https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Musica_Deo_sacra_(Thomas_Tomkins)&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Musica Deo sacra (Thomas Tomkins) - Revision history2024-03-29T12:54:07ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.4https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Musica_Deo_sacra_(Thomas_Tomkins)&diff=564766&oldid=prevRoss Jallo at 22:10, 2 July 20152015-07-02T22:10:43Z<p></p>
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</table>Ross Jallohttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Musica_Deo_sacra_(Thomas_Tomkins)&diff=564664&oldid=prevRichard Mix: /* Ordering? */ r2015-07-01T02:51:08Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Ordering?: </span> r</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Using Rose's EECM edition I've done a little disambiguating (stumped by reference to a SSATB "Have mercy" though) but this page is hard to edit, in spite of being easy to read in the sortable table. If the order reflects the pieces appearance in the print, maybe a numbered column should be added on the right margin. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Using Rose's EECM edition I've done a little disambiguating (stumped by reference to a SSATB "Have mercy" though) but this page is hard to edit, in spite of being easy to read in the sortable table. If the order reflects the pieces appearance in the print, maybe a numbered column should be added on the right margin. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Ross Jallohttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Musica_Deo_sacra_(Thomas_Tomkins)&diff=564299&oldid=prevRichard Mix: one more data field, maybe?2015-06-27T22:45:40Z<p>one more data field, maybe?</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>==Ordering?==<br />
Using Rose's EECM edition I've done a little disambiguating (stumped by reference to a SSATB "Have mercy" though) but this page is hard to edit, in spite of being easy to read in the sortable table. If the order reflects the pieces appearance in the print, maybe a numbered column should be added on the right margin. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</div>Richard Mix