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<div></div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Encore_un_coup_(Bon_Voisin)&diff=609036Encore un coup (Bon Voisin)2016-04-12T18:22:00Z<p>Tulipo petressian: </p>
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*{{PostedDate|2016-01-08}} {{CPDLno|38110}} [{{filepath:Bon_voisin_encore_un_coup.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bon_voisin_encore_un_coup.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bon_voisin_encore_un_coup.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Bon_voisin_encore_un_coup.mp3}} {{mp3}}]<br />
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:'''Edition notes:''' from "60 Chansons zu vier Stimmen aus der ersten Haelfte des 16. Jahrhunderts von franzoesischen und niederlaendischen Meistern", edited by R.Eitner, 1899, as found on IMSLP.<br />
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'''Title:''' ''Encore un coup''<br><br />
{{Composer|Bon Voisin}}<br />
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{{Voicing|4|SATB}}<br><br />
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'''Description:''' Drinking song by obscure renaissance composer Bon Voisin...<br />
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Encore un coup, un petit coup,<br />
encore un coup me veux-tu refuser<br />
de ta merci, sans de pitié user <br />
vers mon las cœur, qui tant t’aime sans feindre<br />
et, si je mens, la mort me vienne atteindre<br />
tout à présent, sans me laisser muser !}}<br />
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[[Category:Renaissance music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:Bon_voisin_encore_un_coup.capx&diff=609031File:Bon voisin encore un coup.capx2016-04-12T18:18:07Z<p>Tulipo petressian: </p>
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<div>===Text v. translation===<br />
Thanks for all the editions you've been adding to the site recently. One small point. While it is very helpful to add English translations, it is better if you use the template '''<nowiki>{{Translation|English}}</nowiki>''', rather than '''<nowiki>{{Text|English}}</nowiki>'''. That avoids editions which are not actually in English being included in the sorted list of English texts. Of course, if the edition has (say) both Latin and English underlay, then <nowiki>{{Text|English}}</nowiki> is appropriate.<br />
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Incidentally, your country of origin as shown as Oblivia. I cannot remember where that is! [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 18:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: point taken. memory of oblivia: the important thing is to have known once; as is, in joyous death, to have lived before...Tulipo Petressian 12:05, 26 February 2016 (UTC)</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ich_habe_genug,_BWV_82_(Johann_Sebastian_Bach)&diff=593942Ich habe genug, BWV 82 (Johann Sebastian Bach)2016-01-30T04:15:24Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Original text and translations */</p>
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:'''Edition notes:''' from the cantata "Ich habe genug", BWV 82-5, piano reduction.<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)''<br><br />
{{Composer|Johann Sebastian Bach}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Cantatas}}<br />
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{{Text|German|<br />
Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod,<br />
Ach, haett' er sich schon eingefunden.<br />
Da entkomm ich aller Not,<br />
Die mich noch auf der Welt gebunden.}}<br />
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{{Text|English|<br />
All joyous I, this day to die,<br />
ah, tarry not, death, and find me.<br />
For with thee would I now go,<br />
leaving this world of woe behind me.}}<br />
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[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Johann_Sebastian_Bach&diff=593941Johann Sebastian Bach2016-01-30T00:58:16Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* List of choral works */</p>
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[[Image:Bach,JS.jpg|thumb|J.S. Bach as painted by Gottlieb Haussmann (circa 1747).]]<br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 21 March 1685<br />
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'''Died:''' 28 July 1750<br />
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'''Biography'''<br />
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Johann Sebastian Bach was a prolific German composer and organist whose sacred and secular works for choir, orchestra, and solo instruments drew together the strands of the Baroque period and brought it to its ultimate maturity. Although he introduced no new forms, he enriched the prevailing German style with a robust contrapuntal technique, a control of harmonic and motivic organization from the smallest to the largest scales, and the adaptation of rhythms and textures from abroad, particularly Italy and France.<br />
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While Bach's fame as an organist was great during his lifetime, he was not particularly well-known as a composer. His adherence to Baroque forms and contrapuntal style was considered "old-fashioned" by his contemporaries, especially late in his career when the musical fashion tended towards Rococo and later Classical styles. A revival of interest and performances of his music began early in the 19th century, and he is now widely considered to be one of the greatest composers in the Western tradition.<br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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* Bach works published at CPDL sorted alphabetically by title, see {{CiteCat|Johann Sebastian Bach compositions}}<br />
* Bach Cantatas sorted by BWV number, see [[Johann Sebastian Bach - list of cantatas]]<br />
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===Cantatas (BWV1-BWV 224 and BWV 249)===<br />
* {{Bach|2|Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh darein|post}} &ndash; ''chorale only''<br />
** Chorale - Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh darein &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|3|Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid|post}} &ndash; ''complete, full score, separate movements''<br />
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* {{Bach|26|Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig|post}} &ndash; ''chorale only''<br />
** Chorale - Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach9.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach9.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|131|Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir|post}}, complete. ( [http://jennings.comule.com {{net}}] )<br />
** Orchestral parts: {{LLinkW|bwv131-0.pdf||bwv131-0.zip|Finale 2000}}<br />
** No. 4: Tenor aria with alto chorale, ''Meine Seele wartet''. {{LLinkW|bwv-131d.pdf|bwv-131d.mid|bwv-131d.zip|Encore}}<br />
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* {{Bach|38|Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir|post}} &ndash; ''Several editions available''.<br />
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* {{Bach|4|Christ lag in Todesbanden|post}} &ndash; ''Several editions available''<br />
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* {{Bach|7|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam|post}} &ndash; ''movements 1 & 7 available''<br />
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* {{Bach|121|Christum wir sollen loben schon|post}}<br />
** No. 6: Chorale - Lob Ehr' und Preis sei Gott &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|112|Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt|post}}<br />
** No. 1: Der Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt. {{LLinkW|bwv-112a.pdf|bwv-112a.mid}}<br />
** No. 5: Gutes und die Barmherzigkeit folgen mir nach {{LLinkW|bwv-112e.pdf|bwv-112e.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|75|Die Elenden sollen essen|post}}<br />
** No. 14: Chorus - Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/cantata/bach/BWV_75/ {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Erfreut euch, ihr Herzen, BWV 66}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV066_Choro.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV066_Coro.ly}} {{ly}}] ) &ndash; ''Choir only''<br />
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* {{Bach|172|Erschallet, ihr Lieder|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral and choral parts''<br />
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* {{Bach|176|Es ist ein trotzig und verzagt Ding|post}} &ndash; {{editions|x}}<br />
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* {{Bach|79|Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, vocal and orchestral parts''.<br />
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* {{Bach|43|Gott fähret auf mit Jauchzen|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral parts, choral score''.<br />
**{{NoComp|Du Lebensfürst, Herr Jesu Christ}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.sib}} Sibelius 5] )<br />
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* {{Bach|197|Gott ist unsre Zuversicht}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV197-5.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV197-5.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:BWV197-5.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Cantata BWV 169 - Gott soll allein mein Herze haben}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Du_sueße_Liebe.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|106|Gottes Zeit ist die allerbeste Zeit|post}} &ndash; ''Choral and soloists, with keyboard score''.<br />
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*Halt im Gedächtnis Jesum Christ, BWV 67 <br />
**{{NoCo|Erschienen ist der herrlich Tag|#4 - Erschienen ist der herrlich Tag}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}kleine_kantorei_cappella_piccola/erschienen_ist_der_herrlich_tag {{net}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ (chorale from Cantata No. 67)|#7 - Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ (chorale)}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*Herr, wie du willt, so schick's mit mir, BWV 73<br />
**{{NoCo|Das ist des Vaters Wille|#5 - Das ist des Vaters Wille (chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.sib}} Sibelius 7] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|147|Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben|post}} &ndash; ''Chorales only, several editions available''<br />
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* {{Bach|48|Ich elender Mensch, wer wird mich erlösen|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral parts''.<br />
**{{NoCo|Ach Gott und Herr (Chorale)|Soll's ja so sein, dass Straf' und Pein}} {{LLinkW|bwv-ach2.gif|bwv-ach2.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|133|Ich freue mich in dir|post}} &ndash; ''full score version, split in 2 files''<br />
*Ich habe genug (BWV 82)<br />
**{{NoCo|Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)}}<br />
*Ich habe meine Zuversicht <br />
**{{NoCo|Auf meinen lieben Gott|#6 - Auf meinen lieben Gott (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/auf_meinen_lieben_gott/auf_meinen.pdf {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|21|Ich hatte viel Bekümmerniss|post}} &ndash; ''full score and movements'' &nbsp; <br />
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*Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 177<br />
**{{NoCo|Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ|#5 Chorale}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.cap}} Capella] )<br />
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* {{Bach|56|Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen|post}} ( [{{filepath:Bach-Cantate BVW 56-Conductor.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ), complete<br />
**{{NoCo|Komm, o Tod, du Schlafes Bruder, BWV 56|#5 - Komm, o Tod, du Schlafes Bruder (chorale)}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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* {{Bach|164|Ihr, die ihr euch von Christo nennet|post}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
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* {{Bach|51|Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen|post}} <br />
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*{{NoCo|Jesu, der du meine Seele, BWV 78}} &nbsp; {{Editions|multiple}}<br />
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*Jesus nahm zu sich die Zwölfe, BWV 22<br />
**{{NoCo|Ertödt' uns durch dein' Güte|''#5 - Ertödt' uns durch dein' Güte}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|mather}}/cd/index.shtml?37.txt {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229}}<br />
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*Lobe den Herren den mächtigen König der Ehren, BWV 137<br />
**{{NoCo|Lobe den Herren, der deinen Stand sichtbar gesegnet|#4 - Lobe den Herren, der deinen Stand sichtbar gesegnet}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV137_4.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV137_4.ly}} LilyPond] )<br />
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* {{Bach|11|Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen|post}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.ccarh.org/publications/scores/bach/bwv11/bwv11score.pdf {{extpdf}}] ) ''(Ascension Oratorio)''<br />
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* {{Bach|150|Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich|post}}<br />
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* {{Bach|50|Nun ist das Heil und die Kraft|post}} <br />
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* {{Bach|61|Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland|post}} &nbsp; ''(Complete score and partial movements)''<br />
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*{{NoCo|Nun ruhen alle Wälder|Nun ruhen alle Wälder, BWV 244,11}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.midi}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
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*O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60<br />
**{{NoCo|Es ist genug (Chorale from Cantata 60)|#5 - Es ist genug (chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.umsl.edu/~swlong/downloads/music/MusicPage.html {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|118|O Jesu Christ, meins Lebens Licht|post}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}.<br />
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* {{NoCo|Oratorium Festo Paschali}} &nbsp; BWV 249 ''(Easter Oratorio)''<br />
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* {{Bach|119|Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn|post}} &ndash; ''Full score and Independent numbers''.<br />
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* {{Bach|211|Schweigt stille, plaudert nicht|post}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Kaffeekantate.pdf|Kaffeekantate.mid|Kaffeekantate.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
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* {{Bach|36|Schwingt freudig euch empor|post}}<br />
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* {{Bach|159|Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem|post}}<br />
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*Selig ist der Mann, BWV 57 <br />
**{{NoCo|Richte dich, Liebste, BWV 57, No. 8)|#8 - Richte dich, Liebste (chorale)}} {{LLinkW|bach-ldh.pdf|bach-ldh.mid|bach-ldh.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
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*{{Bach|65|Sie Werden aus Saba alle kommen|post}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Ein Kind geborn zu Bethlehem}}<br />
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*Sie werden euch in den Bann tun, BWV 44<br />
**{{NoCo|Es ist und bleibt Christen Trost, BWV 44, No. 6|#6 - Es ist und bleibt Christen Trost (Aria S solo)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach44 {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|140|Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme|post}}<br />
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*Wachet, betet, seid bereit allezeit<br />
**{{NoCo|Freu dich sehr, o meine Seele|#7 - Freu dich sehr, o meine Seele}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
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*Was mir behagt, ist nur die muntre Jagd, BWV 208 (Hunting Cantata) secular<br />
**{{NoCo|Schafe können sicher weiden (Sheep may safely graze)|#9 - Schafe können sicher weiden (Aria S solo)}} {{LLinkW|bach-she.pdf||bach-she.xml|XML}} ( [{{filepath:Bach-she.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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*{{Bach|12|Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen|post}}<br />
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*{{NoCo|Wer weiss wie nahe mir mein ende}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_-_Wer_weiss,_wie_nahe_mir_mein_Ende.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|54|Widerstehe doch der Sünde|post}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV054-V&P.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|1|Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern|post}}<br />
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*Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29<br />
**{{NoCo|Sinfonia from Cantata No. 29|#1 - Sinfonia}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach29 {{net}}] )<br />
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===Chorale Harmonizations (BWV 250-BWV 438)===<br />
*{{NoCo|185 Bach Chorales}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-254a.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254b.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254c.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254d.pdf}} ''split into 4 files: A-Ein, Eins-Jesu der du meine Seele, Jesu der du meine Seele-O Mensch, O Traurigkeit- ''<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach bleib' bei uns, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 253}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, erhör mein Seufzen und Wehklagen, BWV 254}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott und Herr, wie gross und schwer (Chorale)|Ach Gott und Herr, wie gross und schwer, BWV 255}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach1.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach1.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach, was soll ich Sünder machen (Chorale)|Ach, was soll ich Sünder machen, BWV 259}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach8.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach8.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Alle Menschen müssen sterben (Chorale)|Alle Menschen müssen sterben, BWV 262}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-allm.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-allm.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale)|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr', BWV 260}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ (Chorale)|Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 261}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-allz.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-allz.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Als Jesus Christus in der Nacht, BWV 265|Als Jesus Christus in der Nacht, BWV 265}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.pdf|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.mid|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.cap|Capella}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Aus meines Herzens Grunde, BWV 269}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Befiehl du deine Wege, BWV 272}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/befiehl_du_deine_wege/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bekennen will ich seinen Namen, BWV 200}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach200 {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ, der du bist der helle Tag|Christ, der du bist der helle Tag, BWV 273}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/christus_der_du_bist/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale)|Christ ist erstanden, BWV 276}} &nbsp; ''several editions available.''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ lag in Todesbanden}} all 4 harmonizations<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 280|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 280}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chr7.pdf|bwv-chr7.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der ist mein Leben (Chorale)|Christus, der ist mein Leben, BWV 281}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chrs.pdf|bwv-chrs.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale)|Christus, der uns selig macht, BWV 283}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chs2.pdf|bwv-chs2.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gott, der du selber bist das Licht, BWV 316}} &nbsp; {{LLink|BWV_316.pdf|BWV_316.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Da der Herr Christ zu Tische sass (Chorale)|Da der Herr Christ zu Tische sass, BWV 285}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dade.pdf|bwv-dade.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei Gott in der Höhe (Chorale)|Dank sei Gott in der Höhe, BWV 287}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dan2.pdf|bwv-dan2.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Danket dem Herren, denn er ist freundlich (Chorale)|Danket dem Herren, denn er ist freundlich, BWV 286}} {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Das alte Jahr vergangen ist (Chorale)|Das alte Jahr vergangen ist, BWV 288}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dasa.pdf|bwv-dasa.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Die Sonn hat sich|Die Sonn hat sich, BWV 297}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dir, dir Jehova|Dir dir Jehova, BWV 299}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/dir_dir_jehova/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ein Lämmlein geht und trägt die Schuld, BWV 267}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gib dich zufrieden und sei stille|Gib dich zufrieden und sei stille, BWV 315}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Heut triumphieret Gottes Sohn|Heut triumphieret Gottes Sohn, BWV 342}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich hab mein Sach|Ich hab mein Sach, BWV 351}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/ich_hab_mein_sach/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|In dulci jubilo|In dulci jubilo, BWV 368}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, Jesu, du bist mein, BWV 357}} {{LLink|Bach-jesu_jesu.pdf|Bach-jesu_jesu.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, nun sei gepreiset, BWV 362|Jesu, nun sei gepreiset, BWV 362}} {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Nun_komm.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Nun_komm.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Nun_komm.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Warum sollt ich mich denn grämen BWV 422}} English only<br />
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===Comparative Editions (Chorales with different harmonizations)===<br />
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*{{NoCo|Chorals of the German Organ Mass (Clavier Übung III)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/node/408 {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh' darein (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 2, BWV 77 and BWV 153''<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 3 and BWV 153''<br />
*{{NoCo|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale)|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale) BWV 260}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 104 and BWV 112''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale)|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale) BWV 276}} &nbsp; ''4 editions of other harmonizations.<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam (Chorale)|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam (Chorale) BWV 280}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 7 and BWV 176''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale)|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale) BWV 283}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in BWV 245''<br />
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===Other works===<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Der Geist hilft unsrer Schwachheit auf|Der Geist hilft unser Schwachheit auf, BWV 226}} {{LLinkW|bach-226.pdf|bach-226.mid|bach-226.zip|Finale 2000}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Freut euch und jubiliert|Freut euch und jubiliert, BWV 243a}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Fürchte dich nicht (BWV 228)}} {{LLinkW|bach-228.pdf}} [{{filepath:Bach-228.mid}} {{mid}}]<br />
*{{NoCo|Gelobet sei der Herr}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo|Gloria in excelsis Deo, BWV 243a, #c}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich lasse dich nicht, du segnest mich denn}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier, BWV 469}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227}} &nbsp; ''complete edition and separate movements''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, Jesu, du bist mein, BWV 470}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|Bach-jes.pdf|Bach-jes.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesus meine Zuversicht}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/jesus_meine_zuversicht/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, Gott Schöpfer}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/komm_gott_schoepfer/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, heiliger Geist, Herre Gott BWV 226}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, süsser Tod}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bach-kom.pdf|bach-kom.mid|bach-kom.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobe den Herren}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/lobe_den_herren/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet den Herrn, BWV 230}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bach-230.pdf|bach-230.mid|bach-230.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Magnificat|Magnificat, BWV 243}} &nbsp; ''2 editions available (full score and piano-vocal)''<br />
*{{NoCo|Mass in B minor, BWV 232}} &nbsp; ''several editions available, separate movements''<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in F}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|hoessl-orch}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in G BWV236}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|hoessl-orch}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in g minor, BWV 235}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in A}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Mein gläubiges Herze}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/bach-mein-glaubiges-herze/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Nun bitten wir den heiligen Geist}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_bitten_wir/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun danket alle Gott}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun hilf uns, Herr, den Dienern dein}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun preiset alle}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_preiset_alle/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun sich der Tag}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_sich_der_tag/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Caput Cruentatum}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach - O caput cruentatum (ed. Angelini).pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_-_O_caput_cruentatum_(ed._Angelini).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Jesulein süß}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig, BWV 401}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Mensch, bewein' dein' Sünde groß, BWV 402}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Psallite Deo nostro in laetitia (sicut locutus est from Magnificat)}} {{LLinkW|bach-psa.pdf|bach-psa.mid|bach-psa.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Round me falls the night}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.capx}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Saget mir geschwinde}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Bach_saget.pdf|Bach_saget.mid|Bach_saget.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus, BWV 325}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-325b.pdf}} [{{filepath:Bwv-325b.mid}} {{mid}}]<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in C, BWV 237}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Sanctus_In_C.pdf|Sanctus_In_C.mid|A_Fairy_Town.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in D BWV 238}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in D minor BWV 239}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sei Lob und Preis mit Ehren}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/node/459 {{pdf}}] [http://lilymusic.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/bach/bwv-231-satb.ly {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Singen wir aus Herzensgrund}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Singet dem Herrn}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-225.pdf|bwv-225.mid|bwv-225.zip|LilyPond}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sollt ich meinem Gott nicht singen}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/sollt_ich/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|St John Passion, BWV 245}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|St Matthew Passion, BWV 244}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Van 't vroeglicht van de dageraad, BWV 121}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vergiss mein nicht}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Verleih' uns Frieden gnädiglich}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wach auf, mein Herz, und singe}} {{LLinkW|bach-79f.pdf|bach-79f.mid|bach-79f.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan}} {{LLinkW|wasgott.pdf||wasgott.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Wer nur den lieben Gott läßt walten}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Wir Christenleut'}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
