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New edition not showing up / thanks for the redirect

Hi Claude, thanks for the redirect on my user page (and for bumping my edition of As Vesta was to the top of the page for chronological ordering--I'll be sure to do that next time).

I see my new edition listed when I view As Vesta was while signed in, but not otherwise. Is this normal? Am I missing something?

Thanks!
Maia.mcc (talk) 04:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome, Maïa! Recent changes are seen only when connected (logged in). But after a few hours, perhaps a day or so, they remain seeable by anybody.
By the way, we use to add, as a source file, an MXL (compressed musicXML) file with each edition. The reason for that is to be more user-friendly for the users who don't have the same notation software as the editor. If they have a recent software, they can open such file, to adapt the pitch to their choir abilities, to make rehearsal files, etc. You may add any file to your edition clicking on 'Upload a file' in the left pane of any CPDL page, under 'Tools'. You'll also, next time, be able to add an MXL file in lieu of the Sibelius one through the AddWork form. Claude (talk) 06:45, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Michael Praetorius - Quem pastores laudavere a 4

Hi Claude,

there is an existing page of Quem pastores laudavere a 4 (Michael Praetorius), which first edition claims to be from Musae Sioniae, fünffter Theil (Michael Praetorius), but the page is not linked to this publication. The two other publications on this page are similar but different, and all three are not any version from "Musae Sioniae V". (In "Musae Sioniae" the numbers 88, 89 and 90 are "Quem pastores a 4", but with different extras).

So I added a second page Quem pastores laudavere a 4 with children (Michael Praetorius), which I linked to "Musae Sioniae V, No 88".

If I find time I will add No. 89 from the autograph, put it to Quem pastores laudavere a 4 (Michael Praetorius) and link it to "Musae Sioniae V, No. 89", because it's the most similar source for the existing three editions. User:Volker Seibt (talk) 13:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits. Claude (talk) 14:03, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Appreciation

Thank you for the warm welcome, you are very kind! I am glad to be part of this amazing community. I am grateful to have this once in a lifetime opportunity to work with you and to meet others. It is a pleasure and a privilege for me to be here. I owe you my life! --Music4Ever (talk) 21:35, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to ask, if any question. Claude (talk) 06:26, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Anytime! --Music4Ever (talk) 06:42, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Samuel Babcock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_G._Babcock There is no person named Samuel Babcock that is a composer. This Wikipedia source links to a bishop named Samuel G. Babcock. This page also has the wrong birth and death dates. Please delete this. This person is not a composer, he was a bishop. Not relevant to this wiki. --Music4Ever (talk) 17:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia version of this guy as a bishop, not a composer

Samuel Gavitt Babcock (1851–1938) was an American bishop in the Protestant Episcopal Church. He graduated from the Episcopal Theological School at Cambridge, Massachusetts, in 1891. After holding pastorates in Rhode Island and Massachusetts he was archdeacon of Massachusetts from 1903 to 1913, when he was elected suffragan bishop of Massachusetts. --Music4Ever (talk) 17:32, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm knowing nothing about him. Please use the forums before any deletion. Claude (talk) 17:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Please show me a link to the forums. --Music4Ever (talk) 17:38, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
In the left pane of any CPDL page, including this one ;-) Claude (talk) 17:40, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

2020

Happy new year to you, best wishes for 2020! --Music4Ever (talk) 20:43, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

MXL file

Hi Claude. You added an MXL file to my page https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Heart_of_Spring_(Mark_Chapman) I have updated the MuseScore file but don't have access to update this one. Thanks. MarkChapman (talk) 04:12, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Mark. Thank you for your contributions. I've updated the MXL file. Next time, feel free to add your own MXL file and warn me to remove mine ;-) Claude (talk) 07:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! MarkChapman (talk) 07:30, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks again for the new MXL file. There is apparently a workaround to get MusicXML out of Lilypond, but I haven't mastered it yet.MarkChapman (talk) 11:47, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

At first the mountain rill (George Alexander MacFarren)

Thanks for adding the text, Claude. Must have got distracted after uploading the files.

