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Wait! ... I just found Johann Nikolaus Herman (c1480 - 1561) given as the composer of this chorale in a [http://www.renaissancevoices.org/repertoire.html program listing] for "Christmas with the Renaissance Voices, 2005". It would seem that this is the full composer name? – [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]] [[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC) | Wait! ... I just found Johann Nikolaus Herman (c1480 - 1561) given as the composer of this chorale in a [http://www.renaissancevoices.org/repertoire.html program listing] for "Christmas with the Renaissance Voices, 2005". It would seem that this is the full composer name? – [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]] [[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
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I asked Helene Whitson of the Bay Area Choral Archive. She provided some information from the Grove article on Nicolaus Herman (1500-1561), that makes it sound like this is the famous work by Nicolaus (and the listing does not indicate that Johann is part of his name): | |||
"Luther's first biographer and ... close friend ... He wrote both text and music, but most melodies are used | |||
for several texts. ... Though never attaining | |||
the poetic force of [Luther] the latter's work, many have retained their place in the | |||
standard German Lutheran hymn repertory: above all 'Lobt Gott, ihr Christen | |||
alle gelich', .... In a number of melodies he employed | |||
elements of plainchant, sometimes alongside folk elements. Thus his | |||
well-known tune for 'Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gleich' is probably | |||
connected with the Christmas antiphon Hodie Christus natus est nobis..." | |||
So I'm skeptical about Johann Nicolaus Hermann being the name. I think we should ask the contributor where they got the Johann from and what they know about the composer.}} | |||
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Composer/author names?
This site lists a Nikolaus Herman (c1480 - 1561) as the author (1554) of the text for this chorale and either Anonymous or the same Nikolaus Herman as the composer of the chorale (or its melody?)> Or is it possible that Johann Herman is the same as Johannes Hermann (or Herman)? So far, I've been unable to track down another source for this Johann Herman. – Chucktalk Giffen♫ 02:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Wait! ... I just found Johann Nikolaus Herman (c1480 - 1561) given as the composer of this chorale in a program listing for "Christmas with the Renaissance Voices, 2005". It would seem that this is the full composer name? – Chucktalk Giffen♫ 03:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
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