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===Editions with texts translated to other languages===<br />
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*{{NoCo|Ah Lord when my last end is come|Ah Lord when my last end is come}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?2.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|All glory, laud and honour}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?3.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|All my heart this night rejoices}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Behold! in lowly manger stall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|mather}}/cd/index.shtml?55.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Credo in unum Deum}}{{LLinkW|bach-cre.pdf|bach-cre.mid|bach-cre.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Discendi Santo Spirito}}{{LLinkW|bach-dis.pdf|bach-dis.mid|bach-dis.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Ein Kind geborn zu Bethlehem}}{{LnkWeb|xmassongbook}}&nbsp;''English translation of BWV 65, #2''<br />
*{{NoComp|Lodate Dio}} (Italian version of 'Lobet den Herrn') &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Now Blessed be Thou, Christ Jesu}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Now join we all to praise Thee, BWV 362}}{{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Now let us to the bagpipe' sound (from 'Peasant Cantata')}} {{LnkWeb|chorusrehearsal}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O hail this brightest day of days}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Jesulein süß|O Little Sweet (English translation of Jesulein süß)}} {{LLinkW|bach-oj2.pdf|bach-oje.mid|bach-oj2.mus|Finale 2001}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Oratório de Natal|Oratório de Natal}} (Portuguese version of Christmas Oratory) &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Oratório_de_Natal_Part_I.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )[http://oratoriodenatal.blogspot.com.br/]<br />
*{{NoComp|Rejoice ye Heavens}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?34.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Señor, tu que eres bueno}}{{LnkWeb|cantoral}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Signore dolce volto}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|We Christians may rejoice}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
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===Vocal Arrangements based on Bach's works===<br />
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*{{NoComp|Aria de la Suite No. 3}}{{LLinkW|astor-ag.pdf|astor-ag.mid|astor-ag.mus|Finale 2003}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Bach's Christmas Carol}} &nbsp; ( [http://websights.org/bachcarol/NPoole_BachCarol.pdf {{extpdf}}] [http://websights.org/bachcarol/bachcarol.mp3 {{extmp3}}] [http://websights.org/bachcarol/bachcarol.mid {{extmid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Come, let us all this day, BWV 479}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_-_Come,_let_us_all_this_day_(BWV479).pdf }} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_-_Come,_let_us_all_this_day_(BWV479).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Dona nobis pacem}} (Arrangement from the Prelude in C) &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Haec Tibi dona pura|Johann Sebastian Bach (mel.)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|HaecTibi.pdf|HaecTibi.mid|HaecTibi.enc|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gottes Sohn ist kommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}kleine_kantorei_cappella_piccola/gottes_sohn_ist_kommen/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier, BWV 469}} &nbsp; ''2 editions available (choral arrangements)''<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu deine Liebeswunden|Jesu deine Liebeswunden, BWV 471}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#JesuDeineLiebeswunden {{net}}] ) (Choral arrangement)<br />
*{{NoCo|Kommt, Seelen, dieser Tag, BWV 479}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.midi}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Ode to the Seasons (and to Change)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.evatoller.se/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O sacred head}} (from St. Mattäus-Passion, nrs. 15/17 and nr. 54) ( [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.capx}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spiritus Domini}} &nbsp; (Arrangement of fugue nr.9 from WTC II BWV 878) ( [{{filepath:Bach_Spiritus_Domini.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Spiritus_Domini.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Spiritus_domini_bach.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wachet auf!}} &nbsp; (Bach's harmonisation plus 2 varied verses by Robin Doveton) ( [http://dovetonmusic.com/Cat_Carols.html {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Veni Sancte Spiritus}} [http://www.pandolfopaolo.com/?attachment_id=617 {{pdf}}] from Die Kunst der Fuge BWV 1080 transcription and adaptation by Paolo Pandolfo http://www.pandolfopaolo.com<br />
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===Misattributed works===<br />
*{{NoComp|Aperite Portas}} ''(misattributed)'' &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Aperite portas (ed. Angelini).pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Aperite_portas_(ed._Angelini).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*[[Bist du bei mir (Gottfried Heinrich Stölzel)|Bist du bei mir BWV 508 (Gottfried Heinrich Stölzel)]] &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*[[St. Luke Passion, BWV 246 (Anonymous)]]<br />
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== Recordings of interest ==<br />
'''Bach: Cantatas for alto'''<br />
*Performer: Andreas Scholl, Marcel Ponseele, Markus Markl<br />
*Orchestra: Collegium Vocale Orchestra<br />
*Audio CD (October 12, 1999);1 Disc<br />
*Label: Harmonia Mundi Fr.<br />
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==External links==<br />
* [http://www.jsbach.org/ Johann Sebastian Bach Home Page]<br />
*[http://www.bach-digital.de/content/below/index.xml?XSL.lastPage.SESSION=/content/below/index.xml JSB's autograph scores] at Bach Digital<br />
* [http://bach-cantatas.com/Scores Bach Cantatas Website]: Free PDF vocal scores to nearly every Bach cantata<br />
* The [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Bach%2C_Johann_Sebastian BGA-edition piece by piece] (in PDF) on the site of the [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Main_Page International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP)] <br />
* The (almost) [http://notes.tarakanov.net/bachpss.htm complete BGA] in PDF (complete books) - Russian site<br />
* [http://scores.ccarh.org/bach/ Parts for BWV 11, 43, 48, 213, 232 and complete Chorales] at CCARH<br />
* [http://www.music.qub.ac.uk/~tomita/bachbib Johann Sebastian Bach bibliography]<br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 21 March 1685<br />
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'''Died:''' 28 July 1750<br />
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'''Biography'''<br />
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Johann Sebastian Bach was a prolific German composer and organist whose sacred and secular works for choir, orchestra, and solo instruments drew together the strands of the Baroque period and brought it to its ultimate maturity. Although he introduced no new forms, he enriched the prevailing German style with a robust contrapuntal technique, a control of harmonic and motivic organization from the smallest to the largest scales, and the adaptation of rhythms and textures from abroad, particularly Italy and France.<br />
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While Bach's fame as an organist was great during his lifetime, he was not particularly well-known as a composer. His adherence to Baroque forms and contrapuntal style was considered "old-fashioned" by his contemporaries, especially late in his career when the musical fashion tended towards Rococo and later Classical styles. A revival of interest and performances of his music began early in the 19th century, and he is now widely considered to be one of the greatest composers in the Western tradition.<br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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* Bach works published at CPDL sorted alphabetically by title, see {{CiteCat|Johann Sebastian Bach compositions}}<br />
* Bach Cantatas sorted by BWV number, see [[Johann Sebastian Bach - list of cantatas]]<br />
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{{Legend}}<br />
{{Recent_additions}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)}}<br />
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===Cantatas (BWV1-BWV 224 and BWV 249)===<br />
* {{Bach|2|Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh darein|post}} &ndash; ''chorale only''<br />
** Chorale - Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh darein &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|3|Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid|post}} &ndash; ''complete, full score, separate movements''<br />
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* {{Bach|26|Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig|post}} &ndash; ''chorale only''<br />
** Chorale - Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach9.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach9.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|131|Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir|post}}, complete. ( [http://jennings.comule.com {{net}}] )<br />
** Orchestral parts: {{LLinkW|bwv131-0.pdf||bwv131-0.zip|Finale 2000}}<br />
** No. 4: Tenor aria with alto chorale, ''Meine Seele wartet''. {{LLinkW|bwv-131d.pdf|bwv-131d.mid|bwv-131d.zip|Encore}}<br />
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* {{Bach|38|Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir|post}} &ndash; ''Several editions available''.<br />
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* {{Bach|4|Christ lag in Todesbanden|post}} &ndash; ''Several editions available''<br />
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* {{Bach|7|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam|post}} &ndash; ''movements 1 & 7 available''<br />
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* {{Bach|121|Christum wir sollen loben schon|post}}<br />
** No. 6: Chorale - Lob Ehr' und Preis sei Gott &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|112|Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt|post}}<br />
** No. 1: Der Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt. {{LLinkW|bwv-112a.pdf|bwv-112a.mid}}<br />
** No. 5: Gutes und die Barmherzigkeit folgen mir nach {{LLinkW|bwv-112e.pdf|bwv-112e.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|75|Die Elenden sollen essen|post}}<br />
** No. 14: Chorus - Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/cantata/bach/BWV_75/ {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Erfreut euch, ihr Herzen, BWV 66}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV066_Choro.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV066_Coro.ly}} {{ly}}] ) &ndash; ''Choir only''<br />
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* {{Bach|172|Erschallet, ihr Lieder|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral and choral parts''<br />
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* {{Bach|176|Es ist ein trotzig und verzagt Ding|post}} &ndash; {{editions|x}}<br />
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* {{Bach|79|Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, vocal and orchestral parts''.<br />
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* {{Bach|43|Gott fähret auf mit Jauchzen|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral parts, choral score''.<br />
**{{NoComp|Du Lebensfürst, Herr Jesu Christ}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.sib}} Sibelius 5] )<br />
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* {{Bach|197|Gott ist unsre Zuversicht}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV197-5.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV197-5.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:BWV197-5.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Cantata BWV 169 - Gott soll allein mein Herze haben}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Du_sueße_Liebe.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|106|Gottes Zeit ist die allerbeste Zeit|post}} &ndash; ''Choral and soloists, with keyboard score''.<br />
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*Halt im Gedächtnis Jesum Christ, BWV 67 <br />
**{{NoCo|Erschienen ist der herrlich Tag|#4 - Erschienen ist der herrlich Tag}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}kleine_kantorei_cappella_piccola/erschienen_ist_der_herrlich_tag {{net}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ (chorale from Cantata No. 67)|#7 - Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ (chorale)}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*Herr, wie du willt, so schick's mit mir, BWV 73<br />
**{{NoCo|Das ist des Vaters Wille|#5 - Das ist des Vaters Wille (chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.sib}} Sibelius 7] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|147|Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben|post}} &ndash; ''Chorales only, several editions available''<br />
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* {{Bach|48|Ich elender Mensch, wer wird mich erlösen|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral parts''.<br />
**{{NoCo|Ach Gott und Herr (Chorale)|Soll's ja so sein, dass Straf' und Pein}} {{LLinkW|bwv-ach2.gif|bwv-ach2.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|133|Ich freue mich in dir|post}} &ndash; ''full score version, split in 2 files''<br />
*Ich habe genug (BWV 82)<br />
**{{NoCo|Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)}}<br />
*Ich habe meine Zuversicht <br />
**{{NoCo|Auf meinen lieben Gott|#6 - Auf meinen lieben Gott (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/auf_meinen_lieben_gott/auf_meinen.pdf {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|21|Ich hatte viel Bekümmerniss|post}} &ndash; ''full score and movements'' &nbsp; <br />
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*Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 177<br />
**{{NoCo|Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ|#5 Chorale}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.cap}} Capella] )<br />
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* {{Bach|56|Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen|post}} ( [{{filepath:Bach-Cantate BVW 56-Conductor.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ), complete<br />
**{{NoCo|Komm, o Tod, du Schlafes Bruder, BWV 56|#5 - Komm, o Tod, du Schlafes Bruder (chorale)}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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* {{Bach|164|Ihr, die ihr euch von Christo nennet|post}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
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* {{Bach|51|Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen|post}} <br />
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*{{NoCo|Jesu, der du meine Seele, BWV 78}} &nbsp; {{Editions|multiple}}<br />
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*Jesus nahm zu sich die Zwölfe, BWV 22<br />
**{{NoCo|Ertödt' uns durch dein' Güte|''#5 - Ertödt' uns durch dein' Güte}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|mather}}/cd/index.shtml?37.txt {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229}}<br />
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*Lobe den Herren den mächtigen König der Ehren, BWV 137<br />
**{{NoCo|Lobe den Herren, der deinen Stand sichtbar gesegnet|#4 - Lobe den Herren, der deinen Stand sichtbar gesegnet}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV137_4.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV137_4.ly}} LilyPond] )<br />
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* {{Bach|11|Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen|post}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.ccarh.org/publications/scores/bach/bwv11/bwv11score.pdf {{extpdf}}] ) ''(Ascension Oratorio)''<br />
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* {{Bach|150|Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich|post}}<br />
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* {{Bach|50|Nun ist das Heil und die Kraft|post}} <br />
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* {{Bach|61|Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland|post}} &nbsp; ''(Complete score and partial movements)''<br />
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*{{NoCo|Nun ruhen alle Wälder|Nun ruhen alle Wälder, BWV 244,11}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.midi}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
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*O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60<br />
**{{NoCo|Es ist genug (Chorale from Cantata 60)|#5 - Es ist genug (chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.umsl.edu/~swlong/downloads/music/MusicPage.html {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|118|O Jesu Christ, meins Lebens Licht|post}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}.<br />
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* {{NoCo|Oratorium Festo Paschali}} &nbsp; BWV 249 ''(Easter Oratorio)''<br />
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* {{Bach|119|Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn|post}} &ndash; ''Full score and Independent numbers''.<br />
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* {{Bach|211|Schweigt stille, plaudert nicht|post}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Kaffeekantate.pdf|Kaffeekantate.mid|Kaffeekantate.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
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* {{Bach|36|Schwingt freudig euch empor|post}}<br />
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* {{Bach|159|Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem|post}}<br />
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*Selig ist der Mann, BWV 57 <br />
**{{NoCo|Richte dich, Liebste, BWV 57, No. 8)|#8 - Richte dich, Liebste (chorale)}} {{LLinkW|bach-ldh.pdf|bach-ldh.mid|bach-ldh.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
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*{{Bach|65|Sie Werden aus Saba alle kommen|post}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Ein Kind geborn zu Bethlehem}}<br />
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*Sie werden euch in den Bann tun, BWV 44<br />
**{{NoCo|Es ist und bleibt Christen Trost, BWV 44, No. 6|#6 - Es ist und bleibt Christen Trost (Aria S solo)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach44 {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|140|Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme|post}}<br />
<br />
*Wachet, betet, seid bereit allezeit<br />
**{{NoCo|Freu dich sehr, o meine Seele|#7 - Freu dich sehr, o meine Seele}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
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*Was mir behagt, ist nur die muntre Jagd, BWV 208 (Hunting Cantata) secular<br />
**{{NoCo|Schafe können sicher weiden (Sheep may safely graze)|#9 - Schafe können sicher weiden (Aria S solo)}} {{LLinkW|bach-she.pdf||bach-she.xml|XML}} ( [{{filepath:Bach-she.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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*{{Bach|12|Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen|post}}<br />
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*{{NoCo|Wer weiss wie nahe mir mein ende}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_-_Wer_weiss,_wie_nahe_mir_mein_Ende.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|54|Widerstehe doch der Sünde|post}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV054-V&P.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|1|Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern|post}}<br />
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*Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29<br />
**{{NoCo|Sinfonia from Cantata No. 29|#1 - Sinfonia}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach29 {{net}}] )<br />
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===Chorale Harmonizations (BWV 250-BWV 438)===<br />
*{{NoCo|185 Bach Chorales}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-254a.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254b.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254c.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254d.pdf}} ''split into 4 files: A-Ein, Eins-Jesu der du meine Seele, Jesu der du meine Seele-O Mensch, O Traurigkeit- ''<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach bleib' bei uns, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 253}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, erhör mein Seufzen und Wehklagen, BWV 254}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott und Herr, wie gross und schwer (Chorale)|Ach Gott und Herr, wie gross und schwer, BWV 255}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach1.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach1.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach, was soll ich Sünder machen (Chorale)|Ach, was soll ich Sünder machen, BWV 259}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach8.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach8.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Alle Menschen müssen sterben (Chorale)|Alle Menschen müssen sterben, BWV 262}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-allm.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-allm.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale)|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr', BWV 260}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ (Chorale)|Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 261}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-allz.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-allz.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Als Jesus Christus in der Nacht, BWV 265|Als Jesus Christus in der Nacht, BWV 265}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.pdf|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.mid|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.cap|Capella}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Aus meines Herzens Grunde, BWV 269}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Befiehl du deine Wege, BWV 272}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/befiehl_du_deine_wege/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bekennen will ich seinen Namen, BWV 200}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach200 {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ, der du bist der helle Tag|Christ, der du bist der helle Tag, BWV 273}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/christus_der_du_bist/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale)|Christ ist erstanden, BWV 276}} &nbsp; ''several editions available.''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ lag in Todesbanden}} all 4 harmonizations<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 280|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 280}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chr7.pdf|bwv-chr7.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der ist mein Leben (Chorale)|Christus, der ist mein Leben, BWV 281}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chrs.pdf|bwv-chrs.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale)|Christus, der uns selig macht, BWV 283}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chs2.pdf|bwv-chs2.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gott, der du selber bist das Licht, BWV 316}} &nbsp; {{LLink|BWV_316.pdf|BWV_316.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Da der Herr Christ zu Tische sass (Chorale)|Da der Herr Christ zu Tische sass, BWV 285}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dade.pdf|bwv-dade.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei Gott in der Höhe (Chorale)|Dank sei Gott in der Höhe, BWV 287}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dan2.pdf|bwv-dan2.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Danket dem Herren, denn er ist freundlich (Chorale)|Danket dem Herren, denn er ist freundlich, BWV 286}} {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Das alte Jahr vergangen ist (Chorale)|Das alte Jahr vergangen ist, BWV 288}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dasa.pdf|bwv-dasa.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Die Sonn hat sich|Die Sonn hat sich, BWV 297}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dir, dir Jehova|Dir dir Jehova, BWV 299}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/dir_dir_jehova/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ein Lämmlein geht und trägt die Schuld, BWV 267}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gib dich zufrieden und sei stille|Gib dich zufrieden und sei stille, BWV 315}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Heut triumphieret Gottes Sohn|Heut triumphieret Gottes Sohn, BWV 342}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich hab mein Sach|Ich hab mein Sach, BWV 351}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/ich_hab_mein_sach/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|In dulci jubilo|In dulci jubilo, BWV 368}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, Jesu, du bist mein, BWV 357}} {{LLink|Bach-jesu_jesu.pdf|Bach-jesu_jesu.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, nun sei gepreiset, BWV 362|Jesu, nun sei gepreiset, BWV 362}} {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Nun_komm.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Nun_komm.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Nun_komm.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Warum sollt ich mich denn grämen BWV 422}} English only<br />
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===Comparative Editions (Chorales with different harmonizations)===<br />
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*{{NoCo|Chorals of the German Organ Mass (Clavier Übung III)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/node/408 {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh' darein (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 2, BWV 77 and BWV 153''<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 3 and BWV 153''<br />
*{{NoCo|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale)|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale) BWV 260}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 104 and BWV 112''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale)|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale) BWV 276}} &nbsp; ''4 editions of other harmonizations.<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam (Chorale)|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam (Chorale) BWV 280}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 7 and BWV 176''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale)|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale) BWV 283}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in BWV 245''<br />
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===Other works===<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Der Geist hilft unsrer Schwachheit auf|Der Geist hilft unser Schwachheit auf, BWV 226}} {{LLinkW|bach-226.pdf|bach-226.mid|bach-226.zip|Finale 2000}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Freut euch und jubiliert|Freut euch und jubiliert, BWV 243a}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Fürchte dich nicht (BWV 228)}} {{LLinkW|bach-228.pdf}} [{{filepath:Bach-228.mid}} {{mid}}]<br />
*{{NoCo|Gelobet sei der Herr}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo|Gloria in excelsis Deo, BWV 243a, #c}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich lasse dich nicht, du segnest mich denn}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier, BWV 469}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227}} &nbsp; ''complete edition and separate movements''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, Jesu, du bist mein, BWV 470}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|Bach-jes.pdf|Bach-jes.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesus meine Zuversicht}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/jesus_meine_zuversicht/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, Gott Schöpfer}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/komm_gott_schoepfer/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, heiliger Geist, Herre Gott BWV 226}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, süsser Tod}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bach-kom.pdf|bach-kom.mid|bach-kom.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobe den Herren}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/lobe_den_herren/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet den Herrn, BWV 230}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bach-230.pdf|bach-230.mid|bach-230.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Magnificat|Magnificat, BWV 243}} &nbsp; ''2 editions available (full score and piano-vocal)''<br />
