Template talk:Recent additions

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I added "The alphabetized list has been moved to subpages which can be accessed from the "edit" link on this page." to Anonymous, after becoming slightly confused at not being able to carry out the move in a single edit. Is this a single case or would a Template:Recent additions2 be of use?

Wonder what the next dab of celorum/caelorum/coelorum might be, btw! Richard Mix (talk) 22:07, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

"Add new edition" tab

There is a tab at the top of work-pages that says "Add new edition" and directs one to the AddWorkForm. I was startled to see the work-page automatically duplicated on the composer page Michael Wise: Can this feature (or maybe the tab) be tweaked to avoid the redundancy? Richard Mix (talk) 10:06, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Richard. Initially, this worked differently: when a works page already existed, Max's script would search for the work's entry on the composer page and strip all file (or external) links from the line. This worked fine most of the time, but on rare occasions it would produce scrambled results. Because of that, Max decided to leave the original entry as is (with all the file links untouched) and duplicate the entry at the top of the section, so that someone may analyze each new addition and make the necessary modifications. Maybe we can think of a compromise solution... Any ideas? —Carlos (talk) 03:34, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

If I understand, that script kicked in after the AddWorkForm was run, yes? (Did it have to do with another discussion about automating composer pages along the lines of the textpage TextAutoList?) Am I right in recalling the Add new edition tab on workpages is a recent feature? Would it then make sense to intervene before sending uploaders to the AddWorkForm? Richard Mix (talk) 02:06, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, all the scripts are executed from inside the new AddNewWork form implemented by Max. But as far as I know, it's not directly related to the discussion about automating composer pages, although such automation would simplify the whole submission process a lot (see discussion here). Yes, the Add new edition tab on work pages is fairly recent (around 1 year, maybe?), although the discussion that led to its implementation started more than two years ago (see here). What exactly do you mean by "intervene"? Not adding {{Recent additions}} to composer pages if they are already automated, is that it? —Carlos (talk) 15:57, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

What I have in mind: not adding {{Recent additions}} to composer pages if the new edition isn't the first one of the work (so the work line yet exists on the composer page and the ~'recent addition' process creates a duplicated line) Claude (talk) 16:55, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Actually I was wondering if there's any way for AddWorkForm to know if it is being accessed from the tab on an existing work page. If not, Claude's strategy seems equally good. Richard Mix (talk) 00:11, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Ah, and also, dont add {{Recent additions}} when 'SortWorks' is present! Claude (talk) 11:39, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Another point to consider is that template {{Legend}} is no longer necessary on composer pages that have file links removed (either by hand or via #SortWorks). We'll eventually have to remove it from these pages, but if I'm not mistaken, Max uses this template as a placeholder to post new submissions right below it. —Carlos (talk) 14:51, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Work pages exist, which have no identical entry on the corresponding composer page. Sometimes this is due to mistakes when the manual process is used (i.e., the contributor forgot to copy-and-paste the work entry on the composer page, or the work entry was later removed by somebody, either intentionally for some reasons or by mistake), sometimes it's because the work is listed with another name for various reasons (work available in multiple languages, spelling/diacritics differences, use of the incipit in lieu of the work page title, works that are also part of collections or movements of a larger work, and so on). When the title in the composer page is different from the work page title, the link between the twos is also established in multiple ways (e.g., using redirect pages, or piped syntax, ...). The lack of standard rules followed in these cases makes automation virtually impossible, so I decided to add the {{Recent additions}} template in all cases, and then have the contributor or other users checking the situation and finding the best way to finalize the submission in the given context. All pages using the {{Recent additions}} template are listed under the Pages with recent additions category, so it is easy to identify those that may still need to be finalized. It should be also noted that the presence of #SortWorks is not sufficient to determine that a composer page has been completely automated, as some "not automated" work entries may still be present (for example, when sacred works are automated while secular works aren't; or extra works are listed for collections or works having debatable composer attribution; etc.). So, again, the lack of standardization impairs automation, and human supervision is required. Any suggestions that are compatible with this scenario are welcome, though! Max a.k.a. Choralia (talk) 11:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)