Jamesgibb (talk) 12:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome, James! Claude (talk) 12:31, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Qui habitat by Ortells

Claude, I entered the details of this work today but after doing this I did not get the usual email with the code to use in creating the new work. Did I do something wrong? Jgoodliffe (talk) 17:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan, Many thanks for all your contributions! For what I can see, you uploaded three files concerning that work, but I don't see that you filled the AddWork form as before, for the other works. Please go to the Ortell's composer page, click on 'Add new work' on the upper right part. Fill the AddWork form, but no need to upload the files, you did it already. By the way, adding an MXL (compressed XML) file allows more users to use your edition(s), not only those who have Sibelius. Feel free to upload the MXL file in lieu of the Sibelius one, if you don't want to upload both files. Kind Regards, Claude (talk) 21:37, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Claude. Thanks for this. My version of Sibelius (5.2.5) can only import, not export XML files. The cost of upgrading the software, which in all other respects does everything I want, is disproportionate. However, I will keep an eye out for a possible solution Jgoodliffe (talk) 09:51, 3 March 2020 (UTC)


Thanks...

belatedly, for the welcome, and for fixing my newbie's capitalization error. Wilus (talk) 09:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome, William ;-) Claude (talk) 11:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Valls Magnificat a 8 (incomplete) #13405

Claude

Could you please rename this work "Magnificat a 8 tertii toni". I have discovered a complete version of it which will shortly be uploaded. Merci bien!

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan,
Richard Mix (talk) just did it. Thanks to him.
Claude (talk) 04:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Claude

HI, Claude. Thank you for your welcome and for reviewing my page! I'm new to CPDL as a contributor, so I hope I don't make too many mistakes (for example, is really this the place for writing to you?). Yesterday I added some more information on my page, but I can see them only if I'm logged in: Is there something wrong? Have a nice day! Paolo ZoccaratoPaolo Zoccarato (talk) 06:06, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Paolo. You're welcome. You did it all right. It's normal: When one is logged, he reaches the main server, www.cpdl.org, which shows the changes quite instantly. When not logged in, you go to ww1, ww2 or ww3; they show the changes hours after. Kind Regards, Claude (talk) 09:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Request of score removal

Hi Claude, I would ask you to remove the music files of Fermarono i cieli (Alfonso Maria de' Liguori) because I am publishing my arrangement with Carus Verlag. You can obviously leave the page and the description. Thank you, Fraspi (talk) 07:59, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Done. Claude (talk) 11:39, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Would it be possible removing it from the cache <File:Fermarono.pdf> too? Fraspi (talk) 09:59, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Done. Claude (talk) 11:11, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Settings of Benedictus by Juan del Vado

Claude,

I have 4 settings of the Benedictus by this composer extracted from his masses. Is it OK to put them all on one page (with separate score numbers) or should they each be on a separate page?

Thanks

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 09:24, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan. Yes, all on one page, in my opinion. Claude (talk) 09:39, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

As ever I saw

Claude

As well as the Warlock setting of this title Mick and I have produced a reconstructed version of the original music. See http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/As_ever_I_saw_(Anonymous) . For some reason this does not appear on the list of recent works. Can you correct this?

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 06:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan,
I've restored
[[Category:Sheet music]]
line that was missing at the end of the page (perhaps removed accidentally when you pasted the 'Text and translations' section.
Please restore the accurate [[Category:<Era> music]] just below.
Claude (talk) 06:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Done Jgoodliffe (talk) 13:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Dido and Aeneas by Purcell

Claude, I see you have effectively managed this work on CPDL. Would you object if I were to edit it just to highlight that it is not "complete", flagging missing movements (such as the prologue) and noting that those movements have been reconctructed (e.g. by Thurston Dart) although they are in copyright so cannot appear on CPDL.