*{{NoCo|Mass in B minor, BWV 232}} &nbsp; ''several editions available, separate movements''<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in F}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|hoessl-orch}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in G BWV236}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|hoessl-orch}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in g minor, BWV 235}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in A}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Mein gläubiges Herze}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/bach-mein-glaubiges-herze/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Nun bitten wir den heiligen Geist}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_bitten_wir/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun danket alle Gott}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun hilf uns, Herr, den Dienern dein}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun preiset alle}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_preiset_alle/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun sich der Tag}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_sich_der_tag/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Caput Cruentatum}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach - O caput cruentatum (ed. Angelini).pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_-_O_caput_cruentatum_(ed._Angelini).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Jesulein süß}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig, BWV 401}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Mensch, bewein' dein' Sünde groß, BWV 402}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Psallite Deo nostro in laetitia (sicut locutus est from Magnificat)}} {{LLinkW|bach-psa.pdf|bach-psa.mid|bach-psa.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Round me falls the night}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.capx}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Saget mir geschwinde}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Bach_saget.pdf|Bach_saget.mid|Bach_saget.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus, BWV 325}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-325b.pdf}} [{{filepath:Bwv-325b.mid}} {{mid}}]<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in C, BWV 237}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Sanctus_In_C.pdf|Sanctus_In_C.mid|A_Fairy_Town.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in D BWV 238}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in D minor BWV 239}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sei Lob und Preis mit Ehren}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/node/459 {{pdf}}] [http://lilymusic.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/bach/bwv-231-satb.ly {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Singen wir aus Herzensgrund}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Singet dem Herrn}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-225.pdf|bwv-225.mid|bwv-225.zip|LilyPond}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sollt ich meinem Gott nicht singen}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/sollt_ich/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|St John Passion, BWV 245}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|St Matthew Passion, BWV 244}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Van 't vroeglicht van de dageraad, BWV 121}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vergiss mein nicht}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Verleih' uns Frieden gnädiglich}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wach auf, mein Herz, und singe}} {{LLinkW|bach-79f.pdf|bach-79f.mid|bach-79f.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan}} {{LLinkW|wasgott.pdf||wasgott.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Wer nur den lieben Gott läßt walten}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Wir Christenleut'}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
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===Editions with texts translated to other languages===<br />
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*{{NoCo|Ah Lord when my last end is come|Ah Lord when my last end is come}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?2.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|All glory, laud and honour}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?3.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|All my heart this night rejoices}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Behold! in lowly manger stall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|mather}}/cd/index.shtml?55.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Credo in unum Deum}}{{LLinkW|bach-cre.pdf|bach-cre.mid|bach-cre.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Discendi Santo Spirito}}{{LLinkW|bach-dis.pdf|bach-dis.mid|bach-dis.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Ein Kind geborn zu Bethlehem}}{{LnkWeb|xmassongbook}}&nbsp;''English translation of BWV 65, #2''<br />
*{{NoComp|Lodate Dio}} (Italian version of 'Lobet den Herrn') &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Now Blessed be Thou, Christ Jesu}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Now join we all to praise Thee, BWV 362}}{{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Now let us to the bagpipe' sound (from 'Peasant Cantata')}} {{LnkWeb|chorusrehearsal}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O hail this brightest day of days}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Jesulein süß|O Little Sweet (English translation of Jesulein süß)}} {{LLinkW|bach-oj2.pdf|bach-oje.mid|bach-oj2.mus|Finale 2001}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Oratório de Natal|Oratório de Natal}} (Portuguese version of Christmas Oratory) &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Oratório_de_Natal_Part_I.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )[http://oratoriodenatal.blogspot.com.br/]<br />
*{{NoComp|Rejoice ye Heavens}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?34.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Señor, tu que eres bueno}}{{LnkWeb|cantoral}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Signore dolce volto}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|We Christians may rejoice}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
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===Vocal Arrangements based on Bach's works===<br />
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*{{NoComp|Aria de la Suite No. 3}}{{LLinkW|astor-ag.pdf|astor-ag.mid|astor-ag.mus|Finale 2003}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Bach's Christmas Carol}} &nbsp; ( [http://websights.org/bachcarol/NPoole_BachCarol.pdf {{extpdf}}] [http://websights.org/bachcarol/bachcarol.mp3 {{extmp3}}] [http://websights.org/bachcarol/bachcarol.mid {{extmid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Come, let us all this day, BWV 479}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_-_Come,_let_us_all_this_day_(BWV479).pdf }} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_-_Come,_let_us_all_this_day_(BWV479).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Dona nobis pacem}} (Arrangement from the Prelude in C) &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Haec Tibi dona pura|Johann Sebastian Bach (mel.)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|HaecTibi.pdf|HaecTibi.mid|HaecTibi.enc|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gottes Sohn ist kommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}kleine_kantorei_cappella_piccola/gottes_sohn_ist_kommen/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier, BWV 469}} &nbsp; ''2 editions available (choral arrangements)''<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu deine Liebeswunden|Jesu deine Liebeswunden, BWV 471}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#JesuDeineLiebeswunden {{net}}] ) (Choral arrangement)<br />
*{{NoCo|Kommt, Seelen, dieser Tag, BWV 479}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.midi}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Ode to the Seasons (and to Change)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.evatoller.se/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O sacred head}} (from St. Mattäus-Passion, nrs. 15/17 and nr. 54) ( [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.capx}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spiritus Domini}} &nbsp; (Arrangement of fugue nr.9 from WTC II BWV 878) ( [{{filepath:Bach_Spiritus_Domini.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Spiritus_Domini.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Spiritus_domini_bach.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wachet auf!}} &nbsp; (Bach's harmonisation plus 2 varied verses by Robin Doveton) ( [http://dovetonmusic.com/Cat_Carols.html {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Veni Sancte Spiritus}} [http://www.pandolfopaolo.com/?attachment_id=617 {{pdf}}] from Die Kunst der Fuge BWV 1080 transcription and adaptation by Paolo Pandolfo http://www.pandolfopaolo.com<br />
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===Misattributed works===<br />
*{{NoComp|Aperite Portas}} ''(misattributed)'' &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Aperite portas (ed. Angelini).pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Aperite_portas_(ed._Angelini).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*[[Bist du bei mir (Gottfried Heinrich Stölzel)|Bist du bei mir BWV 508 (Gottfried Heinrich Stölzel)]] &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*[[St. Luke Passion, BWV 246 (Anonymous)]]<br />
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== Recordings of interest ==<br />
'''Bach: Cantatas for alto'''<br />
*Performer: Andreas Scholl, Marcel Ponseele, Markus Markl<br />
*Orchestra: Collegium Vocale Orchestra<br />
*Audio CD (October 12, 1999);1 Disc<br />
*Label: Harmonia Mundi Fr.<br />
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==External links==<br />
* [http://www.jsbach.org/ Johann Sebastian Bach Home Page]<br />
*[http://www.bach-digital.de/content/below/index.xml?XSL.lastPage.SESSION=/content/below/index.xml JSB's autograph scores] at Bach Digital<br />
* [http://bach-cantatas.com/Scores Bach Cantatas Website]: Free PDF vocal scores to nearly every Bach cantata<br />
* The [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Bach%2C_Johann_Sebastian BGA-edition piece by piece] (in PDF) on the site of the [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Main_Page International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP)] <br />
* The (almost) [http://notes.tarakanov.net/bachpss.htm complete BGA] in PDF (complete books) - Russian site<br />
* [http://scores.ccarh.org/bach/ Parts for BWV 11, 43, 48, 213, 232 and complete Chorales] at CCARH<br />
* [http://www.music.qub.ac.uk/~tomita/bachbib Johann Sebastian Bach bibliography]<br />
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[[Category:Thomaskantors]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ich_habe_genug,_BWV_82_(Johann_Sebastian_Bach)&diff=593939Ich habe genug, BWV 82 (Johann Sebastian Bach)2016-01-30T00:52:31Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* General Information */</p>
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{{Editor|Tulipo Petressian|2016-01-30}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|8|152}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' from the cantata "Ich habe genug", BWV 82-5, piano reduction.<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)''<br><br />
{{Composer|Johann Sebastian Bach}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Cantatas}}<br />
{{Language|German}}<br />
{{Instruments|oboe,2 violins, viola, BC.}} <br />
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{{Text|German|<br />
Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod,<br />
Ach, haett' er sich schon eingefunden.<br />
Da entkomm ich aller Not,<br />
Die mich noch auf der Welt gebunden.}}<br />
{{mdl}}<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
All joyous I, this day to die,<br />
ah, tarry not, death, and find me.<br />
For with thee I would I now go,<br />
leaving this world of woe behind me.}}<br />
{{btm}}<br />
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[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ich_habe_genug,_BWV_82_(Johann_Sebastian_Bach)&diff=593938Ich habe genug, BWV 82 (Johann Sebastian Bach)2016-01-30T00:47:16Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Original text and translations */</p>
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{{Editor|Tulipo Petressian|2016-01-30}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|8|152}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' from the cantata "Ich habe genug", BWV 82-5, piano reduction.<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)''<br><br />
{{Composer|Johann Sebastian Bach}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Cantatas}}<br />
{{Language|German}}<br />
{{Instruments|Unknown}}<br />
'''Published:''' <br />
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'''Description:''' <br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
{{top}}<br />
{{Text|German|<br />
Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod,<br />
Ach, haett' er sich schon eingefunden.<br />
Da entkomm ich aller Not,<br />
Die mich noch auf der Welt gebunden.}}<br />
{{mdl}}<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
All joyous I, this day to die,<br />
ah, tarry not, death, and find me.<br />
For with thee I would I now go,<br />
leaving this world of woe behind me.}}<br />
{{btm}}<br />
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[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ich_habe_genug,_BWV_82_(Johann_Sebastian_Bach)&diff=593937Ich habe genug, BWV 82 (Johann Sebastian Bach)2016-01-30T00:41:48Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Original text and translations */</p>
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*{{PostedDate|2016-01-30}} {{CPDLno|38353}} [{{filepath:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.mp3}} {{mp3}}]<br />
{{Editor|Tulipo Petressian|2016-01-30}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|8|152}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' from the cantata "Ich habe genug", BWV 82-5, piano reduction.<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)''<br><br />
{{Composer|Johann Sebastian Bach}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Cantatas}}<br />
{{Language|German}}<br />
{{Instruments|Unknown}}<br />
'''Published:''' <br />
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'''Description:''' <br />
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'''External websites:''' <br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|German|<br />
Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod,<br />
Ach, haett' er sich schon eingefunden.<br />
Da entkomm ich aller Not,<br />
Die mich noch auf der Welt gebunden.}}<br />
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{{Text|English|<br />
All joyous I, this day to die,<br />
ah, tarry not, death, and find me.<br />
For with thee I would I now go,<br />
leaving this world of woe behind me.}}<br />
<br />
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[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ich_habe_genug,_BWV_82_(Johann_Sebastian_Bach)&diff=593936Ich habe genug, BWV 82 (Johann Sebastian Bach)2016-01-30T00:36:28Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Music files */</p>
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*{{PostedDate|2016-01-30}} {{CPDLno|38353}} [{{filepath:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.mp3}} {{mp3}}]<br />
{{Editor|Tulipo Petressian|2016-01-30}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|8|152}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' from the cantata "Ich habe genug", BWV 82-5, piano reduction.<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)''<br><br />
{{Composer|Johann Sebastian Bach}}<br />
{{Lyricist|}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Cantatas}}<br />
{{Language|German}}<br />
{{Instruments|Unknown}}<br />
'''Published:''' <br />
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'''Description:''' <br />
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'''External websites:''' <br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
{{NoText}}<br />
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[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Johann_Sebastian_Bach&diff=593935Johann Sebastian Bach2016-01-30T00:34:24Z<p>Tulipo petressian: New work entry: Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)</p>
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[[Image:Bach,JS.jpg|thumb|J.S. Bach as painted by Gottlieb Haussmann (circa 1747).]]<br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 21 March 1685<br />
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'''Died:''' 28 July 1750<br />
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'''Biography'''<br />
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Johann Sebastian Bach was a prolific German composer and organist whose sacred and secular works for choir, orchestra, and solo instruments drew together the strands of the Baroque period and brought it to its ultimate maturity. Although he introduced no new forms, he enriched the prevailing German style with a robust contrapuntal technique, a control of harmonic and motivic organization from the smallest to the largest scales, and the adaptation of rhythms and textures from abroad, particularly Italy and France.<br />
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While Bach's fame as an organist was great during his lifetime, he was not particularly well-known as a composer. His adherence to Baroque forms and contrapuntal style was considered "old-fashioned" by his contemporaries, especially late in his career when the musical fashion tended towards Rococo and later Classical styles. A revival of interest and performances of his music began early in the 19th century, and he is now widely considered to be one of the greatest composers in the Western tradition.<br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
{{WorksListBox|<br />
* Bach works published at CPDL sorted alphabetically by title, see {{CiteCat|Johann Sebastian Bach compositions}}<br />
* Bach Cantatas sorted by BWV number, see [[Johann Sebastian Bach - list of cantatas]]<br />
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*{{NoCo|Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)}}<br />
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===Cantatas (BWV1-BWV 224 and BWV 249)===<br />
* {{Bach|2|Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh darein|post}} &ndash; ''chorale only''<br />
** Chorale - Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh darein &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|3|Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid|post}} &ndash; ''complete, full score, separate movements''<br />
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* {{Bach|26|Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig|post}} &ndash; ''chorale only''<br />
** Chorale - Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach9.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach9.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|131|Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir|post}}, complete. ( [http://jennings.comule.com {{net}}] )<br />
** Orchestral parts: {{LLinkW|bwv131-0.pdf||bwv131-0.zip|Finale 2000}}<br />
** No. 4: Tenor aria with alto chorale, ''Meine Seele wartet''. {{LLinkW|bwv-131d.pdf|bwv-131d.mid|bwv-131d.zip|Encore}}<br />
<br />
* {{Bach|38|Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir|post}} &ndash; ''Several editions available''.<br />
<br />
* {{Bach|4|Christ lag in Todesbanden|post}} &ndash; ''Several editions available''<br />
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* {{Bach|7|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam|post}} &ndash; ''movements 1 & 7 available''<br />
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* {{Bach|121|Christum wir sollen loben schon|post}}<br />
** No. 6: Chorale - Lob Ehr' und Preis sei Gott &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|112|Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt|post}}<br />
** No. 1: Der Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt. {{LLinkW|bwv-112a.pdf|bwv-112a.mid}}<br />
** No. 5: Gutes und die Barmherzigkeit folgen mir nach {{LLinkW|bwv-112e.pdf|bwv-112e.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|75|Die Elenden sollen essen|post}}<br />
** No. 14: Chorus - Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/cantata/bach/BWV_75/ {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Erfreut euch, ihr Herzen, BWV 66}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV066_Choro.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV066_Coro.ly}} {{ly}}] ) &ndash; ''Choir only''<br />
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* {{Bach|172|Erschallet, ihr Lieder|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral and choral parts''<br />
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* {{Bach|176|Es ist ein trotzig und verzagt Ding|post}} &ndash; {{editions|x}}<br />
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* {{Bach|79|Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, vocal and orchestral parts''.<br />
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* {{Bach|43|Gott fähret auf mit Jauchzen|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral parts, choral score''.<br />
**{{NoComp|Du Lebensfürst, Herr Jesu Christ}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach-DuL.sib}} Sibelius 5] )<br />
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* {{Bach|197|Gott ist unsre Zuversicht}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV197-5.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV197-5.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:BWV197-5.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Cantata BWV 169 - Gott soll allein mein Herze haben}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Du_sueße_Liebe.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|106|Gottes Zeit ist die allerbeste Zeit|post}} &ndash; ''Choral and soloists, with keyboard score''.<br />
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*Halt im Gedächtnis Jesum Christ, BWV 67 <br />
**{{NoCo|Erschienen ist der herrlich Tag|#4 - Erschienen ist der herrlich Tag}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}kleine_kantorei_cappella_piccola/erschienen_ist_der_herrlich_tag {{net}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ (chorale from Cantata No. 67)|#7 - Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ (chorale)}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*Herr, wie du willt, so schick's mit mir, BWV 73<br />
**{{NoCo|Das ist des Vaters Wille|#5 - Das ist des Vaters Wille (chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.sib}} Sibelius 7] [{{filepath:Bach-Das_ist_des_Vaters_Wille.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|147|Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben|post}} &ndash; ''Chorales only, several editions available''<br />
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* {{Bach|48|Ich elender Mensch, wer wird mich erlösen|post}} &ndash; ''Full score, orchestral parts''.<br />
**{{NoCo|Ach Gott und Herr (Chorale)|Soll's ja so sein, dass Straf' und Pein}} {{LLinkW|bwv-ach2.gif|bwv-ach2.mid}}<br />
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* {{Bach|133|Ich freue mich in dir|post}} &ndash; ''full score version, split in 2 files''<br />
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*Ich habe meine Zuversicht <br />
**{{NoCo|Auf meinen lieben Gott|#6 - Auf meinen lieben Gott (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/auf_meinen_lieben_gott/auf_meinen.pdf {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|21|Ich hatte viel Bekümmerniss|post}} &ndash; ''full score and movements'' &nbsp; <br />
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*Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 177<br />
**{{NoCo|Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ|#5 Chorale}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Ich_ruf_zu_dir.cap}} Capella] )<br />
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* {{Bach|56|Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen|post}} ( [{{filepath:Bach-Cantate BVW 56-Conductor.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ), complete<br />
**{{NoCo|Komm, o Tod, du Schlafes Bruder, BWV 56|#5 - Komm, o Tod, du Schlafes Bruder (chorale)}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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* {{Bach|164|Ihr, die ihr euch von Christo nennet|post}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
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* {{Bach|51|Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen|post}} <br />
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*{{NoCo|Jesu, der du meine Seele, BWV 78}} &nbsp; {{Editions|multiple}}<br />
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*Jesus nahm zu sich die Zwölfe, BWV 22<br />
**{{NoCo|Ertödt' uns durch dein' Güte|''#5 - Ertödt' uns durch dein' Güte}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|mather}}/cd/index.shtml?37.txt {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229}}<br />
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*Lobe den Herren den mächtigen König der Ehren, BWV 137<br />
**{{NoCo|Lobe den Herren, der deinen Stand sichtbar gesegnet|#4 - Lobe den Herren, der deinen Stand sichtbar gesegnet}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV137_4.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV137_4.ly}} LilyPond] )<br />
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* {{Bach|11|Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen|post}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.ccarh.org/publications/scores/bach/bwv11/bwv11score.pdf {{extpdf}}] ) ''(Ascension Oratorio)''<br />
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* {{Bach|150|Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich|post}}<br />
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* {{Bach|50|Nun ist das Heil und die Kraft|post}} <br />
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* {{Bach|61|Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland|post}} &nbsp; ''(Complete score and partial movements)''<br />
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*{{NoCo|Nun ruhen alle Wälder|Nun ruhen alle Wälder, BWV 244,11}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.midi}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Nun_ruhen_alle_waelder.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
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*O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60<br />
**{{NoCo|Es ist genug (Chorale from Cantata 60)|#5 - Es ist genug (chorale)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.umsl.edu/~swlong/downloads/music/MusicPage.html {{net}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|118|O Jesu Christ, meins Lebens Licht|post}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}.<br />
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* {{NoCo|Oratorium Festo Paschali}} &nbsp; BWV 249 ''(Easter Oratorio)''<br />
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* {{Bach|119|Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn|post}} &ndash; ''Full score and Independent numbers''.<br />
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* {{Bach|211|Schweigt stille, plaudert nicht|post}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Kaffeekantate.pdf|Kaffeekantate.mid|Kaffeekantate.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
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* {{Bach|36|Schwingt freudig euch empor|post}}<br />
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* {{Bach|159|Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem|post}}<br />
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*Selig ist der Mann, BWV 57 <br />
**{{NoCo|Richte dich, Liebste, BWV 57, No. 8)|#8 - Richte dich, Liebste (chorale)}} {{LLinkW|bach-ldh.pdf|bach-ldh.mid|bach-ldh.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
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*{{Bach|65|Sie Werden aus Saba alle kommen|post}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Ein Kind geborn zu Bethlehem}}<br />
<br />
*Sie werden euch in den Bann tun, BWV 44<br />
**{{NoCo|Es ist und bleibt Christen Trost, BWV 44, No. 6|#6 - Es ist und bleibt Christen Trost (Aria S solo)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach44 {{net}}] )<br />
<br />
* {{Bach|140|Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme|post}}<br />
<br />
*Wachet, betet, seid bereit allezeit<br />
**{{NoCo|Freu dich sehr, o meine Seele|#7 - Freu dich sehr, o meine Seele}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
<br />
*Was mir behagt, ist nur die muntre Jagd, BWV 208 (Hunting Cantata) secular<br />
**{{NoCo|Schafe können sicher weiden (Sheep may safely graze)|#9 - Schafe können sicher weiden (Aria S solo)}} {{LLinkW|bach-she.pdf||bach-she.xml|XML}} ( [{{filepath:Bach-she.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
<br />
*{{Bach|12|Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen|post}}<br />
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*{{NoCo|Wer weiss wie nahe mir mein ende}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_-_Wer_weiss,_wie_nahe_mir_mein_Ende.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
<br />
* {{Bach|54|Widerstehe doch der Sünde|post}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV054-V&P.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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* {{Bach|1|Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern|post}}<br />
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*Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29<br />
**{{NoCo|Sinfonia from Cantata No. 29|#1 - Sinfonia}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach29 {{net}}] )<br />
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===Chorale Harmonizations (BWV 250-BWV 438)===<br />
