Talk:St. Denio (R. Mills)

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Quavers in tune?

In hymnbooks this tune is usually said to be "Welsh traditional" or "Welsh melody", occasionally with a reference to a John Roberts (1839) collection. No suggestion that JR was the composer.

Sad that 40 years of choir-mastering have been undermined by the quavers in the top part given in this version. I can find no version in any hymn book with them (though indeed they are often sung - wrongly in my view).

Alan Knight —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marghek (talkcontribs) on 15:08, 6 April 2008.

I'll second that. I've never sung the quavers, just straight crotchets... Incidentally, I've just removed the text (apparently associated with this tune) because it's not public domain. --Bobnotts talk 09:45, 6 April 2008 (PDT)

Copyright ?


The words "Immortal, invisible" are by Walter Chalmers Smith who died in 1908. How are those words copyright 100 years on?

Or do you sing some modern words (shudder).

Alan Knight

Hi Alan. The text John included were the hymn "The Gladness, the triumph of Easter we sing" by James Hayes, not the most often used text by Chalmers.
John, don't despair, it happens to all of us. In my case, fortunately, I was aware of text copyright issues when I composed my three settings of Old hundredth and used a different text (O love, how deep) when I published them as a hymn. The original intended text was Lord, make us servants of your peace by James Quinn (a paraphrase of the Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi). -- Chucktalk Giffen 22:34, 7 April 2008 (PDT)