is moot!) All things considered, I support the changes, and I thank you (and Claude, and others) for taking the time to implement them. Ross Jallo (talk) 18:20, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Ross. I think, on the issue of not-yet-loaded works, I don't think this has ever been done automatically. It's a fairly random process at the moment. I think there's a good reason for it if, say, not all the parts of an opus have been uploaded. Also, if anyone is prepared to add all the works of a specific composer (or, at least, all the choral or vocal works). A disadvantage of SortWorks is that it will only produce a list of uploaded works, so the remainder will be left in a manually sorted list underneath.Jamesgibb (talk) 08:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Polyhymnia caduceatrix et panegyrica (Michael Praetorius)

Hi Ross,

I see a few gaps in the middle columns of the Polyhymnia caduceatrix et panegyrica (Michael Praetorius) table, but am stumped about how they should be filled! Would you like to add an explanation to the page? Cheers, Richard Mix (talk) 00:14, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Forgive my delay in tending to this! I think the middle boxes without a number suggest that the piece is for only one choir (rather than opposing choirs of mixed voices, trebles, instruments, and so on). I'll edit the page accordingly. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Ross Jallo (talk) 22:22, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Tomkins' individual parts enquiry

Dear Ross,

I love your music editions online; they are fantastic and so useful to have, so thank you so much for them.

I was wondering if you happened to have separate parts for three verse anthems: 'O that the Salvation were given unto Israel'; 'God, which as upon this day' and 'Leave, O my soul' by T. Tomkins? I will be doing this with voices and viols so wondered if I could have the parts in treble and bass clefs, as well as additional alto and tenor parts in alto clef? I am happy to pay you for your time.

Best wishes,

Emma Murphy

I'll be happy to help. (It's particularly gratifying to hear that someone will be performing "Leave, O my soul", as I've never heard a performance of it, live or recorded, and I think it's a tremendous piece.) Would you be so kind as to send me an email about this, so we can further discuss how I can help? My address is: rossjallo at gmail dot com. Ross Jallo (talk) 18:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

A spotless rose (Howells) - error in tenor part, m.33

Hi Ross, A user sent me a message about 3 wrong notes in m.33 of the tenor part - notes 3,4,5 should be B,A,B (as with the corresponding notes in m.3). I've put up a ScoreError template on the work page. If you upload a corrected score, jusst remove the template. Many thanks! -- Chucktalk Giffen 00:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Ah, good catch. I've uploaded a corrected score. Thanks! Ross Jallo (talk) 14:10, 8 December 2020 (UTC)