*{{NoCo|185 Bach Chorales}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-254a.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254b.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254c.pdf}} {{LLinkW|bwv-254d.pdf}} ''split into 4 files: A-Ein, Eins-Jesu der du meine Seele, Jesu der du meine Seele-O Mensch, O Traurigkeit- ''<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach bleib' bei uns, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 253}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, erhör mein Seufzen und Wehklagen, BWV 254}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott und Herr, wie gross und schwer (Chorale)|Ach Gott und Herr, wie gross und schwer, BWV 255}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach1.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach1.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach, was soll ich Sünder machen (Chorale)|Ach, was soll ich Sünder machen, BWV 259}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-ach8.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-ach8.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Alle Menschen müssen sterben (Chorale)|Alle Menschen müssen sterben, BWV 262}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-allm.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-allm.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale)|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr', BWV 260}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ (Chorale)|Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 261}} ( [{{filepath:Bwv-allz.pdf}} {{pdf}}] ){{LLinkW||bwv-allz.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Als Jesus Christus in der Nacht, BWV 265|Als Jesus Christus in der Nacht, BWV 265}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.pdf|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.mid|Bach_Als_Jesus_Christus_in_der_Nacht.cap|Capella}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Aus meines Herzens Grunde, BWV 269}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Befiehl du deine Wege, BWV 272}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/befiehl_du_deine_wege/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bekennen will ich seinen Namen, BWV 200}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#bach200 {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ, der du bist der helle Tag|Christ, der du bist der helle Tag, BWV 273}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/christus_der_du_bist/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale)|Christ ist erstanden, BWV 276}} &nbsp; ''several editions available.''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ lag in Todesbanden}} all 4 harmonizations<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 280|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 280}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chr7.pdf|bwv-chr7.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der ist mein Leben (Chorale)|Christus, der ist mein Leben, BWV 281}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chrs.pdf|bwv-chrs.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale)|Christus, der uns selig macht, BWV 283}} {{LLinkW|bwv-chs2.pdf|bwv-chs2.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gott, der du selber bist das Licht, BWV 316}} &nbsp; {{LLink|BWV_316.pdf|BWV_316.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Da der Herr Christ zu Tische sass (Chorale)|Da der Herr Christ zu Tische sass, BWV 285}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dade.pdf|bwv-dade.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei Gott in der Höhe (Chorale)|Dank sei Gott in der Höhe, BWV 287}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dan2.pdf|bwv-dan2.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Danket dem Herren, denn er ist freundlich (Chorale)|Danket dem Herren, denn er ist freundlich, BWV 286}} {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Das alte Jahr vergangen ist (Chorale)|Das alte Jahr vergangen ist, BWV 288}} {{LLinkW|bwv-dasa.pdf|bwv-dasa.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Die Sonn hat sich|Die Sonn hat sich, BWV 297}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dir, dir Jehova|Dir dir Jehova, BWV 299}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/dir_dir_jehova/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ein Lämmlein geht und trägt die Schuld, BWV 267}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gib dich zufrieden und sei stille|Gib dich zufrieden und sei stille, BWV 315}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Gib_dich_zufrieden.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Heut triumphieret Gottes Sohn|Heut triumphieret Gottes Sohn, BWV 342}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich hab mein Sach|Ich hab mein Sach, BWV 351}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/ich_hab_mein_sach/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|In dulci jubilo|In dulci jubilo, BWV 368}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, Jesu, du bist mein, BWV 357}} {{LLink|Bach-jesu_jesu.pdf|Bach-jesu_jesu.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, nun sei gepreiset, BWV 362|Jesu, nun sei gepreiset, BWV 362}} {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Nun_komm.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Nun_komm.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Nun_komm.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Warum sollt ich mich denn grämen BWV 422}} English only<br />
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===Comparative Editions (Chorales with different harmonizations)===<br />
<br />
*{{NoCo|Chorals of the German Organ Mass (Clavier Übung III)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/node/408 {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh' darein (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 2, BWV 77 and BWV 153''<br />
*{{NoCo|Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid (Chorale)}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 3 and BWV 153''<br />
*{{NoCo|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale)|Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr' (Chorale) BWV 260}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 104 and BWV 112''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale)|Christ ist erstanden (Chorale) BWV 276}} &nbsp; ''4 editions of other harmonizations.<br />
*{{NoCo|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam (Chorale)|Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam (Chorale) BWV 280}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in Cantatas BWV 7 and BWV 176''<br />
*{{NoCo|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale)|Christus, der uns selig macht (Chorale) BWV 283}} &nbsp; ''Harmonizations used in BWV 245''<br />
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===Other works===<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Der Geist hilft unsrer Schwachheit auf|Der Geist hilft unser Schwachheit auf, BWV 226}} {{LLinkW|bach-226.pdf|bach-226.mid|bach-226.zip|Finale 2000}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Freut euch und jubiliert|Freut euch und jubiliert, BWV 243a}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Fürchte dich nicht (BWV 228)}} {{LLinkW|bach-228.pdf}} [{{filepath:Bach-228.mid}} {{mid}}]<br />
*{{NoCo|Gelobet sei der Herr}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo|Gloria in excelsis Deo, BWV 243a, #c}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Ich esse mit Freuden mein weniges Brot.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich lasse dich nicht, du segnest mich denn}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier, BWV 469}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227}} &nbsp; ''complete edition and separate movements''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu, Jesu, du bist mein, BWV 470}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|Bach-jes.pdf|Bach-jes.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesus meine Zuversicht}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/jesus_meine_zuversicht/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, Gott Schöpfer}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/komm_gott_schoepfer/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, heiliger Geist, Herre Gott BWV 226}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Komm, süsser Tod}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bach-kom.pdf|bach-kom.mid|bach-kom.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobe den Herren}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/lobe_den_herren/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet den Herrn, BWV 230}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bach-230.pdf|bach-230.mid|bach-230.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Magnificat|Magnificat, BWV 243}} &nbsp; ''2 editions available (full score and piano-vocal)''<br />
*{{NoCo|Mass in B minor, BWV 232}} &nbsp; ''several editions available, separate movements''<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in F}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|hoessl-orch}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in G BWV236}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|hoessl-orch}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in g minor, BWV 235}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Missa in A}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Mein gläubiges Herze}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/bach-mein-glaubiges-herze/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Nun bitten wir den heiligen Geist}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_bitten_wir/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun danket alle Gott}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun hilf uns, Herr, den Dienern dein}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun preiset alle}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_preiset_alle/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nun sich der Tag}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/nun_sich_der_tag/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Caput Cruentatum}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach - O caput cruentatum (ed. Angelini).pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_-_O_caput_cruentatum_(ed._Angelini).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Jesulein süß}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig, BWV 401}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Mensch, bewein' dein' Sünde groß, BWV 402}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Psallite Deo nostro in laetitia (sicut locutus est from Magnificat)}} {{LLinkW|bach-psa.pdf|bach-psa.mid|bach-psa.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Round me falls the night}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Round_me_falls_the_night_Bach.capx}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Saget mir geschwinde}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Bach_saget.pdf|Bach_saget.mid|Bach_saget.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus, BWV 325}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-325b.pdf}} [{{filepath:Bwv-325b.mid}} {{mid}}]<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in C, BWV 237}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Sanctus_In_C.pdf|Sanctus_In_C.mid|A_Fairy_Town.sib|Sibelius 4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in D BWV 238}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sanctus in D minor BWV 239}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sei Lob und Preis mit Ehren}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/node/459 {{pdf}}] [http://lilymusic.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/bach/bwv-231-satb.ly {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Singen wir aus Herzensgrund}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Singet dem Herrn}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|bwv-225.pdf|bwv-225.mid|bwv-225.zip|LilyPond}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Sollt ich meinem Gott nicht singen}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/bachchoraele/sollt_ich/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|St John Passion, BWV 245}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|St Matthew Passion, BWV 244}} &nbsp; ''Choral parts only''.<br />
*{{NoCo|Van 't vroeglicht van de dageraad, BWV 121}} &nbsp; {{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vergiss mein nicht}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Verleih' uns Frieden gnädiglich}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_a}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wach auf, mein Herz, und singe}} {{LLinkW|bach-79f.pdf|bach-79f.mid|bach-79f.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan}} {{LLinkW|wasgott.pdf||wasgott.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Wer nur den lieben Gott läßt walten}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Wir Christenleut'}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
<br />
===Editions with texts translated to other languages===<br />
<br />
*{{NoCo|Ah Lord when my last end is come|Ah Lord when my last end is come}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?2.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|All glory, laud and honour}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?3.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|All my heart this night rejoices}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Behold! in lowly manger stall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|mather}}/cd/index.shtml?55.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Credo in unum Deum}}{{LLinkW|bach-cre.pdf|bach-cre.mid|bach-cre.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Discendi Santo Spirito}}{{LLinkW|bach-dis.pdf|bach-dis.mid|bach-dis.zip|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Ein Kind geborn zu Bethlehem}}{{LnkWeb|xmassongbook}}&nbsp;''English translation of BWV 65, #2''<br />
*{{NoComp|Lodate Dio}} (Italian version of 'Lobet den Herrn') &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Now Blessed be Thou, Christ Jesu}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Now join we all to praise Thee, BWV 362}}{{LnkWeb|freesheetmusic}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Now let us to the bagpipe' sound (from 'Peasant Cantata')}} {{LnkWeb|chorusrehearsal}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O hail this brightest day of days}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O Jesulein süß|O Little Sweet (English translation of Jesulein süß)}} {{LLinkW|bach-oj2.pdf|bach-oje.mid|bach-oj2.mus|Finale 2001}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Oratório de Natal|Oratório de Natal}} (Portuguese version of Christmas Oratory) &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_Oratório_de_Natal_Part_I.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )[http://oratoriodenatal.blogspot.com.br/]<br />
*{{NoComp|Rejoice ye Heavens}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?34.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Señor, tu que eres bueno}}{{LnkWeb|cantoral}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Signore dolce volto}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|olivieri}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|We Christians may rejoice}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
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===Vocal Arrangements based on Bach's works===<br />
<br />
*{{NoComp|Aria de la Suite No. 3}}{{LLinkW|astor-ag.pdf|astor-ag.mid|astor-ag.mus|Finale 2003}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Bach's Christmas Carol}} &nbsp; ( [http://websights.org/bachcarol/NPoole_BachCarol.pdf {{extpdf}}] [http://websights.org/bachcarol/bachcarol.mp3 {{extmp3}}] [http://websights.org/bachcarol/bachcarol.mid {{extmid}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Come, let us all this day, BWV 479}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Bach_-_Come,_let_us_all_this_day_(BWV479).pdf }} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_-_Come,_let_us_all_this_day_(BWV479).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Dona nobis pacem}} (Arrangement from the Prelude in C) &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Haec Tibi dona pura|Johann Sebastian Bach (mel.)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|HaecTibi.pdf|HaecTibi.mid|HaecTibi.enc|Encore}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Gottes Sohn ist kommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}kleine_kantorei_cappella_piccola/gottes_sohn_ist_kommen/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier|Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier, BWV 469}} &nbsp; ''2 editions available (choral arrangements)''<br />
*{{NoCo|Jesu deine Liebeswunden|Jesu deine Liebeswunden, BWV 471}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}J.S.Bach.php#JesuDeineLiebeswunden {{net}}] ) (Choral arrangement)<br />
*{{NoCo|Kommt, Seelen, dieser Tag, BWV 479}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.midi}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:BWV479_A_Mend.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoComp|Ode to the Seasons (and to Change)}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.evatoller.se/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O sacred head}} (from St. Mattäus-Passion, nrs. 15/17 and nr. 54) ( [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:JSBach_OHaupt.capx}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spiritus Domini}} &nbsp; (Arrangement of fugue nr.9 from WTC II BWV 878) ( [{{filepath:Bach_Spiritus_Domini.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Bach_Spiritus_Domini.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Spiritus_domini_bach.ly}} {{ly}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wachet auf!}} &nbsp; (Bach's harmonisation plus 2 varied verses by Robin Doveton) ( [http://dovetonmusic.com/Cat_Carols.html {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Veni Sancte Spiritus}} [http://www.pandolfopaolo.com/?attachment_id=617 {{pdf}}] from Die Kunst der Fuge BWV 1080 transcription and adaptation by Paolo Pandolfo http://www.pandolfopaolo.com<br />
<br />
===Misattributed works===<br />
*{{NoComp|Aperite Portas}} ''(misattributed)'' &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Aperite portas (ed. Angelini).pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Aperite_portas_(ed._Angelini).mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
*[[Bist du bei mir (Gottfried Heinrich Stölzel)|Bist du bei mir BWV 508 (Gottfried Heinrich Stölzel)]] &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*[[St. Luke Passion, BWV 246 (Anonymous)]]<br />
{{Whatlinkshere}}<br />
<br />
== Recordings of interest ==<br />
'''Bach: Cantatas for alto'''<br />
*Performer: Andreas Scholl, Marcel Ponseele, Markus Markl<br />
*Orchestra: Collegium Vocale Orchestra<br />
*Audio CD (October 12, 1999);1 Disc<br />
*Label: Harmonia Mundi Fr.<br />
<br />
==External links==<br />
* [http://www.jsbach.org/ Johann Sebastian Bach Home Page]<br />
*[http://www.bach-digital.de/content/below/index.xml?XSL.lastPage.SESSION=/content/below/index.xml JSB's autograph scores] at Bach Digital<br />
* [http://bach-cantatas.com/Scores Bach Cantatas Website]: Free PDF vocal scores to nearly every Bach cantata<br />
* The [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Bach%2C_Johann_Sebastian BGA-edition piece by piece] (in PDF) on the site of the [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Main_Page International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP)] <br />
* The (almost) [http://notes.tarakanov.net/bachpss.htm complete BGA] in PDF (complete books) - Russian site<br />
* [http://scores.ccarh.org/bach/ Parts for BWV 11, 43, 48, 213, 232 and complete Chorales] at CCARH<br />
* [http://www.music.qub.ac.uk/~tomita/bachbib Johann Sebastian Bach bibliography]<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod (BWV 82-5)''<br><br />
{{Composer|Johann Sebastian Bach}}<br />
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{{Genre|Sacred|Cantatas}}<br />
{{Language|German}}<br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
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[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:Bach_ich_freue_mich_auf_meinem_tod.capx&diff=593933File:Bach ich freue mich auf meinem tod.capx2016-01-30T00:31:44Z<p>Tulipo petressian: </p>
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<div></div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Richard_Mix&diff=593451User talk:Richard Mix2016-01-27T11:53:07Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* work titles in quotes */</p>
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<div>==Problems submitting a score==<br />
Hi, I'm struggling to learn the ropes here. After a few abortive attempts at "Add scores to CPDL" I found one file under my contributions page: [[Image:Gaudeamus Battistini.pdf]] and have made an article page for it. <small>—The preceding [[ChoralWiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Richard Mix|Sparafucil]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richard Mix|contribs]]) on 18:16, 15 January 2008.</small><br />
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:Hi there. Welcome to CPDL and thank you for your edition! I'm sorry to hear that you're having difficulties. I've just created the [[Giacomo Battistini|composer page]] and added the works entry to it. Please supply the following information and I will format the score page correctly:<br />
:*Your real name<br />
:*The copyright that you are assigning to your edition (the preference is the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]] but you may apply any license to your edition; it would be a good idea to add this information to the bottom of the first page of the PDF too)<br />
:*A MIDI file would be very useful if you are able to create one (not required but useful)<br />
:When you come to your next score submission, please try to follow the score submission guide which I think is very clear. If you're having problems, please leave a message on [[User talk:Bobnotts|my talk page]], noting the part that you're having difficulties with and I will endevour to help. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:58, 15 January 2008 (PST)<br />
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== Beatus vir ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I had to revert your edits made to [[Beatus vir, RV 597 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 597]], because you were inadvertently removing the original info. You probably wanted to edit [[Beatus vir, RV 598 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 598]], right? What probably happened was that you clicked on page RV 598 and was "redirected" to RV 597 without noticing it. When we move a page to another name, the original name automatically receives a "redirect" code to the new page. If that's what happened, tell me and I will copy to RV 598 the edits you made, so that you don't lose what you had already done. Regards -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 21:40, 16 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:Yes, that was it! I thought there was something wrong; thanks for putting it right. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 18:38, 17 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::Hi Richard, here I am again. I'm not sure I understood what you did. The PDFs you uploaded to RV 598 specify on their first pages that they are from RV 597! Is that correct? From what I saw, ''Beatus vir'' RV 597 is in C major, and RV 598 is in B flat major. I think it would be a good idea also to check with the admins if CPDL allows pages hosting only the orchestra parts, without their corresponding vocal parts. -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:52, 19 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::Yes, the two pages now need to be swapped. How did you find the uploaded files? And where should I try contacting the admins (one is Rafael, I assume? I would think it only a matter of time before someone adds choral parts, but... ) tia, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 07:28, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::::Hi Richard, the two pages contents are now swapped, remember your scores are now in RV 597! I found your uploaded files looking at the upload log available at [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] in the left menu. Try asking your questions to admins here: [[ChoralWiki:Sheet music requests and questions]]. Regards! -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:39, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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== Redirects ==<br />
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Hi Richard!<br />
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I'd like to know if there is a reason why you created a redirect to [[When Israel came out of Egypt (William Byrd)|this work]]. If you type these exact words in the search box, the correct page will be the first (and only) to appear, so this redirect seems unnecessary. The same applies to the various Hanacpachap redirects you created. The variant spellings are all inside the works page, so someone searching for any of them should be able to find that work without the need of the redirects. <br />
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Redirects are usefull only in some specific situations, as when we use template <nowiki>{{ChoralWiki}}</nowiki> on Wikipedia to redirect to a page on CPDL and the Wikipedia article title is different from the title at CPDL. Regards —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 16:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Carlos,<br />
:I was only trying to turn a red link at [[Psalm 114]] blue, which is also easily accomplished by adding a first name. Is there a downside to having redirects? The only way I could find [[Hanacpachap]] before was to go to [[Anonymous#H|anonymous and look under H]], which took quite a few extra seconds;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard,<br />
::In fact redirects do increase a little bit the database's workload, since they need to be indexed too; we also have more work when we need to move the target page to a different title; but they are nonetheless useful in many situations. It's strange you couldn't find ''Hanacpachap'': if you try a search with this name the works page shows up. This is what we've been doing when possible: to add composer aliases and composition variant titles in the page text so they can be found easily via the Search tool. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, the only difference between "go" and "search" is the option to create a new page. I still have a WP habit of creating red links in preview mode to see what's there, but will try not to carry it over to CPDL (if you click on the one above you wont get any seach results at all). Shouldn't I have come across mention of this prefered strategy before somewhere? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Text sources ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for adding text sources to score pages. It really helps to make ChoralWiki a truly interlinked website. I had one doubt, though, [[Confitebor tibi Domine (Giovanni Gabrieli)]]. It looks more like parts of [[Psalm 9]] vv.2-3 & 16 to me (though I can't identify the entire text). Do you agree? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Dear Bob, <br>Thanks for the catch! The Vulgate lumps Ps's 9 & 10, so: 9:2-3, (I think you're right about 16), 12, 10:37a. Btw, re JSB I think you meant that it is preferable to have external links from a cpdl page as [[Cantata BWV 131 - Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir (Johann Sebastian Bach)|here]] (I'm looking into the title of bwv 131, often given as Aus der Tiefen). With all the material at bachcantatas.com it might be nice to have a BachCantata template. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about Sibelius 4 exporting to previous versions formats ==<br />
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Hi Richard I saw your question in John Patterson's talk page...Yes Sibelius 4(5 and now 6) gives you the possibility to save files so they can be opened with previous versions of Sibelius...that option is under the menu File and then Export (not "save as")...I hope it was helpful...[[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 02:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, it's only in Sib3 that it's under "save as SIb2 file". Thanks, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bach Cantatas ==<br />
:''(The other half of the conversation is [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Saniakob&oldid=214153 here])''<br />
Hi Richard, you are right...the reasons why I did that is because of organizational purposes...The page is still "under construction"...there are many things to fix...So for the moment I am ordering editions...and creating sections (like Cantatas, Chorales so on) to put things in order...once all editions are ordered I will work on each section....So far, the cantatas which have a page including all pieces are those which are complete...Cantatas which have only some pieces in CPDL are given as titles with the corresponding editions listed below...I pretend to change that in the future, but for now that is the criterion...Thanks for the suggestion and comment!![[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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My apologies Richard, now I see, your edition is of Movement 1 and I listed it in Movement 7 page...my mistake... There is a problem on making a page for the whole cantata when there are available only 2 Movements.If you see CPDL requires that the number of editions available must be mentioned...the cantatas which are complete and have editions of independent movements mention this "full score and independent movements" (or similar text). It is impossible to mention which movements are included in each page; it is note possible to write "some movements available" or to mention each movement next to the Cantata title. For clarity, the movements available are listed under the Cantata tile...This criterion is used in all CPDL pages, or at least is what I have been told by Admins...CPDL manager also added some templates to be used for the Cantatas section and did not object how things were, so I assume things are correctly organized... Regarding, languages and other mistakes on the edition pages... I will correct that in a near future, I am checking page by page...and taking notes on what needs to be fixed....For the moment, all of my time goes on finding the corresponding BWV catalog number for each entry on the page and checking if they are missatributions, translations or other stuff, as well as sending each edition to its corresponding section within the page...Regarding your suggestion of opening another Bach project in CPDL...I can't answer that...I think an Admin will give you a proper reply...Thanks again - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The discussion you mention is about merging pieces which are the same piece but with different titles translated to other languages. I will ask you please to stop changing things at the page. If you were concerned with Bach page you could have adopted it before. I took it and CPDL admins know about it. I appreciate your concern but undoing my work doesn't help. Since CPDL was created Bach page is a mess...and things are much ordered now. Please respect my decisions about the page management, there is 1 volunteer per page and with Bach page it happens to be me...If you have a complain direct it to the admins...I wouldn't like to report you for interfering because I know you try to help, but this is not the right way. Please be patient, things can't be fixed in 2 days, actually, I am volunteering since one month ago and there is a lot to do and the time I could use to improve the page I am spending undoing your changes because you don't respect my position as volunteer with the page. - Thanks [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 20:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Never mind. I step out. I am no longer volunteering with this page. Feel free to take the position, it is available.<br />