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 07:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

No problem, Jonathan, please proceed. Claude (talk) 10:23, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

…without leaving redirect

Hi Claude, I know you're mindful of clutter, and I've taken to trying not to leave too many redirects when moving pages myself. "What links here" is useful though to avoid redlinks on text- and other hand-maintained pages. I'd be happy to hear what you think about Help talk:Style conventions#Apostophe's though! Richard Mix (talk) 02:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

The use of an apostrophe is the responsability of the editor and I respect it.
1. The question here was about typography: using a curved apostrophe.
a. The curved apostrophe is typographically correct and is used for printed material. But as I read in the page you pointed:
Although ubiquitous in typeset material, the typographic apostrophe ( ’ ) is rather difficult to enter on a computer, since it does not have its own key on a standard keyboard.
Until yesterday a user wanting to search for works like L'aura che'l verde Lauro (Luca Marenzio) or I' piango (Luca Marenzio) shouldn't have found them easily, even on the Marenzio['s] page, the creator of that pages having used a curly apostrophe in the title.
b. As our Wiki system rejects the curved apostrophe with the diacritics after Z in the alphabetic sorting, such titles weren't found where expected.
2. As you (and Carlos), I'm "trying not to leave too many redirects when moving pages". So I leaved the curly apostrophe without redirect, because the redirect became superfluous;
3. Perhaps do you imply that I should have searched for links to the old typography throughout all the database. Anyway, ninety percents of composer pages are automatized and such a change is therefore instantly reflected on them. I'm in favo[u]r of automatizing ALL of the front composer pages (not removing other lists but putting them just a click away). The ten percents of composer pages that are manually maintained should be maintained manually by those who don't want them to be automatized.
Claude (talk) 08:10, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

difficulty creating new score pages

Claude,

When I try entering a new score page I get this error message "There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or create this page". Am I doing something wrong? Also I now find I can log on in Microsoft Edge but not in FireFox. Can you help? Jgoodliffe (talk) 10:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jonathan,
I'm not a specialist, but I guess you're not logged in, when you see that. Please, try to type an 's' after 'http' in the URL address bar above, or a complete 'https://' string before the page title, if you don't see anything before 'www.cpdl.org'. I hope this helps. Claude (talk) 12:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Claude,
Thanks for your help. The score pages mysteriously appeared overnight. In trying to get the system to work yesterday I am afraid I seem to have created 4 redundant music numbers - 697 to 700. Jgoodliffe (talk) 11:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
No problem, Jonathan. From time to time, we need such unused CPDL numbers, to split an existing edition or some other reason ;-) Claude (talk) 12:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

My User Page

Would you mind explaining to me why you have edited my user page? NicholasNotabene (talk) 15:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to CPDL.
All user pages here are so:
1. A talk page under the declared nickname
2. An editor page under your full name.
Feel free to fill your editor page.
All users may now talk to you on your talk page.
I hope you agree.
Kind Regards, Claude (talk) 15:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the reply. NicholasNotabene (talk) 16:20, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Anton Bruckner - Tantum ergo

Dear Claude,

There is apparently some confusions about Anton Bruckner's settings of the Pange lingua and Tantum ergo.

Bruckner composed two settings of the Pange lingua: WAB 31 and WAB 33 (phrygian, with Tantum ergo) and eight Tantum ergo: chronologically WAB 32 (wrongly issued by Grasberger as "Pange lingua, WAB 32), WAB 43, the four settings of WAB 41, WAB 42 and WAB 44.

You have wrongly reverted "Tantum ergo, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)" to "Tantum ergo, WAB 31 (Anton Bruckner)". I have reverted it.

There are currently two different pages on WAB 32: "Tantum ergo in D Major, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)" and "Tantum ergo, WAB 32 (Anton Bruckner)". These two pages should be merged.

