Talk:Lobt Gott, ihr Christen, alle gleich (Johann Herman)

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Composer/author names?

This site lists a Nikolaus Herman (c1480 - 1561) as the author (1554) of the text for this chorale and either Anonymous or the same Nikolaus Herman as the composer of the chorale (or its melody?)> Or is it possible that Johann Herman is the same as Johannes Hermann (or Herman)? So far, I've been unable to track down another source for this Johann Herman. – Chucktalk Giffen 02:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Wait! ... I just found Johann Nikolaus Herman (c1480 - 1561) given as the composer of this chorale in a program listing for "Christmas with the Renaissance Voices, 2005". It would seem that this is the full composer name? – Chucktalk Giffen 03:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Reply by: Vaarky 06:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


I asked Helene Whitson of the Bay Area Choral Archive. She provided some information from the Grove article on Nicolaus Herman (1500-1561), that makes it sound like this is the famous work by Nicolaus (and the listing does not indicate that Johann is part of his name):

"Luther's first biographer and ... close friend ... He wrote both text and music, but most melodies are used for several texts. ... Though never attaining the poetic force of [Luther] the latter's work, many have retained their place in the standard German Lutheran hymn repertory: above all 'Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gelich', .... In a number of melodies he employed elements of plainchant, sometimes alongside folk elements. Thus his well-known tune for 'Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gleich' is probably connected with the Christmas antiphon Hodie Christus natus est nobis..."

So I'm skeptical about Johann Nicolaus Hermann being the name. I think we should ask the contributor where they got the Johann from and what they know about the composer.