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Here is my reply to your comment in [[User_talk:CHGiffen#Bach_Cantatas|Mr. Giffen's talk page]]....<p>"I stepped out. I am no longer volunteering. Offer the position of volunteering with Bach Page to Mr. Mix who thinks he can do a much better job than me...I wish he would have made something when no one was maintaining the page for years and not just now when someone else started doing the job. I worked for 10 years as manager and copyist of a music repository at a university and I thought I knew some stuff of the trade...but I guess I was wrong. Besides, you modified things in the page (adding the templates for the cantatas) and you didn't told me anything about my way of organizing things...just now when I have this discussion you tell me about CPDL rules and make me look like a fool when I try to defend my point of view with Mr. Mix. Finally, If I did not read wrong, the Adopt a composer program states clearly that there is 1 volunteer per page...so "collaborative work" as Mr. Mix call it doesn't apply for some things...like changing things at will... I understand collaborative work is teaching people how to make a submission to CPDL correctly (which I did) because the information given by the site is confusing....or translating pages to other languages to make CPDL more accessible to everyone (which I also did)... I know perfectly what collaborative work is. I am a professional with enough experience in my field and I won't work under this conditions. Perhaps I misunderstood what CPDL was about...if that's the case then I am to blame. Thank you."</p><br />
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Things are exactly as they were before I took Bach page...so you can start the work in the way you love most...Best Regards - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 17:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Failed contributions==<br />
Hi Richard. You tried to contribute editions of two Mendelssohn pieces to CPDL on 21st July but I can't locate any files for these editions. Could you point me in the right direction, please? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sure- on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090724002639&target=Richard+Mix my contributions page] I still see: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).sib and http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).pdf on the page [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]], as well as two more files up at [[Im Wald. Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]]. Thanks, and hope I havnt unwittingly made anything harder. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry - my mistake. I found the page [[Im Walde, Op. 41, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] linked from the [[Mendelssohn]] page and when I didn't see your edition listed, I got confused! Nothing wrong with [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] but [[Im Wald Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] was missing a catalogue number and wasn't linked to from the main [[Mendelssohn]] page. I've fixed both of those things now. Thanks --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Sacred feasts ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for improving the texts of those categories, I never imagined this subject could be so complex :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 18:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Salve Regina]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your work on this page. You'll see that I moved the external link you added to under the "external links" section. I feel that we need to draw the line somewhere, otherwise people would add any vaugely relevant links to the settings list and clutter it up. I hope that's ok with you. <br />
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Also, you asked: "should all voicings redirect as SATB does?" in an edit summary for the page. Firstly, please don't use edit summaries to ask question - they should be used to give a brief summary of the edit and nothing else. The best place to ask questions is on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums]. To answer your question, though, there's no strict rule for redirects but generally I'd say that [[SATB]] is only a redirect because it's a voicing that's used so frequently. To add links to categories quickly (without categorising the page in the category), use the "CiteCat" template, like this: <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|SSATB}}</nowiki></tt>. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 15:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Text page links ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for all your help lately! Just thought I'd mention one thing: when you add a link to a text page from a score page, such as on [[Ave Maria, Op. 23, No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] and [[Laudate Dominum omnes gentes, III (Claudio Monteverdi)]], please try to remember to also update the text page to link back to the score page. That way, someone looking for a particular text can find all the settings of it on CW (in theory!) I've just updated the text pages for those score pages. I know it's easy to forget sometimes. Thanks again. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 12:16, 26 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Declare his honour - Henry Purcell ==<br />
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I hope I'm adding comments to the correct page, since it's not enirely obvious how one contacts people in Choral Wiki<br />
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With regard to my reformatting of the Fowler version of this, bar 75 should have read bar 74 (and the last note of bar 73), where the bass part seems to have been transposed down by a 6th. (This is fairly obvious when you play it back. It also corresponds with bar 247 of the Callon version of O sing unto the Lord). The same transposition seems to have occurred in the bass accompaniment in bar 76.<br />
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I have corrected these (and taken the liberty of removing your error message at the same time!) I've also uploaded new versions of the .pdf, .mid and .cap files.<br />
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I've found some oddities when uploading new versions of files. Although I uploaded a revised version of the .pdf file on 7th February, the file that was there when I opened it today appeared to be the original version. I have uploaded a new version and that seems now to be the version in Choral Wiki. However, the .cap file I uploaded at the same time seems not to have been uploaded, since it is still the old file which opens.<br />
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On the question of combining this with O sing unto the Lord, that is obviously a sensible move. However, from the point of view of practical use for singers, I don't think most choirs would make much use of the full version, so I would suggest there should still be a link on the Purcell main page for "Declare his honour", which redirects to "O sing unto the Lord"<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Welcome! A lot of useful discussion does happen on user talk pages; there are also the CPDL fora, which confusingly require a separate login even if you use the same name and password. If it's alright with you though, I'll copy the Purcell-specific discussion to [[Talk:O sing unto the Lord (Henry Purcell)]].<br />
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:Thanks for the corrections and clarifications! I'm not sure about the oddities yet, but will have another look, and add the error report to Fowler. <br />
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:I agree about the redirect in case anyone searches under "D". This is handled by turning subpage Declare His Honor (Henry Purcell) into a redirect. It isnt necessary to have the file in two places, as with the redundant Agnus Dei (Marc-Antoine Charpentier): here I think even a redirect to [[Messe de Minuit pour Noël (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)]] is unneeded. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gaudeamus omnes (Giacomo Battistini)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. [[User:Sparafucil]] once uploaded an edition of the work above, but the name in the score is yours! Was Sparafucil an old account you were using before registering as Richard Mix? Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I'd forgotten. Can you delete the account? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Better yet, I've merged the old account into the new one, to unify your contributions. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Motets ==<br />
Hi Richard, I've noticed you 'depopulated' the liturgical music cat in favour of 'motet' on one of my contributions. As you may have noticed, there is a discussion on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4853 forums] about this issue, as yet without decisive outcome. In the case of Mondondone's "Deus in adiutorium", I disagree with your categorisation - it is an office versicle with a clear an unequivocal functional role, pretty much unimaginable in any other context. As for the stylistic issues, those remain to be debated, as you can see on the forums. Would you consider contributing to the discussion? [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 13:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you for the pointer! I'll try to sort it out what I think... I suppose though we're not in disagreement that category:Office versicles would ultimately be more easily searchable than "liturgical music"? In the meantime, we could make a [[Deus in ajutorium]] textpage (maybe just a redirect to a sub-section of [[Psalm 70]]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Psalms ==<br />
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Richard, not sure if I'm doing this the right way, since it doesn't seem immediately intuitive how to reply to comments from someone.<br />
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I suppose the psalm chants I've been adding are an anthology, in the sense that they are the ones we generally use in the choir that I belong to. The only reason that I've set them is Capella is that I got tired of illegible photocopies of words and music. Capella isn't brilliant at handling words if they are not set as lyrics under the notes, so I add the relevant text from a Word file and print the same page twice, once with the chant and once with the text. However, as I only do this when a new psalm comes to be sung, the set is not complete. <br />
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I'm not clear how (or where) I should put them if they were to be presented as an anthology. Would they still appear on the composer pages, but just with a different title?<br />
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On the small "c" for chant issue, I've been puzzled by why the link still appeared in red when I added a score, so that explains it. I haven't typed it in with an upper case C; that's provided by the dropdown list from "Add scores to CPDL". I'll correct by hand for the moment, but it might be useful if someone could alter the dropdown list eventually, to eliminate the problem automatically.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:52, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi James, seems right enough to me. There is a confusing choice of venues around cpdl, and a lot gets done on usertalk pages like this. I raised the dropdown bug at the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4935 operation & implementation] forum (these require a second login and password) and it may be fixed already. I also proposed hashing out psalm naming conventions on the [[Category talk:Anglican chants|category talk page]]; maybe we'll be joined by others. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Praeter rerum seriem ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I have to take exception with your designation of the [[Praeter rerum seriem (Anonymous)]] as being a Gregorian chant source rather than simply Anonymous. If you'll examint the setting, you'll see that it is a triple rhythm tune that is wholly inconsistent with being Gregorian chant, in spite of the text being a Marian sequence. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Charles! Maybe we differ on a definition of "Gregorian" rather than the particulars of the piece. Rhythmisized chant is squarely in that tradition, if I may so speak, and one may consider the long-short ''[[Of the Father's love begotten (Anonymous)|Divinum mysterium)]]'' to be the same piece as the unmeasured notation. <br />
:But I may just be confused about the 'original' ''Praeter rerum''. On a casual inspection, it looks like a Gregorian chant has been used as a tenor by Josquin, and that it differs in a few pitch details (second note, strain 2, and a few extra notes) from a chant book version, which can be adjusted to Josquin's rhythm. Does a different Gregorian melody exist? And did you have a mensural source for what the page calls "the Latin hymn"? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franz Schubert - Fünf Duette ==<br />
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Good morning Richard. Thank you for the cleaning of the Fünf Duette page. The problem i had with the newline character seems solved now. I can continue editing. [[User:BenZene|BenZene]] 08:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vidi aquam confusion ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I basically reverted your edits to [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]], since I think you didn't check the PDFs for the two recently posted scores. Each of these postings consists of THREE settings of Vidi aquam (so perhaps calling them I and II is a bit confusing). At any rate, (I) contains the three settings (all 3-part) from tr93 (pages 5v-6r, 6v-7r, 7v-8r), and (II) contains three settings (only the middle one is 4-part) from tr88 (pp 223v-224r) and tr89 (pp 228v-229r and 229v-230r). Only the first tr89 (pp 228v-229r) is 4-part.<br />
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I checked the pdf for [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]] but not looking at [[Vidi aquam I (Anonymous)]] misconstrued it as a separate work page for what I guess is Vidi aquam 5 [or maybe IIb?] (Anonymous). Thanks for the catch, and I hope you add the foliation info! Do you agree that there's something a bit wrong with the page names and that perhaps a merge if not a split is in order? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Given the way in which the 6 settings of Vidi aquam have been published here in two groups of three each, I'm tempted to suggest that they be merged onto one page, perhaps titled something like<br />
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Makes perfect sense to me. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 08:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Also for me. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== La cieca (Giovanni Ghizzolo) ==<br />
Richard, I'm not quite sure the canges you applied to the voicing cat on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/La_cieca_%28Giovanni_Ghizzolo%29 this] page are for the better. Any user interested in this sort of repertoire is unlikely to search for "Amarilli" as a solo voice type, is he? Besides, to the best of my knowledge, this change would make it one of the few (if any) pages where voicing information is mixed with/replaced by content. I'm not sure that labelling, say, Bach's Matthew Passion as containing "Christ" instead of "bass solo" would be the way to move forward. Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 15:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, The names of course are "piped" and link to Category:Solo Soprano and Category:Solo Tenor. I found the former ST choir designation more confusing myself; now I hope it is clear that the chorus is SSB and the other movements are dialogues for male & female soloists, but maybe you devise something better. Btw, thanks for the [[Mnogaya lyeta (Traditional)]] lyrics! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Voicing for [[I will worship towards thy holy temple (Arthur Sullivan)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I rolled back your voicing change. I'm not sure about the separate choir specification, but, if you look at mm 104-126, you'll see that at least 7 different voices are required (albeit at most 6 sing at any one time). Because of the way the score is laid out, I'm inclined to leave the two-choir voicing (rather than 7vv SSATTBB). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see what you mean. The layout implies choir two SA & TB each in unison. I dont suppose we can have 6|SATB.SATB, which would be my prefered version ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 03:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Say, Watchman, What of the Night? (Arthur Sullivan)|Say, watchman, what of the night?]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your comments, Richard. I think it almost certain that Sullivan, as an accomplished organist, would have specified organ accompaniment for a sacred work, so I must have had my mind not properly in gear to specify something else when entering the details! I've corrected the missing note in the accompaniment of bar 19 and also spotted a couple of misdirected tails, which didn't get automatically changed when I transposed it up a tone in Capella. I've reloaded updated versions of the files.<br />
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The small notes in the accompaniment are not intended to indicate rehearsal only. It's just that, by making the accompaniment small, I can get three systems on an A4 page in Capella in a readable form. (You can probably guess from this that I am a singer, rather than a keyboard player!) If the original indicates "for rehearsal only", I generally make this explicit.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah well, organists are expected to do the superhuman anyway: in this case to transpose a half step while the choir has the convenience of reading in one flat. This must have been before transposer knobs. I must say your version in G raises the bar for the minor mode passages! ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The way is long and dreary ==<br />
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(A title that makes you frantic to sing the piece!) When I was playing this back before submitting it this morning, parts of it sounded vaguely familiar. In fact, the Douglas Walczak Agnus Dei is an extract from this longer anthem, removing the Adelaide Procter bits. So I think they should somehow be linked, but have no idea how to do it myself. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 11:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I was going to wade in here and suggest putting a "See also:" (or "Also see:") item at the end of the "Music files" section for each work, with links between the two works pages (and even do it myself as an example as to illustrate how to do this in the future) &ndash; until I realized that we don't have the Walczak ''Agnus Dei'' at {{CW}}! So, instead, I would suggest simply adding a note in the "Description:" section in the Sullivan about the Walczak piece. There are several examples of the "See also:" usage &ndash; one at [[Advent Anthem (The Advent moon shines cold and clear) (Douglas Brooks-Davies)|''Advent Anthem'']] by [[Douglas Brooks-Davies]] interlinking with my own [[This Advent moon (Charles H. Giffen)|''This Advent moon'']] (which is why I know of the technique). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 12:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: Great idea Chuck, but wouldnt it logically go under '''General information;'''? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hassler Ave maris stella ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I really don't understand your instance on duplicating information in the Edition notes for both editions that is descriptive of the work and not of the editions. I already moved the fact that the chant (and cantus firmus) is mixolydian to the Description section. Moreover, there is no musical difference between the editions: indeed, the polyphony is the same for all three even verses. It just so happens that the Kelecom edition reproduces the music three times, once for each odd verse chant and once for each verse polyphony, while the earlier edition uses the more economical route of providing the chant and polyphony once, with the verses underlaid threefold. As for the question whether the music is transposed (or not) and because both editions share the same fate on this issue, my preference in such situation at CPDL is to leave the matter of announcing "F miixolydian" in the two editions out, until such time as we have sure knowledge of any transposition from the original work (Hassler was not above transposed modes in other works). Elsewhere, when there are more than one edition transposed to the same key (along with the original or other transpositions), we usually group editions with the same transposition under a single heading, such as with [[If ye love me (Thomas Tallis)]]. With this in mind, I hope you will reconsider what amounts to a restoration of your previous edits as an addition after my own edit (which was an attempt to avoid redundancy). I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Chuck! I'm not sure ''If ye love me'' is typical in this regard, though it is a clever solution. If there is no 'redundancy', it's not even clear the editions are at the same pitch, and we have to assume the general info has the correct original key. Thanks for prodding me, though: I'm beginning a long download of DdT to see what can be found there... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: Hi again Richard. Both editions are indeed "at the same pitch", 2 flats in the k.s., cantus firmus beginning on F, note values apparently halved from the original (pretty common). I do note that the Kelecom edition leaves off the 7th verse (chant, missed that previously). I'd be interested to learn what the DdT download turns up. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::...and the piece is in neither ''Cantiones Sacrae'' nor ''Sacri Concentus''. A search in Grove only gets hits for soAVE and bellAVEre, so I guess we're dealing with a contrafactum. Assuming something else turns up, do we replace the edition notes "in F mixolydian" with "original key" both times? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Palestrina Mags ==<br />
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Dear Richard,<br />
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Many thanks for your clarifications and alterations concerning the tricky question of Palestrina Magnificat settings - what you've done now is an immensurably better state of affairs than was in place before - many thanks indeed! Hopefully other people will latch on to the new system and either style their editions with the new clarification system or leave the editions in question open to clarification by contributors such as yourself. Unless I'm being thick, is it the case that there are multiple sections/chapters within the Magnificat octo tonum liber primus (Rome, 1591) publication (although bearing in mind the other Magnificats which were unpublished in 1591 and remain in manuscript form (although transcribed by haberl))? There was only this one publication, according to Grove, and I am unaware of any others. How is the 'book' system that you use set up? I am aware of the division of Haberl's volume into sections, but I can't remember how. Are you able to shed any light on this?<br />
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Re: Lassus Mags, if you're happy to send me facsimiles of Haberl, then I'll happily transcribe them! :-)<br />
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Also, on your own user page, you might want to update the number of scores you've contributed from 1 to the relevant number larger than 1. I wish this acted as a little counter and updated itself!<br />
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Best wishes,<br><br />
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:I was just going by [http://imslp.org/wiki/XXXV_Magnificat_(Palestrina,_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da)], of which the first part is the 1591 "liber primus" (divided into odd and even), but I see that [http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da_Palestrina] doesnt list the subsequent 'liber's! I'll try downloading the forward to see if they had title pages... <br />
:... Ouf, my poor Latin, but Haberl's own Book Two title page clears things up a little: ''Magnificat octotonum quaternis vocibus. (liber secundus.) auctore Petraloysio Praestino nunc primum ex codice cappelae juliae ad S. Petrum Romae in partitionem redigit et edidit Fr. Xav. Haberl.'' A first edition! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Avoiding overcounting your editions ==<br />
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Hi Richard. The "Whatlinkshere" template does indeed overcount editions, because it provides a list of pages with links of any kind (not just links from Sheet music pages generated by the Editor template). That is why I created the "<EditorName> editions" categories. Replacing <tt><nowiki>{{Whatlinkshere}}</nowiki></tt> oh your User page with <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}</nowiki></tt> will solve the problem. Be aware that this will undercount your editions if you have more than one edition listed on a given works page. But at least it provides a shorter list to check (if you suspect you have duplications, as I do). Best wishe. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 22:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm still a little confused- There must be something missing from the template syntax {{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}, since [[:Category:Richard Mix editions]] is a blue link... Got it now, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: My bad... there should be a "|" after CiteCat, not a ":" ... sorry! I corrected the citation in my previous post above. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Missa quinque vocum (Mogens Pedersøn)]] ==<br />
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I think you were right in your edit summary, Richard, so I have returned the layout to a single edition incorporating all the assigned catalogue numbers in the edition notes as before. I came to this conclusion mainly because it is the same score link for all the movements. Feel free to revert. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 06:24, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OT post-Pentecost blunder ==<br />
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Hi Richard. You are entirely right - after I swapped Pentecost IX and X, I realized that you were problably right in putting X before IX for precisely the reason you gave in your edit summary. I hope you like the appearance of the wikitable format better, though. I'll make another pass through the Sundays after Pentecost to do a few cleanup and tidying chores, at least when I get a chance! Many thanks for taking on the organization of these liturgical categories. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the tidying, and it's just as well what I've typed in a hurry so far gets double-checked! <br />
:I've always copied code for tables from any old place I stumble across an example, but is there an official help page somewhere? I just noticed that [[Piae Cantiones]] has a sortable list, which might be handy for the [[Ordinary Time]] table. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Verse anthem? ==<br />
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Hi Richard. In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hosanna_to_the_Son_of_David_%28Orlando_Gibbons%29&diff=prev&oldid=259680 this edit], you labelled [[Hosanna to the Son of David (Orlando Gibbons)]] as a verse anthem. I thought I would double check we're agreed on this, as according to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_anthem Wikipedia article] and my limited knowledge on the subject, this surely is not a verse anthem but a full anthem. Was your edit a mistake? I have changed it back, at least for the time being. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You're absolutely right! I think I might have had [[Behold, I bring you glad tidings (Orlando Gibbons)]] on my mind at the time... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jesu, word of God incarnate in The Anthem Book ==<br />
