Talk:Antonio Cifra

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Very clever!!!!!!!!! Wverkaik (talk) 05:18, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Publication dates.

The publication of Madrigali a cinque voci Libro terzo is set at 1615, which is the date given by the printed partbooks surviving. This same source tells us "Novamente composto, et dato in luce". This means that there must have been an edition earlier. Could it be that the first edition has been around 1609? The partbooks do not mention an opus number, and the first editon then could be placed one year later than de secondo libro. This would also solve the number of works before the first opus number, which is the seventh (Psalmi septem). This work opus 7 is placed at the year 1609. My source gives a date of 1619, while it does not give reference to an earlier edition. Can it be that the opus number (7) was given in 1609, but the first printed edition was indeed in 1619??? Wverkaik (talk) 11:01, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

I think "novamente composto" means "newly composed", ie, that there is not an earlier edition. I think the reason there are only five known works before Opus 7 might be that one has been lost. I also think the reason the third book of madrigals a5 doesn't have an opus number is that it was printed by Vincenti in Venice, while most of the books with opus numbers were printed in Rome. I think at that time not all printers had yet adopted the opus number system. Regarding the date of Opus 7, RISM lists a first edition by Robletti in 1609 (C 2184), a second edition by Vincenti in 1610 (C 2185), and a third edition by Soldi in 1619 (C 2186). A facsimile of this last is available at the British Library. GeoffG (talk) 15:54, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. Wverkaik (talk) 04:04, 22 June 2021 (UTC)