Best regards, Meneerke bloem (talk) 15:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I've merged the most recent page content into the oldest, as usual here (to keep history). Claude (talk) 16:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Meneerke bloem (talk) 18:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

My common.js

Hi Claude, you have delete my user Javascript page, the reason was assumed spam/vandalism. This javascript page only affects my own useraccount and nobody else or anything else on this wiki. Why would I want to vandalize or spam my own user account? I just added a gadget which I use for my useraccounts on many other wikis, I am storing the code centralized in a wiki where I have admin rights. This is where the include-statement comes from, there is absolute no harm in it. If you do not want users create their own javascript page a bureaucrat can to change the wiki's central settings, Manuela (talk) 14:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Manuela,
Just after I removed the script (the reason had to be choosen in a short list, not quite appropriate, though), I wanted to restore it. A bug in the system didn't let me succeed in that. I then took advice by my fellow admin Max who mainly wrote: "I get the same error: I guess that there may be a bug or some special configuration to do when handling pages containing Javascript code.", "It seems this user registered in 2016, and only used our wiki to test wiki code probably used somewhere else. The Javascript code entered is a custom code used on another wiki " and "It's probably unharmful, however I'm not that happy that someone uses our wiki as if it were their test wiki...". Claude (talk) 14:35, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I am not using this wiki as testwiki, I have added some scores in 2016. I wanted to add more then, for some reason which I do not remember I did not continue, maybe because I started to create my own wikis, Manuela (talk) 20:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps that page could help you: User:Claude_T/DPL_queries/LY I suppose that scripts are allowed only by admins, here as on all other wikis. Claude (talk) 21:24, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the link, Claude. I could not figure out an easy way to find all Lilypond scores, and Lilypond code is displayed as text without syntax highlighting, I guess this were the reasons why I stopped editing her, greetings Manuela (talk) 08:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome, Manuela. Claude (talk) 08:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Why dost thou shoot (Wilbye)

Claude, for some reason, Capella produces a corrupt mxl file, with the bass missing. Seth spotted this and I tried reloading, but it didn't work. The same thing was true of the version you uploaded. I'll try playing around with the format, but I think the file needs deleting if it has errors. Hope you are surviving the boredom of Covid. At least, the number of contibutions stays high! Jamesgibb (talk) 08:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, Ok, feel free to remove link and file itself.
Yes, all well here: more time for site maintenance ;-) Claude (talk) 10:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

It occurred to me that it might be a problem with the multiple curved braces in the system, since I seem to recall that earlier unsolved problems involved my editions with multiple braces. So I produced a revised version without braces. However, when I uploaded the mxl file, deleting the previous one, and then downloaded the mxl file from the works page, it was the old version that appeared! Jamesgibb (talk) 10:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

I've seen that in the past. Machines on Internet don't resend a file if it has the same name on your disk, even if its content is different. The solution is to delete the previous version in the list. Using a different browser generally does the trick. Claude (talk) 11:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Right, I've changed the name of the mxl file before uploading and that seems to have solved the problem! Didn't need to change browsers. Do you still have a list of the my uploads where we had similar problem withe the mxl file?Jamesgibb (talk)

I think there is a problem with Capella when creating mxl files that have more than one curly brace. I've just uploaded a version of The Goslings (Bridge) and when I checked the file that has been uploaded, the stave descriptions were misplaced. So I'll adjust for that in the future.Jamesgibb (talk) 15:06, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

i don't retrieve the list of missing MXL files. I remember there were just a few. I opened the file mentioned above, under Finale, and it seems correct to me, including a (singing) Bass line. Claude (talk) 16:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Odes to Music

Claude

Is it worth having a specific category for "odes to music". These would include, for instance, Schubert's "An die musik" and Purcell's "Music for a while". There are quite a few of these on CPDL already and I am working on one by the composer Maurice Greene at the moment. Jgoodliffe (talk) 12:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I've no advice about the question. Please try the forums or another admin. Claude (talk) 13:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)