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Regarding your question as to whether this was a version of Gounod's Ave Maria, my mind wasn't properly in gear, because I tend to think of that as Bach-Gounod. The answer is that it definitely isn't that, though I don't know what the original words might have been. I'll get round to submitting it shortly and check whether it matches any of the other Gounod stuff already uploaded.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 23:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:No, [[Talk:The Anthem Book|I meant]] the [[Ave verum corpus|other ''Ave'']] of which JwoGi is the common translation. Btw, I finally brought the Methodists around to Latin by showing them how much better the English fit [[Ave Verum, Op. 2, No. 1 (Edward Elgar)|Elgar's setting]] than the Latin, and then later persuading them that, visa-versa, they didnt really want to sing "Jesu, Worduv, God incarnate" in the Mozart. Iirc, Elgar composed to a different Latin hymn originally, publishing it as Avc later. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yes, clearly my mind wasn't properly in gear when I replied. It is of course Ave Verum Corpus, rather than Ave Maria. I've actually never sung it to the English works, whether Mozart, Elgar or Byrd, so didn't immediately recognise the connection. Interesting about the Elgar being set to different text originally.<br />
I can't open the file under 7 motetten, but the music looks the same as the Ornes version on CPDL. I guess it's probably worth putting it up with English words too. James Gibb<br />
:Nice, a blue link then! Now we just have to [[Talk:Ave verum I (Charles Gounod)|sort out the targent page name]]... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Fuerunt mihi lacrimae (Alfonso Ferrabosco II)|Fuerunt mihi lacrymae]] ==<br />
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Richard, you are quite right to suggest E minor rather than G for the transposed key. Rather too many D sharps for me to contradict you convincingly. I've added the actual allocation of the parts for the SATB version, which seems to chime with the Fowler TTBB allocation, though I've moved one low B in the S up an octave for convenience.<br />
I assume it's your addition of F minor to the Fowler edition, but I think it should be up a minor 2nd, not a minor third, unless you are referring to an edition I have no seen.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 16:06, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
:I'm just guessing that d is a plausible original key, the minor third being a popular transposition for editors of English music. If you based yours on the Fowler, then that would be _down_ a minor second! Maybe better not to speculate; I'd better try to remember take a look next time I'm at the library, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:50, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== 2 cents ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your comments on my talk page. I had decided not to continue replying to the gentleman of very set opinion. Regards, Paul Marchesano [[User:Marchesa|Marchesa]] 20:56, 29 April 2011 (CDT)<br />
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==[[Ewig dein WoO 161 (Ludwig van Beethoven)| "Ewig Dein"]] - Voicing ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for your revision. I'm pretty new on this pages. But in case you decide to perform the canon with mixed choir (for example SST), the voicing isn't equal any more. Is this a problem? [[User:B.peterson|bp]] 08:16, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
:Not for me personally ;-) (A purist within earshot might take issue with the resulting 64 inversions.) <br />
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:But the voicing template doesn't need to foresee every possible performance option: for a cappella works we often list AATBB in the General info. section and let editors add Category:SSATB in their Edition notes, and I see that [[Say, wanton, will you love me? (Thomas Weelkes)]] might be treated this way. Welcome to CPDL, and thanks for your editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:30, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== tidying up duplicate page ==<br />
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Thank you Richard, this was my first submission to CPDL, now I know that when you edit the composer's page first, you get the desired ''Title (Composer)'' suggested. Regards -- [[User:KlausFoehl|KlausFoehl]] 17:29, 16 July 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glen O'Brien) ==<br />
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Thank you Richard for an appropriate page for the arrangement. My name is actually spelt Glenn O'Brien.[[User:Glennobrien|Glennobrien]] 09:42, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
:You're welcome, and very sorry about that! I noticed you already fixed a couple of things, and I've just moved the page to [[Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glenn O'Brien)]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:45, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Magnificat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for the improvements to the page; it makes more sense indeed to have the Latin text come first. I'll see if I can improve it a bit more, putting the remaining translations in two columns. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 09:30, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Thanks for your sharp eyes on the Greek, too; I'll ask another question on [[Talk:Magnificat]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:42, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Carols for Choirs ==<br />
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Hi Richard<br />
I am in the process of spreading sortable tables through the ''…for Choirs'' pages, and came across your suggestion to merge the Carols for Choirs pages ([[Carols for Choirs 1]], 1 Sept, 2011).<br />
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Is [[Carols for Choirs|this]] the sort of thing you had in mind?. Would it make sense to have any discussion about this [[Talk:Carols for Choirs|here]]?<br />
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[[User:Peter Gibson|Peter Gibson]] 07:57, 7 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the note! [[Talk:Carols for Choirs]] indeed makes sense. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:17, 8 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Musica Divina transcriptions ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for the additional information you are adding to the Musica Divina editions I've been transcribing. I would do it myself, if I knew which categories existed!<br />
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I've also noticed that you've added an original pitch and note length version of Lassus's Dextera Domini. As a couple of people have asked that I upload "unaltered" versions as well, my intention is to go back through the stuff I've already uploaded and do just that. (It's relatively easy, since I do the transcription into original clefs and note lengths to minimise transcription mistakes, and only then make any adjustments) I'm certainly not going to duplicate work that you've already done; this is just to let you know that providing originals (with modern clefs) is high up on my to-do list.<br />
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Your email address on your CPDL page appears not to work, by the way, but perhaps I interpreted it too literally.<br />
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:I was just about to write you congratulations and also see if we can better divide up Lassus: I already have on hand a lot of the offertory motets for 4 vv: Benedic anima; Benedicam Dom.; Benedictus es...doce; Confitebor tibi; Dextera Dom.; Dom. convertere; Dom. in auxilium; Dom vivifica me; Exaltabo te; Expectans; Gressus meos; Illumina oculos; Immittet angelus; Improperium; In te speravi; Intende voci; Jubilate Deo; Lauda anima mea; Meditabor, Perfice gressus; Populum humilium; Precatus es; Scapulis suis; Sperunt in te. What a drag that we're using incompatible programs, otherwise we'd have really powerful proofreading tools!<br />
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:Hotmail is what I hope the non-bots will guess, btw. ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Thanks. I'll do a skim through the Lassus that is available on the Musica Divina motets and let you know which ones aren't on your list, or otherwise available on CPDL. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 08:52, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Of the 20 Lassus motets that are in Musica Divina Vol II, the following don't currently appear in CPDL:<br />
:Benedicite Gentes<br />
:Domine in auxilium meum respice<br />
:Factus est Dominus firmamentum<br />
:In te speravi Domine<br />
:Joannes est nomen eius<br />
:Sperent in te omnes<br />
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I think these are all 4-part, but I haven't checked individually. There may be other motet-like things appearing in the other volumes, but I'll check that later. Given that you've already done the 4th and the 6th on the list, and assuming that you have another source anyway, I suggest that I pick the remaining 4, unless you have already started on any of them, Richard.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:12, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Didn't notice that you had included Domine in Auxilium on your list, so I've now uploaded copies of Benedicite Gentes, Factus est Dominus firmamentum and Joannes est nomen eius. I've also uploaded a 4-part version of Eripe me, since the version currently on CPDL is a 3-part one. All at original pitch and note value secundum Proske, although I've also uploaded a transposed version of Eripe me, since it goes so low that only proper basses can get there with any confidence!<br />
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== Incomplete Editions ==<br />
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LOL Richard, it seems we were having similar thoughts, but posted in different places; only after opening a discussion at [[Template talk:IncompleteEdition]] I saw that you had also done it at [[Category talk:Incomplete editions]]. Please check there too! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 19:34, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Done, and point about thin skins taken, though inapplicable to latest new contributor, I trust. Ciao! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:35, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
::Hi, thanks for your comments on the template talk page. I'm still thinking about the various possibilities and will reply you soon. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:47, 21 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Veni sponsa Christi ==<br />
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Good point, Richard. I actually read it as bride, but without thinking of the inappropriate connotations! Incidentally, I've noticed that some of the additions you are making in the form of "Common of..." are coming up red, presumably because the appropriate category page has yet to be created. At the moment, that's rather beyond my job group, though I hope to improve!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 12:14, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
:You're [[Veni Sponsa Christi (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)|not the first]], nor was [[Veni, Sponsa Christi (Peter Philips)|Mick the last]]! I should have remembered the text via Couperin's Motets de Ss Anne & Suzanne. <br />
:Even now the redlinks can be used to see what other pieces are gathered but they should of course be turned blue eventually to standardize {{CiteCat|Common of Virgins}} (correct, according to Palmer/Burgess) vs. {{CiteCat|Common of a Virgin}} (top of my head) and also to be gathered as subcategories of {{CiteCat|Common of Saints}}. Carlos & Chuck were [[Category talk:Sacred music by season|very helpful with Sacred music by season]] and once I refresh my memory I'll have a go at the coding; in the meantime I remain in amazed admiration of your industry in making beautiful editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:44, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Sheppard's [[In manus tuas (John Sheppard)|In manus tuas]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for making the titles uniform. I was thinking that perhaps we could rename all three of them to the usual ''In manus tuas I'', ''II'' and ''III'', what do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 08:32, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Yes, that would be more in line with prevailing practice and I considered it; on the other hand, it suggests that the non-parenthetical roman numeral is part of the original title, or at least a generally accepted numbering. I don't know if that is in fact the case... Are you aware of any previous discussions towards a cpdl style manual? At present we have:<br />
*'''title ''a'' N (composer)''' where it is possible to disambiguate by number of voices<br />
*'''title (composer) (voci (im-)pari)''' where there are mixed- and 'equal-' (better unmixed?) voice versions<br />
*'''Magnificat N toni (composer) ((im-)pari)''' for alternatim settings<br />
:All the above convey a lot of information to browsers of categories and have some historical precedent as well. Then we have:<br />
*'''Agnus Dei III (anonymous)''' which might mean "...dona nobis pacem", or the third such title in order of the Trent codices, or maybe the second, with another ms. source having already claimed I or II, or even the full title given by a composer (as in Ann Callaway's [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/scores/callawayagnus.pdf ''Agnus dei I''], listed as ''Agnus Dei 1'' in the [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/Choral.html Arsis Press catalogue]). (2nd setting) is a bit anglophone-centric, but I do at least like the parentheses. <br />
:Thanks for raising this issue! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 17:01, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Richard, when I started editing on CPDL the current standards were pretty much established already, but I guess some older discussion can be found on this subject if one searches in the [[CW:BB]] or in the forums. The practice has been to add II (III etc.) to the title when a different setting of an otherwise homonym work is added. Regarding the use of parentheses to isolate the numbering, as in ''Agnus Dei (III)'', I believe it's a matter of personal taste. I particularly would never confuse ''Agnus Dei III'' with its third repetition :) I also prefer Roman numerals to Arabic ones. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 01:13, 12 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Funerary works ==<br />
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Hi Richard, Jonathan has suggested to create a category under this title, but I confess that I'm not knowledgeable enough on this subject to help him. Your opinion would be appreciated on my talk page. Thanks, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 06:05, 5 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Subgenre ==<br />
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I see that you introduced a new genre entry without any problem; way to go! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:46, 8 December 2012 (CST)<br />
:I was given very helpful hints! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:54, 9 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Lumen ad revelationem ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for correcting the category on this. I must say I was at something of a loss to think of how one would use a bit of the Nunc dimittis liturgically.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks also for the corrections you made to [[Dominica in Palmis (Emerico Lobo de Mesquita)|Dominica in Palmis]]! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Your edition of Victimae paschali laudes by Orlando di Lasso ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I'm working on this piece and I would like to check with you the last note of bass on bar 59 (G, syllable "Ma"). The Sämtliche Werke (Neue Reihe) edition published by Bärenreiter appears to have an F instead. Could you please confirm that the G is OK? Thank you. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 18:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I can't remember if it was an editorial choice or in whatever source I used then; the F seems implausible though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I'll use the G then. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 05:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== LinkText alternative text for link display ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I saw your query on [[Template talk:LinkText]] and have added a fix for that (just add new field "alt=Psalm 147 (vulgata)" to get "Psalm 147 (vulgata)" displayed as the link. I haven't documented it yet or expanded its functionality for more than one link yet, but you raised a good point that was easy to fix! &nbsp; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 14:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Very neat, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== S S Wesley Magnificat in E ==<br />
Hi, Richard.<br />
I agree that FF is more likely than EE in the Alto, bar 5, since ATB are otherwise in unison (or octaves). I've changed my edition accordingly. It would be good to get hold of an original source, but I can't find one on the web at all. Until then, at least my edition is usable, which the John Henry Fowler one wasn't!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 13:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Purcell anthems ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your useful additions to the Purcell anthems I've been uploading recently. Much appreciated. You may be able to help with a piece of notation that occasionally appears in the source document. This is :S:. My guess is that it is a form of repeat mark, but I have failed to find any confirmation of this, either on the internet, or in a couple of musical dictionaries that I've looked at.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 12:44, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I'll look later if there's a facsim. link; John Gosling uses something a bit like that for a trill. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:54, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, [http://imslp.org/wiki/Harmonia_Sacra_(Purcell,_Henry) pp36-7] is indeed no ornament but a ''segno.'' If two minim rests are understood it could work as a ''petit reprise''. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 08:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, thanks for that useful link. You'll notice from my most recent upload that I've added the Z number. When I get time, I'll go through the Purcell page and add the Z numbers to the other editions. Incidentally, the one I have just uploaded is the last one in the facsimile I was working from, so there will now be a hiatus, as far as Purcell is concerned!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasonal music ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I've just created [[ChoralWiki:Seasonal music]] in order to simplify your weekly updates. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 15:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think I can remember where to go in the future, and that's editable by non-admins who might want to take over, probably a good thing. Since it's less intuitive how to edit the Main page, should there be a pointer on Talk:? There's a little more on [[User talk:CHGiffen#Main page]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 10:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard, what did you have in mind when you proposed to automate this page? Should it be updated on a monthly basis, or is it preferable on a weekly basis? In that case, which day of the week would be best for the updates? If you already have an idea of what should be displayed on each month (or week), please post it on [[ChoralWiki talk:Seasonal music]] and I'll take care of the rest. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deus in adjutorium/Domine ad adjuvandum ==<br />
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Richard, I think you may not have fully appreciated to muddle I was trying to sort out! The ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' page was created by me in my first attempt to tidy up the text pages. That was before I related it properly to the ''Deus in adjutorium'' page, which makes it clear that the source text is the same. Some versions of ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' appeared on both text pages, some on neither. As a first step, putting everything on the same page seemed sensible. (This is of course about the Vespers versicle; there is also a separate page for the introit which draws on the same text.)<br />
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I think it's at least arguable that two separate text pages might be better, though there would need to be clear cross links, as with ''Tantum ergo'' and ''Pange lingua''. So your views on how best to do this, given your detailed understanding of the minutiae of Roman Catholic liturgy, would be welcome.<br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 17:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm often in [[Tota pulchra es|a muddle]] myself ;-) I think you did well to make a single page and regard them as the same text, and I imagine "Domine ad" settings would normally be preceded by an intoned "Deus in". I would urge though that non-standard versions be left on the work pages: One should be able learn that Gastoldi has some weird verse by looking [[Domine ad adiuvandum (Giovanni Gastoldi)|at this page]], and later someone can figure out what's up. [[Domine ad adjuvandum me (Orlando di Lasso)|Lasso's Offertory]] uses the Gradual's non-vulgate translation of Ps. 40 (If you want to really set your head spinning look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Psalters WP's Latin psalters article]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== cat vs vcat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, just a quick reminder: when linking to a voicing category as [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ave_Maria_(Charles_Gounod)&diff=next&oldid=497976 you did here], please remember to use {{tl|vcat}} instead of {{tl|cat}}. Otherwise the work may not be locatable by the Multi-Category Search when that specific voicing is searched for. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Nunc dimittis ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Could you explain what it is you were doing with the [[Nunc dimittis]] page? As near as I can tell, if you were trying to collect together settings that have been paired with a Magnificat (for Choral Evensong use in the Anglican tradition) and separate out all the others, then from what I can tell, the work is incomplete. On the other hand, an isolate ''Nunc dimittis'' (or ''Magnificat'') could just as well be intended as a part of an "Evening Service"&nbsp;&ndash; as my own setting is (and now appears orphaned along with a couple of other settings below the "Evening Service" list, and the same goes for the Mundy setting which was evidently intended for Anglican use. Any clarification (and cleanup) would be appreciated. Thanks! &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure; besides the self explanatory part, the 3 orphans are: *[[Nunc dimittis (Charles H. Giffen)]], [[Nunc Dimittis Canonico Johannes (Harrison Hackett)]], and [[Nunc Dimittis (William Mundy)]]. I didn't have enough information handy to decide to which they belonged, but didn't think to add a cleanup tag. Does the Mundy then have an accompanying Mag.? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't know if the Mundy has a matching, but I'd be surprised if it didn't. What about the Tim Risher, which has no matching Mag listed (as far as I can tell)? This aside, I wonder why the category {{CiteCat|Evening Canticles}} already does (or should do) the classification you're seeking. Are you planning to do the same thing to the [[Magnificat]] page? &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::(I did find the Mundy.) As I recall, I was interested in Latin settings at the time, and winnowing out "In English, as Part of an Evening Service" seemed a good idea. If you have thoughts on organizing the page, let's move to [[Talk:Nunc dimittis]], though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:34, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Pange Lingua ==<br />
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Thanks for your note, Richard.<br />
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No, there is no intention of recombining the Tantum ergo and Pange lingua pages. You may recall that there was a discussion about this a year or more back and the consensus was that a split would be appropriate, given the large number of settings and the different liturgical uses - you will know much more about the latter than I do!<br />
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There was an earlier discussion, which again you may recall, about whether the list of works on the text pages should be created automatically, (which is efficient, but cannot include information useful to the searcher, like voicing, or what parts of the text are used in a particular edition) or manually. The disadvantage of the manual list is that editors may neglect to add the relevant details to the text page.<br />
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Carlos has come up with a neat solution, which lists those editions which refer to the text page but do not appear in the manual list. There are two reasons for items being on that list; the obvious one, that the editor has neglected to add it, and a subtler one, that the name of the works page has been altered in some way, without all the relevant links being checked and altered accordingly.<br />
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What I have been doing when I come upon a page with a "missing items" list is to make the necessary manual additions, and adjustments to works page links that have been changed. <br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 18:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== I heard a voice from heaven - Tomkins ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that. I think what must have happened is that I've inadvertently deleted the Tomkins files while thinking they were the Goss or Morley settings, since I hadn't included the composer name in the file name. I've taken the opportunity to do a bit of tidying - the version I had originally done now looks rather cramped - but it should all be there now.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ich hebe meine Augen SWV 31 ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting the duplicated title. I'm not sure where it came from and deleting it caused some difficulty. However, now sorted, so I've removed the score error message. <br />
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On musica ficta, yes, you have interpreted it correctly. The only possible confusion might be that, in the source, the figured bass is also written above the stave and that has accidentals in it too. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 20:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I suppose so! Have you seen those Italian prints where the 'accidental' is on the staff but, when one peers closely enough, centered on the line or space a third above the bass note? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, in case you are not 'watching' my talk page, I've replied to your latest query about ''Ad te levavi animam meam'' there, to keep the thread together. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Da pacem, Domine]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I noticed that you moved this text page to the comma-less form. There are around 4-5 work titles that use the version with comma; should we standardize them by removing the comma? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, <br />
:I don't think so, unless a NoTi(tle) template for text pages is being contemplated. Work titles can follow the composer's (or even editor's) usage, while uniform text page title style (borrowed from Solsmes indexing style) is just to take some guesswork out of adding LinkText|unpunctuated title. For that reason I'd [[Category_talk:Voicing#Renaming Categories|still like to do something]] about the red {{CC|Solo soprano}} and the ridiculously cumbersome to remember [[Category talk:Hymn meters#Simpler meter names|hymn meter names.]] [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 21:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
::OK! I sometimes add commas to titles if I think it'll clarify their meaning, but I agree that for Latin this is not so common or even necessary. Regarding hymn meter names, this is a somewhat cryptic subject to me, sorry for not being able to contribute to the discussion. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Seid Barmherzig (Heinrich Schütz) ==<br />
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Unfortunately not, Richard. That was my initial thought, but bars 198-210 are different, although the notes are often the same. So I've rolled back your edit.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 21:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== O sacramentum pietatis ==<br />
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Hi Richard! After creating a text page for ''[[O sacramentum pietatis]]'', I noticed that [[O sacramentum pietatis H 260 (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)|the text used by Charpentier]] is completely different. Maybe you (or James?) could help identify the source of this second text? And how can we properly differentiate both titles, in your opinion? Thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 23:25, 29 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tota pulchra es (Gregorian chant) ==<br />
