Category talk:Introits

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Introit vs Introits

Why change the title of the page from singular to plural?

Noel Stoutenburg 0852 GMT 19 February, 2007

I created this page because it seemed to me that it is now in line with other similar categories (ie. that it is plural rather than singular.) See Category:Masses, Category:Anthems and Category:Motets. Bobnotts 05:02, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Category Introitus???

The proposed disambiguation, Introit and Introitus, seems needlessly confusing. How about:

An introit (introitus) is the proper antiphon used to accompany the entrance procession at Mass. It usually takes the form antiphon-Psalm verse-Gloria Patri-antiphon but may be extended with extra psalm verses (with repetitions of the antiphon) for some long processions.
In some American Protestant traditions the name Introit is given to the Call to Worship, a short 'entering' into the spirit of prayer at the beginning of service. Amy Beach's miniatures fall into this category.

Richard Mix 21:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up, Richard. I created this category back in 2007 so that I could categorise a couple of introits I know are often used at the beginning of Church of England services. My experience of other religious uses of "introits" at that point was even less than my current appreciation, which is still limited. I think that your suggestion points to a much broader issue: how should we categorise works that may be used in different branches of Christianity, indeed, other religions? I know this is an issue that has been discussed many times in the same narrow context that you have suggested above, about categorisation of works in Liturgical music, Antiphons, Hymns, Motets categories and others. Before you posted your message, above, I had been thinking more broadly about the issue (honestly!) and I would like to suggest a larger scale discussion. I'd like it to be a consultation with all CPDL users and contributors, in which we consider the following questions (amongst others):
  1. How should we categorise sacred works on CPDL? Should we have a category for every liturgical use of a work in any religion?
  2. Where there is overlap, should we categorise the work in both the "Catholic" and "Anglican" categories?
    1. How should we distinguish the categorisation of Motets and Anthems?
  3. To what extent should we be considering contributors of vocal music which have their roots in other religions? Are some contributors currently put off because this site currently conatins mostly music used in Christian worship or is this just symptomatic of the position that music has in the Christian church?
Additionally, I think giving one user the responsibility to encourage and marshal discussion and come to a conclusion by a realistic deadline would hopefully make the discussion more meaningful. I would be willing to take this on if no-one else is interested in the responsibility. I'm not suggesting that I have all the answers but I think I can commit enough time to the project to get to a decision, even if it isn't perfect. This is all a bit off the top of my head at the moment but I thought I'd raise this rather than not at all. --Bobnotts talk 06:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
By all means! Were you thinking of the CPDL forums, or (maybe better) the parent Category talk:Sacred music?
I withdraw my geographical reference above; Wood, Wesley et al should have tipped me off right away... Richard Mix 09:35, 8 June 2010 (UTC)