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Hi, Richard. You removed the 'Broken link' tag of [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) this edition/page]. It's a link to the Abel DiMarco's site, where we find two links: one for Palestrina and the other for Lassus. Where do we have to go to find the score? Please help the users. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Claude; sorry, I don't quite understand: I can click the link to Abel's site, click on T, get:<br />
*Tantum ergo. Partitura<br />
*Te lucis ante terminum. Partitura<br />
*Tollite portas. Partitura<br />
*Tota pulchra es. Partitura<br />
*Tu es qui venturus es?. Partitura<br />
*Turba multa. Partitura<br />
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:then (on the third try) clicking on Tota pulcra I get the advertised file with the Gregorian chant. Is there perhaps a different page that has ambiguous links? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:36, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, Richard. It's weird, when I click on T, get:<br />
::• Tota Pulchra es. Lassus (2 v. i.) Partitura <br />
::• Tota pulchra es. Palestrina (Coro 5 v.m.) Partitura <br />
::the page is that one: http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/t/<br />
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::BTW, I don't see how I could merge pages according to your suggestion [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Agnus_Dei_a_3_(Francesco_Lorenzo_Luciani) here] because I don't find the same underlay text, nor the same music. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::Weird indeed! There seem to be separate indexes for chant and polyphony. From your page I was finally able to click my way to http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/cantoral-gregoriano/#T The trick is to use the lower of the two indexes. Shall I revise the link on http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) ? <br />
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:::I don't remember what I was thinking about on the Luciani page, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hello guys! I, just like Richard, was only looking at the lower index that pointed to the correct work on that same page. Only now I noticed the other indexes above that lead to another page with polyphonic works. I've tweaked the {{CT|Website}} template so that now it adds the index automatically, based on work title (#T in this case). How do you like it? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 03:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That's great, thanks. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Thank you ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your (belated) welcome. And thanks for your kind words about my edition. [[User:D-fished|D-fished]] ([[User talk:D-fished|talk]]) 20:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Vater Abraham ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that I don't know the range of a concert flute! I've altered the files so that the second flute is an alto flute, duly transposing the notes and changing the description accordingly.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:37, 10 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== nonbot seeking dothint ==<br />
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hey richard! giovanni.cervo or senza punto at the thermodynamix postmastery? <br><br />
k regards <br><br />
Tulipo Petressian 19:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I don't own a dictionary with the word "dothint", sorry! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 07:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: sorry too, but the dothint wasn't even in the question. which was: please give me a clue about whether or not there would be a dot between name and surname in your mail address! Tulipo Petressian 08:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::Ah, I'm a little slow today; the spell-checker even suggested dot hint. Only one dot, between [appropriate substitution]mail and com.[[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 11:00, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::: phew, confusing botphobian riddling! allow me some slow thinking as well: I had no doubts about the dot between mail and com, so you are telling me there is no other dot, only a nondot between john and doe?! Tulipo Petressian 18:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:LOL, I'm loving this! "Talk ''nerdy'' to me." :)<br />
:That's it, Tulipo, no dots between john & doe. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 19:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: bravo, don c! (or would you prefer nondon?) Tulipo Petressian 19:39, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== work titles in quotes ==<br />
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hi richard! just noticed that putting work titles in quotes, as you proposed in ''"Pour forth no more" from Jephtha HWV 70'' (to add the jeptha source info) has the downside of putting them out of their expected alphabetical order, thus making them impossible to find if looking by initial character. Tulipo Petressian 22:40, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:A similar discussion is underway at [[Talk:Gloria all'Egitto (Triumphal scene from Aida) (Giuseppe Verdi)]], but unfortunately we haven't yet come up with a solution that pleases everybody. I also prefer to avoid beginning titles with quotes, for technical reasons other than the sorting issue you cite. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 02:01, 27 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::We avoid quotes in titles and there are now two movements edited, which I merged on the [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Jephtha,_HWV_70_(George_Frideric_Handel) work page] I created. Is that Ok? [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 08:02, 27 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::hi claude. for me,frankly: not ok. I would say the song title should be mentioned on the jephtha page, and indexed(is that the terminus techn.?). as it is now, typing "pour forth" into the search engine delivers no result. if you don't know that the aria is from jephtha, you're not going to find it on the site... cheers, Tulipo Petressian 08:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::You're right, I have added movements titles on the work page. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 09:20, 27 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::: thanks claude. still not content, though. the situation on the jephtha work "page is more clear now. search for "laud her, all" indeed leads to the work page (in larger works it would be ok if the link even goes to the song location in the work page). search for "pour forth" on the other hand does offer "Pour forth no more etc", this link however redirects in a cul de sac.. thanks for your trouble so far, regards Tulipo Petressian 11:53, 27 January 2016 (UTC)</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Richard_Mix&diff=593410User talk:Richard Mix2016-01-27T08:52:39Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* work titles in parenthesis quotes */</p>
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<div>==Problems submitting a score==<br />
Hi, I'm struggling to learn the ropes here. After a few abortive attempts at "Add scores to CPDL" I found one file under my contributions page: [[Image:Gaudeamus Battistini.pdf]] and have made an article page for it. <small>—The preceding [[ChoralWiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Richard Mix|Sparafucil]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richard Mix|contribs]]) on 18:16, 15 January 2008.</small><br />
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:Hi there. Welcome to CPDL and thank you for your edition! I'm sorry to hear that you're having difficulties. I've just created the [[Giacomo Battistini|composer page]] and added the works entry to it. Please supply the following information and I will format the score page correctly:<br />
:*Your real name<br />
:*The copyright that you are assigning to your edition (the preference is the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]] but you may apply any license to your edition; it would be a good idea to add this information to the bottom of the first page of the PDF too)<br />
:*A MIDI file would be very useful if you are able to create one (not required but useful)<br />
:When you come to your next score submission, please try to follow the score submission guide which I think is very clear. If you're having problems, please leave a message on [[User talk:Bobnotts|my talk page]], noting the part that you're having difficulties with and I will endevour to help. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:58, 15 January 2008 (PST)<br />
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== Beatus vir ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I had to revert your edits made to [[Beatus vir, RV 597 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 597]], because you were inadvertently removing the original info. You probably wanted to edit [[Beatus vir, RV 598 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 598]], right? What probably happened was that you clicked on page RV 598 and was "redirected" to RV 597 without noticing it. When we move a page to another name, the original name automatically receives a "redirect" code to the new page. If that's what happened, tell me and I will copy to RV 598 the edits you made, so that you don't lose what you had already done. Regards -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 21:40, 16 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:Yes, that was it! I thought there was something wrong; thanks for putting it right. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 18:38, 17 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::Hi Richard, here I am again. I'm not sure I understood what you did. The PDFs you uploaded to RV 598 specify on their first pages that they are from RV 597! Is that correct? From what I saw, ''Beatus vir'' RV 597 is in C major, and RV 598 is in B flat major. I think it would be a good idea also to check with the admins if CPDL allows pages hosting only the orchestra parts, without their corresponding vocal parts. -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:52, 19 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::Yes, the two pages now need to be swapped. How did you find the uploaded files? And where should I try contacting the admins (one is Rafael, I assume? I would think it only a matter of time before someone adds choral parts, but... ) tia, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 07:28, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::::Hi Richard, the two pages contents are now swapped, remember your scores are now in RV 597! I found your uploaded files looking at the upload log available at [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] in the left menu. Try asking your questions to admins here: [[ChoralWiki:Sheet music requests and questions]]. Regards! -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:39, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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== Redirects ==<br />
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Hi Richard!<br />
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I'd like to know if there is a reason why you created a redirect to [[When Israel came out of Egypt (William Byrd)|this work]]. If you type these exact words in the search box, the correct page will be the first (and only) to appear, so this redirect seems unnecessary. The same applies to the various Hanacpachap redirects you created. The variant spellings are all inside the works page, so someone searching for any of them should be able to find that work without the need of the redirects. <br />
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Redirects are usefull only in some specific situations, as when we use template <nowiki>{{ChoralWiki}}</nowiki> on Wikipedia to redirect to a page on CPDL and the Wikipedia article title is different from the title at CPDL. Regards —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 16:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Carlos,<br />
:I was only trying to turn a red link at [[Psalm 114]] blue, which is also easily accomplished by adding a first name. Is there a downside to having redirects? The only way I could find [[Hanacpachap]] before was to go to [[Anonymous#H|anonymous and look under H]], which took quite a few extra seconds;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard,<br />
::In fact redirects do increase a little bit the database's workload, since they need to be indexed too; we also have more work when we need to move the target page to a different title; but they are nonetheless useful in many situations. It's strange you couldn't find ''Hanacpachap'': if you try a search with this name the works page shows up. This is what we've been doing when possible: to add composer aliases and composition variant titles in the page text so they can be found easily via the Search tool. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, the only difference between "go" and "search" is the option to create a new page. I still have a WP habit of creating red links in preview mode to see what's there, but will try not to carry it over to CPDL (if you click on the one above you wont get any seach results at all). Shouldn't I have come across mention of this prefered strategy before somewhere? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Text sources ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for adding text sources to score pages. It really helps to make ChoralWiki a truly interlinked website. I had one doubt, though, [[Confitebor tibi Domine (Giovanni Gabrieli)]]. It looks more like parts of [[Psalm 9]] vv.2-3 & 16 to me (though I can't identify the entire text). Do you agree? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Dear Bob, <br>Thanks for the catch! The Vulgate lumps Ps's 9 & 10, so: 9:2-3, (I think you're right about 16), 12, 10:37a. Btw, re JSB I think you meant that it is preferable to have external links from a cpdl page as [[Cantata BWV 131 - Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir (Johann Sebastian Bach)|here]] (I'm looking into the title of bwv 131, often given as Aus der Tiefen). With all the material at bachcantatas.com it might be nice to have a BachCantata template. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about Sibelius 4 exporting to previous versions formats ==<br />
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Hi Richard I saw your question in John Patterson's talk page...Yes Sibelius 4(5 and now 6) gives you the possibility to save files so they can be opened with previous versions of Sibelius...that option is under the menu File and then Export (not "save as")...I hope it was helpful...[[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 02:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, it's only in Sib3 that it's under "save as SIb2 file". Thanks, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bach Cantatas ==<br />
:''(The other half of the conversation is [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Saniakob&oldid=214153 here])''<br />
Hi Richard, you are right...the reasons why I did that is because of organizational purposes...The page is still "under construction"...there are many things to fix...So for the moment I am ordering editions...and creating sections (like Cantatas, Chorales so on) to put things in order...once all editions are ordered I will work on each section....So far, the cantatas which have a page including all pieces are those which are complete...Cantatas which have only some pieces in CPDL are given as titles with the corresponding editions listed below...I pretend to change that in the future, but for now that is the criterion...Thanks for the suggestion and comment!![[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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My apologies Richard, now I see, your edition is of Movement 1 and I listed it in Movement 7 page...my mistake... There is a problem on making a page for the whole cantata when there are available only 2 Movements.If you see CPDL requires that the number of editions available must be mentioned...the cantatas which are complete and have editions of independent movements mention this "full score and independent movements" (or similar text). It is impossible to mention which movements are included in each page; it is note possible to write "some movements available" or to mention each movement next to the Cantata title. For clarity, the movements available are listed under the Cantata tile...This criterion is used in all CPDL pages, or at least is what I have been told by Admins...CPDL manager also added some templates to be used for the Cantatas section and did not object how things were, so I assume things are correctly organized... Regarding, languages and other mistakes on the edition pages... I will correct that in a near future, I am checking page by page...and taking notes on what needs to be fixed....For the moment, all of my time goes on finding the corresponding BWV catalog number for each entry on the page and checking if they are missatributions, translations or other stuff, as well as sending each edition to its corresponding section within the page...Regarding your suggestion of opening another Bach project in CPDL...I can't answer that...I think an Admin will give you a proper reply...Thanks again - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The discussion you mention is about merging pieces which are the same piece but with different titles translated to other languages. I will ask you please to stop changing things at the page. If you were concerned with Bach page you could have adopted it before. I took it and CPDL admins know about it. I appreciate your concern but undoing my work doesn't help. Since CPDL was created Bach page is a mess...and things are much ordered now. Please respect my decisions about the page management, there is 1 volunteer per page and with Bach page it happens to be me...If you have a complain direct it to the admins...I wouldn't like to report you for interfering because I know you try to help, but this is not the right way. Please be patient, things can't be fixed in 2 days, actually, I am volunteering since one month ago and there is a lot to do and the time I could use to improve the page I am spending undoing your changes because you don't respect my position as volunteer with the page. - Thanks [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 20:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Never mind. I step out. I am no longer volunteering with this page. Feel free to take the position, it is available.<br />
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Here is my reply to your comment in [[User_talk:CHGiffen#Bach_Cantatas|Mr. Giffen's talk page]]....<p>"I stepped out. I am no longer volunteering. Offer the position of volunteering with Bach Page to Mr. Mix who thinks he can do a much better job than me...I wish he would have made something when no one was maintaining the page for years and not just now when someone else started doing the job. I worked for 10 years as manager and copyist of a music repository at a university and I thought I knew some stuff of the trade...but I guess I was wrong. Besides, you modified things in the page (adding the templates for the cantatas) and you didn't told me anything about my way of organizing things...just now when I have this discussion you tell me about CPDL rules and make me look like a fool when I try to defend my point of view with Mr. Mix. Finally, If I did not read wrong, the Adopt a composer program states clearly that there is 1 volunteer per page...so "collaborative work" as Mr. Mix call it doesn't apply for some things...like changing things at will... I understand collaborative work is teaching people how to make a submission to CPDL correctly (which I did) because the information given by the site is confusing....or translating pages to other languages to make CPDL more accessible to everyone (which I also did)... I know perfectly what collaborative work is. I am a professional with enough experience in my field and I won't work under this conditions. Perhaps I misunderstood what CPDL was about...if that's the case then I am to blame. Thank you."</p><br />
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Things are exactly as they were before I took Bach page...so you can start the work in the way you love most...Best Regards - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 17:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Failed contributions==<br />
Hi Richard. You tried to contribute editions of two Mendelssohn pieces to CPDL on 21st July but I can't locate any files for these editions. Could you point me in the right direction, please? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sure- on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090724002639&target=Richard+Mix my contributions page] I still see: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).sib and http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).pdf on the page [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]], as well as two more files up at [[Im Wald. Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]]. Thanks, and hope I havnt unwittingly made anything harder. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry - my mistake. I found the page [[Im Walde, Op. 41, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] linked from the [[Mendelssohn]] page and when I didn't see your edition listed, I got confused! Nothing wrong with [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] but [[Im Wald Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] was missing a catalogue number and wasn't linked to from the main [[Mendelssohn]] page. I've fixed both of those things now. Thanks --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Sacred feasts ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for improving the texts of those categories, I never imagined this subject could be so complex :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 18:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Salve Regina]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your work on this page. You'll see that I moved the external link you added to under the "external links" section. I feel that we need to draw the line somewhere, otherwise people would add any vaugely relevant links to the settings list and clutter it up. I hope that's ok with you. <br />
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Also, you asked: "should all voicings redirect as SATB does?" in an edit summary for the page. Firstly, please don't use edit summaries to ask question - they should be used to give a brief summary of the edit and nothing else. The best place to ask questions is on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums]. To answer your question, though, there's no strict rule for redirects but generally I'd say that [[SATB]] is only a redirect because it's a voicing that's used so frequently. To add links to categories quickly (without categorising the page in the category), use the "CiteCat" template, like this: <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|SSATB}}</nowiki></tt>. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 15:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Text page links ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for all your help lately! Just thought I'd mention one thing: when you add a link to a text page from a score page, such as on [[Ave Maria, Op. 23, No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] and [[Laudate Dominum omnes gentes, III (Claudio Monteverdi)]], please try to remember to also update the text page to link back to the score page. That way, someone looking for a particular text can find all the settings of it on CW (in theory!) I've just updated the text pages for those score pages. I know it's easy to forget sometimes. Thanks again. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 12:16, 26 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Declare his honour - Henry Purcell ==<br />
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I hope I'm adding comments to the correct page, since it's not enirely obvious how one contacts people in Choral Wiki<br />
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With regard to my reformatting of the Fowler version of this, bar 75 should have read bar 74 (and the last note of bar 73), where the bass part seems to have been transposed down by a 6th. (This is fairly obvious when you play it back. It also corresponds with bar 247 of the Callon version of O sing unto the Lord). The same transposition seems to have occurred in the bass accompaniment in bar 76.<br />
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I have corrected these (and taken the liberty of removing your error message at the same time!) I've also uploaded new versions of the .pdf, .mid and .cap files.<br />
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I've found some oddities when uploading new versions of files. Although I uploaded a revised version of the .pdf file on 7th February, the file that was there when I opened it today appeared to be the original version. I have uploaded a new version and that seems now to be the version in Choral Wiki. However, the .cap file I uploaded at the same time seems not to have been uploaded, since it is still the old file which opens.<br />
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On the question of combining this with O sing unto the Lord, that is obviously a sensible move. However, from the point of view of practical use for singers, I don't think most choirs would make much use of the full version, so I would suggest there should still be a link on the Purcell main page for "Declare his honour", which redirects to "O sing unto the Lord"<br />
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:Welcome! A lot of useful discussion does happen on user talk pages; there are also the CPDL fora, which confusingly require a separate login even if you use the same name and password. If it's alright with you though, I'll copy the Purcell-specific discussion to [[Talk:O sing unto the Lord (Henry Purcell)]].<br />
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:Thanks for the corrections and clarifications! I'm not sure about the oddities yet, but will have another look, and add the error report to Fowler. <br />
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:I agree about the redirect in case anyone searches under "D". This is handled by turning subpage Declare His Honor (Henry Purcell) into a redirect. It isnt necessary to have the file in two places, as with the redundant Agnus Dei (Marc-Antoine Charpentier): here I think even a redirect to [[Messe de Minuit pour Noël (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)]] is unneeded. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gaudeamus omnes (Giacomo Battistini)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. [[User:Sparafucil]] once uploaded an edition of the work above, but the name in the score is yours! Was Sparafucil an old account you were using before registering as Richard Mix? Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I'd forgotten. Can you delete the account? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Better yet, I've merged the old account into the new one, to unify your contributions. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Motets ==<br />
Hi Richard, I've noticed you 'depopulated' the liturgical music cat in favour of 'motet' on one of my contributions. As you may have noticed, there is a discussion on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4853 forums] about this issue, as yet without decisive outcome. In the case of Mondondone's "Deus in adiutorium", I disagree with your categorisation - it is an office versicle with a clear an unequivocal functional role, pretty much unimaginable in any other context. As for the stylistic issues, those remain to be debated, as you can see on the forums. Would you consider contributing to the discussion? [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 13:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you for the pointer! I'll try to sort it out what I think... I suppose though we're not in disagreement that category:Office versicles would ultimately be more easily searchable than "liturgical music"? In the meantime, we could make a [[Deus in ajutorium]] textpage (maybe just a redirect to a sub-section of [[Psalm 70]]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Psalms ==<br />
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Richard, not sure if I'm doing this the right way, since it doesn't seem immediately intuitive how to reply to comments from someone.<br />
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I suppose the psalm chants I've been adding are an anthology, in the sense that they are the ones we generally use in the choir that I belong to. The only reason that I've set them is Capella is that I got tired of illegible photocopies of words and music. Capella isn't brilliant at handling words if they are not set as lyrics under the notes, so I add the relevant text from a Word file and print the same page twice, once with the chant and once with the text. However, as I only do this when a new psalm comes to be sung, the set is not complete. <br />
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I'm not clear how (or where) I should put them if they were to be presented as an anthology. Would they still appear on the composer pages, but just with a different title?<br />
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On the small "c" for chant issue, I've been puzzled by why the link still appeared in red when I added a score, so that explains it. I haven't typed it in with an upper case C; that's provided by the dropdown list from "Add scores to CPDL". I'll correct by hand for the moment, but it might be useful if someone could alter the dropdown list eventually, to eliminate the problem automatically.<br />
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:Hi James, seems right enough to me. There is a confusing choice of venues around cpdl, and a lot gets done on usertalk pages like this. I raised the dropdown bug at the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4935 operation & implementation] forum (these require a second login and password) and it may be fixed already. I also proposed hashing out psalm naming conventions on the [[Category talk:Anglican chants|category talk page]]; maybe we'll be joined by others. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Praeter rerum seriem ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I have to take exception with your designation of the [[Praeter rerum seriem (Anonymous)]] as being a Gregorian chant source rather than simply Anonymous. If you'll examint the setting, you'll see that it is a triple rhythm tune that is wholly inconsistent with being Gregorian chant, in spite of the text being a Marian sequence. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Charles! Maybe we differ on a definition of "Gregorian" rather than the particulars of the piece. Rhythmisized chant is squarely in that tradition, if I may so speak, and one may consider the long-short ''[[Of the Father's love begotten (Anonymous)|Divinum mysterium)]]'' to be the same piece as the unmeasured notation. <br />
:But I may just be confused about the 'original' ''Praeter rerum''. On a casual inspection, it looks like a Gregorian chant has been used as a tenor by Josquin, and that it differs in a few pitch details (second note, strain 2, and a few extra notes) from a chant book version, which can be adjusted to Josquin's rhythm. Does a different Gregorian melody exist? And did you have a mensural source for what the page calls "the Latin hymn"? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franz Schubert - Fünf Duette ==<br />
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Good morning Richard. Thank you for the cleaning of the Fünf Duette page. The problem i had with the newline character seems solved now. I can continue editing. [[User:BenZene|BenZene]] 08:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vidi aquam confusion ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I basically reverted your edits to [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]], since I think you didn't check the PDFs for the two recently posted scores. Each of these postings consists of THREE settings of Vidi aquam (so perhaps calling them I and II is a bit confusing). At any rate, (I) contains the three settings (all 3-part) from tr93 (pages 5v-6r, 6v-7r, 7v-8r), and (II) contains three settings (only the middle one is 4-part) from tr88 (pp 223v-224r) and tr89 (pp 228v-229r and 229v-230r). Only the first tr89 (pp 228v-229r) is 4-part.<br />
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I checked the pdf for [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]] but not looking at [[Vidi aquam I (Anonymous)]] misconstrued it as a separate work page for what I guess is Vidi aquam 5 [or maybe IIb?] (Anonymous). Thanks for the catch, and I hope you add the foliation info! Do you agree that there's something a bit wrong with the page names and that perhaps a merge if not a split is in order? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Given the way in which the 6 settings of Vidi aquam have been published here in two groups of three each, I'm tempted to suggest that they be merged onto one page, perhaps titled something like<br />
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Makes perfect sense to me. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 08:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Also for me. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== La cieca (Giovanni Ghizzolo) ==<br />
Richard, I'm not quite sure the canges you applied to the voicing cat on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/La_cieca_%28Giovanni_Ghizzolo%29 this] page are for the better. Any user interested in this sort of repertoire is unlikely to search for "Amarilli" as a solo voice type, is he? Besides, to the best of my knowledge, this change would make it one of the few (if any) pages where voicing information is mixed with/replaced by content. I'm not sure that labelling, say, Bach's Matthew Passion as containing "Christ" instead of "bass solo" would be the way to move forward. Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 15:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, The names of course are "piped" and link to Category:Solo Soprano and Category:Solo Tenor. I found the former ST choir designation more confusing myself; now I hope it is clear that the chorus is SSB and the other movements are dialogues for male & female soloists, but maybe you devise something better. Btw, thanks for the [[Mnogaya lyeta (Traditional)]] lyrics! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Voicing for [[I will worship towards thy holy temple (Arthur Sullivan)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I rolled back your voicing change. I'm not sure about the separate choir specification, but, if you look at mm 104-126, you'll see that at least 7 different voices are required (albeit at most 6 sing at any one time). Because of the way the score is laid out, I'm inclined to leave the two-choir voicing (rather than 7vv SSATTBB). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see what you mean. The layout implies choir two SA & TB each in unison. I dont suppose we can have 6|SATB.SATB, which would be my prefered version ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 03:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Say, Watchman, What of the Night? (Arthur Sullivan)|Say, watchman, what of the night?]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your comments, Richard. I think it almost certain that Sullivan, as an accomplished organist, would have specified organ accompaniment for a sacred work, so I must have had my mind not properly in gear to specify something else when entering the details! I've corrected the missing note in the accompaniment of bar 19 and also spotted a couple of misdirected tails, which didn't get automatically changed when I transposed it up a tone in Capella. I've reloaded updated versions of the files.<br />
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The small notes in the accompaniment are not intended to indicate rehearsal only. It's just that, by making the accompaniment small, I can get three systems on an A4 page in Capella in a readable form. (You can probably guess from this that I am a singer, rather than a keyboard player!) If the original indicates "for rehearsal only", I generally make this explicit.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah well, organists are expected to do the superhuman anyway: in this case to transpose a half step while the choir has the convenience of reading in one flat. This must have been before transposer knobs. I must say your version in G raises the bar for the minor mode passages! ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The way is long and dreary ==<br />
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(A title that makes you frantic to sing the piece!) When I was playing this back before submitting it this morning, parts of it sounded vaguely familiar. In fact, the Douglas Walczak Agnus Dei is an extract from this longer anthem, removing the Adelaide Procter bits. So I think they should somehow be linked, but have no idea how to do it myself. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 11:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I was going to wade in here and suggest putting a "See also:" (or "Also see:") item at the end of the "Music files" section for each work, with links between the two works pages (and even do it myself as an example as to illustrate how to do this in the future) &ndash; until I realized that we don't have the Walczak ''Agnus Dei'' at {{CW}}! So, instead, I would suggest simply adding a note in the "Description:" section in the Sullivan about the Walczak piece. There are several examples of the "See also:" usage &ndash; one at [[Advent Anthem (The Advent moon shines cold and clear) (Douglas Brooks-Davies)|''Advent Anthem'']] by [[Douglas Brooks-Davies]] interlinking with my own [[This Advent moon (Charles H. Giffen)|''This Advent moon'']] (which is why I know of the technique). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 12:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: Great idea Chuck, but wouldnt it logically go under '''General information;'''? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hassler Ave maris stella ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I really don't understand your instance on duplicating information in the Edition notes for both editions that is descriptive of the work and not of the editions. I already moved the fact that the chant (and cantus firmus) is mixolydian to the Description section. Moreover, there is no musical difference between the editions: indeed, the polyphony is the same for all three even verses. It just so happens that the Kelecom edition reproduces the music three times, once for each odd verse chant and once for each verse polyphony, while the earlier edition uses the more economical route of providing the chant and polyphony once, with the verses underlaid threefold. As for the question whether the music is transposed (or not) and because both editions share the same fate on this issue, my preference in such situation at CPDL is to leave the matter of announcing "F miixolydian" in the two editions out, until such time as we have sure knowledge of any transposition from the original work (Hassler was not above transposed modes in other works). Elsewhere, when there are more than one edition transposed to the same key (along with the original or other transpositions), we usually group editions with the same transposition under a single heading, such as with [[If ye love me (Thomas Tallis)]]. With this in mind, I hope you will reconsider what amounts to a restoration of your previous edits as an addition after my own edit (which was an attempt to avoid redundancy). I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Chuck! I'm not sure ''If ye love me'' is typical in this regard, though it is a clever solution. If there is no 'redundancy', it's not even clear the editions are at the same pitch, and we have to assume the general info has the correct original key. Thanks for prodding me, though: I'm beginning a long download of DdT to see what can be found there... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: Hi again Richard. Both editions are indeed "at the same pitch", 2 flats in the k.s., cantus firmus beginning on F, note values apparently halved from the original (pretty common). I do note that the Kelecom edition leaves off the 7th verse (chant, missed that previously). I'd be interested to learn what the DdT download turns up. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::...and the piece is in neither ''Cantiones Sacrae'' nor ''Sacri Concentus''. A search in Grove only gets hits for soAVE and bellAVEre, so I guess we're dealing with a contrafactum. Assuming something else turns up, do we replace the edition notes "in F mixolydian" with "original key" both times? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Palestrina Mags ==<br />
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Dear Richard,<br />
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Many thanks for your clarifications and alterations concerning the tricky question of Palestrina Magnificat settings - what you've done now is an immensurably better state of affairs than was in place before - many thanks indeed! Hopefully other people will latch on to the new system and either style their editions with the new clarification system or leave the editions in question open to clarification by contributors such as yourself. Unless I'm being thick, is it the case that there are multiple sections/chapters within the Magnificat octo tonum liber primus (Rome, 1591) publication (although bearing in mind the other Magnificats which were unpublished in 1591 and remain in manuscript form (although transcribed by haberl))? There was only this one publication, according to Grove, and I am unaware of any others. How is the 'book' system that you use set up? I am aware of the division of Haberl's volume into sections, but I can't remember how. Are you able to shed any light on this?<br />
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Re: Lassus Mags, if you're happy to send me facsimiles of Haberl, then I'll happily transcribe them! :-)<br />
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Also, on your own user page, you might want to update the number of scores you've contributed from 1 to the relevant number larger than 1. I wish this acted as a little counter and updated itself!<br />
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Best wishes,<br><br />
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:I was just going by [http://imslp.org/wiki/XXXV_Magnificat_(Palestrina,_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da)], of which the first part is the 1591 "liber primus" (divided into odd and even), but I see that [http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da_Palestrina] doesnt list the subsequent 'liber's! I'll try downloading the forward to see if they had title pages... <br />
:... Ouf, my poor Latin, but Haberl's own Book Two title page clears things up a little: ''Magnificat octotonum quaternis vocibus. (liber secundus.) auctore Petraloysio Praestino nunc primum ex codice cappelae juliae ad S. Petrum Romae in partitionem redigit et edidit Fr. Xav. Haberl.'' A first edition! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Avoiding overcounting your editions ==<br />
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Hi Richard. The "Whatlinkshere" template does indeed overcount editions, because it provides a list of pages with links of any kind (not just links from Sheet music pages generated by the Editor template). That is why I created the "<EditorName> editions" categories. Replacing <tt><nowiki>{{Whatlinkshere}}</nowiki></tt> oh your User page with <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}</nowiki></tt> will solve the problem. Be aware that this will undercount your editions if you have more than one edition listed on a given works page. But at least it provides a shorter list to check (if you suspect you have duplications, as I do). Best wishe. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 22:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm still a little confused- There must be something missing from the template syntax {{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}, since [[:Category:Richard Mix editions]] is a blue link... Got it now, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: My bad... there should be a "|" after CiteCat, not a ":" ... sorry! I corrected the citation in my previous post above. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Missa quinque vocum (Mogens Pedersøn)]] ==<br />
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I think you were right in your edit summary, Richard, so I have returned the layout to a single edition incorporating all the assigned catalogue numbers in the edition notes as before. I came to this conclusion mainly because it is the same score link for all the movements. Feel free to revert. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 06:24, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OT post-Pentecost blunder ==<br />
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Hi Richard. You are entirely right - after I swapped Pentecost IX and X, I realized that you were problably right in putting X before IX for precisely the reason you gave in your edit summary. I hope you like the appearance of the wikitable format better, though. I'll make another pass through the Sundays after Pentecost to do a few cleanup and tidying chores, at least when I get a chance! Many thanks for taking on the organization of these liturgical categories. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the tidying, and it's just as well what I've typed in a hurry so far gets double-checked! <br />
:I've always copied code for tables from any old place I stumble across an example, but is there an official help page somewhere? I just noticed that [[Piae Cantiones]] has a sortable list, which might be handy for the [[Ordinary Time]] table. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Verse anthem? ==<br />
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Hi Richard. In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hosanna_to_the_Son_of_David_%28Orlando_Gibbons%29&diff=prev&oldid=259680 this edit], you labelled [[Hosanna to the Son of David (Orlando Gibbons)]] as a verse anthem. I thought I would double check we're agreed on this, as according to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_anthem Wikipedia article] and my limited knowledge on the subject, this surely is not a verse anthem but a full anthem. Was your edit a mistake? I have changed it back, at least for the time being. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You're absolutely right! I think I might have had [[Behold, I bring you glad tidings (Orlando Gibbons)]] on my mind at the time... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jesu, word of God incarnate in The Anthem Book ==<br />
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Regarding your question as to whether this was a version of Gounod's Ave Maria, my mind wasn't properly in gear, because I tend to think of that as Bach-Gounod. The answer is that it definitely isn't that, though I don't know what the original words might have been. I'll get round to submitting it shortly and check whether it matches any of the other Gounod stuff already uploaded.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 23:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:No, [[Talk:The Anthem Book|I meant]] the [[Ave verum corpus|other ''Ave'']] of which JwoGi is the common translation. Btw, I finally brought the Methodists around to Latin by showing them how much better the English fit [[Ave Verum, Op. 2, No. 1 (Edward Elgar)|Elgar's setting]] than the Latin, and then later persuading them that, visa-versa, they didnt really want to sing "Jesu, Worduv, God incarnate" in the Mozart. Iirc, Elgar composed to a different Latin hymn originally, publishing it as Avc later. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yes, clearly my mind wasn't properly in gear when I replied. It is of course Ave Verum Corpus, rather than Ave Maria. I've actually never sung it to the English works, whether Mozart, Elgar or Byrd, so didn't immediately recognise the connection. Interesting about the Elgar being set to different text originally.<br />
I can't open the file under 7 motetten, but the music looks the same as the Ornes version on CPDL. I guess it's probably worth putting it up with English words too. James Gibb<br />
:Nice, a blue link then! Now we just have to [[Talk:Ave verum I (Charles Gounod)|sort out the targent page name]]... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Fuerunt mihi lacrimae (Alfonso Ferrabosco II)|Fuerunt mihi lacrymae]] ==<br />
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Richard, you are quite right to suggest E minor rather than G for the transposed key. Rather too many D sharps for me to contradict you convincingly. I've added the actual allocation of the parts for the SATB version, which seems to chime with the Fowler TTBB allocation, though I've moved one low B in the S up an octave for convenience.<br />
I assume it's your addition of F minor to the Fowler edition, but I think it should be up a minor 2nd, not a minor third, unless you are referring to an edition I have no seen.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 16:06, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
:I'm just guessing that d is a plausible original key, the minor third being a popular transposition for editors of English music. If you based yours on the Fowler, then that would be _down_ a minor second! Maybe better not to speculate; I'd better try to remember take a look next time I'm at the library, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:50, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== 2 cents ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your comments on my talk page. I had decided not to continue replying to the gentleman of very set opinion. Regards, Paul Marchesano [[User:Marchesa|Marchesa]] 20:56, 29 April 2011 (CDT)<br />
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==[[Ewig dein WoO 161 (Ludwig van Beethoven)| "Ewig Dein"]] - Voicing ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for your revision. I'm pretty new on this pages. But in case you decide to perform the canon with mixed choir (for example SST), the voicing isn't equal any more. Is this a problem? [[User:B.peterson|bp]] 08:16, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
:Not for me personally ;-) (A purist within earshot might take issue with the resulting 64 inversions.) <br />
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:But the voicing template doesn't need to foresee every possible performance option: for a cappella works we often list AATBB in the General info. section and let editors add Category:SSATB in their Edition notes, and I see that [[Say, wanton, will you love me? (Thomas Weelkes)]] might be treated this way. Welcome to CPDL, and thanks for your editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:30, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== tidying up duplicate page ==<br />
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"(Deletion log); 19:46 . . Richard Mix (Talk | contribs) deleted "Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen" (Superfluous page: duplicates Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen (Friedrich Silcher))"<br />
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Thank you Richard, this was my first submission to CPDL, now I know that when you edit the composer's page first, you get the desired ''Title (Composer)'' suggested. Regards -- [[User:KlausFoehl|KlausFoehl]] 17:29, 16 July 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glen O'Brien) ==<br />
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Thank you Richard for an appropriate page for the arrangement. My name is actually spelt Glenn O'Brien.[[User:Glennobrien|Glennobrien]] 09:42, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
:You're welcome, and very sorry about that! I noticed you already fixed a couple of things, and I've just moved the page to [[Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glenn O'Brien)]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:45, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Magnificat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for the improvements to the page; it makes more sense indeed to have the Latin text come first. I'll see if I can improve it a bit more, putting the remaining translations in two columns. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 09:30, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Thanks for your sharp eyes on the Greek, too; I'll ask another question on [[Talk:Magnificat]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:42, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Carols for Choirs ==<br />
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Hi Richard<br />
I am in the process of spreading sortable tables through the ''…for Choirs'' pages, and came across your suggestion to merge the Carols for Choirs pages ([[Carols for Choirs 1]], 1 Sept, 2011).<br />
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Is [[Carols for Choirs|this]] the sort of thing you had in mind?. Would it make sense to have any discussion about this [[Talk:Carols for Choirs|here]]?<br />
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[[User:Peter Gibson|Peter Gibson]] 07:57, 7 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the note! [[Talk:Carols for Choirs]] indeed makes sense. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:17, 8 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Musica Divina transcriptions ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for the additional information you are adding to the Musica Divina editions I've been transcribing. I would do it myself, if I knew which categories existed!<br />
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I've also noticed that you've added an original pitch and note length version of Lassus's Dextera Domini. As a couple of people have asked that I upload "unaltered" versions as well, my intention is to go back through the stuff I've already uploaded and do just that. (It's relatively easy, since I do the transcription into original clefs and note lengths to minimise transcription mistakes, and only then make any adjustments) I'm certainly not going to duplicate work that you've already done; this is just to let you know that providing originals (with modern clefs) is high up on my to-do list.<br />
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Your email address on your CPDL page appears not to work, by the way, but perhaps I interpreted it too literally.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 02:29, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:I was just about to write you congratulations and also see if we can better divide up Lassus: I already have on hand a lot of the offertory motets for 4 vv: Benedic anima; Benedicam Dom.; Benedictus es...doce; Confitebor tibi; Dextera Dom.; Dom. convertere; Dom. in auxilium; Dom vivifica me; Exaltabo te; Expectans; Gressus meos; Illumina oculos; Immittet angelus; Improperium; In te speravi; Intende voci; Jubilate Deo; Lauda anima mea; Meditabor, Perfice gressus; Populum humilium; Precatus es; Scapulis suis; Sperunt in te. What a drag that we're using incompatible programs, otherwise we'd have really powerful proofreading tools!<br />
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:Hotmail is what I hope the non-bots will guess, btw. ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Thanks. I'll do a skim through the Lassus that is available on the Musica Divina motets and let you know which ones aren't on your list, or otherwise available on CPDL. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 08:52, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Of the 20 Lassus motets that are in Musica Divina Vol II, the following don't currently appear in CPDL:<br />
:Benedicite Gentes<br />
:Domine in auxilium meum respice<br />
:Factus est Dominus firmamentum<br />
:In te speravi Domine<br />
:Joannes est nomen eius<br />
:Sperent in te omnes<br />
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I think these are all 4-part, but I haven't checked individually. There may be other motet-like things appearing in the other volumes, but I'll check that later. Given that you've already done the 4th and the 6th on the list, and assuming that you have another source anyway, I suggest that I pick the remaining 4, unless you have already started on any of them, Richard.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:12, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Didn't notice that you had included Domine in Auxilium on your list, so I've now uploaded copies of Benedicite Gentes, Factus est Dominus firmamentum and Joannes est nomen eius. I've also uploaded a 4-part version of Eripe me, since the version currently on CPDL is a 3-part one. All at original pitch and note value secundum Proske, although I've also uploaded a transposed version of Eripe me, since it goes so low that only proper basses can get there with any confidence!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:11, 14 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Incomplete Editions ==<br />
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LOL Richard, it seems we were having similar thoughts, but posted in different places; only after opening a discussion at [[Template talk:IncompleteEdition]] I saw that you had also done it at [[Category talk:Incomplete editions]]. Please check there too! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 19:34, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Done, and point about thin skins taken, though inapplicable to latest new contributor, I trust. Ciao! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:35, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
::Hi, thanks for your comments on the template talk page. I'm still thinking about the various possibilities and will reply you soon. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:47, 21 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Veni sponsa Christi ==<br />
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Good point, Richard. I actually read it as bride, but without thinking of the inappropriate connotations! Incidentally, I've noticed that some of the additions you are making in the form of "Common of..." are coming up red, presumably because the appropriate category page has yet to be created. At the moment, that's rather beyond my job group, though I hope to improve!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 12:14, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
:You're [[Veni Sponsa Christi (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)|not the first]], nor was [[Veni, Sponsa Christi (Peter Philips)|Mick the last]]! I should have remembered the text via Couperin's Motets de Ss Anne & Suzanne. <br />
:Even now the redlinks can be used to see what other pieces are gathered but they should of course be turned blue eventually to standardize {{CiteCat|Common of Virgins}} (correct, according to Palmer/Burgess) vs. {{CiteCat|Common of a Virgin}} (top of my head) and also to be gathered as subcategories of {{CiteCat|Common of Saints}}. Carlos & Chuck were [[Category talk:Sacred music by season|very helpful with Sacred music by season]] and once I refresh my memory I'll have a go at the coding; in the meantime I remain in amazed admiration of your industry in making beautiful editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:44, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Sheppard's [[In manus tuas (John Sheppard)|In manus tuas]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for making the titles uniform. I was thinking that perhaps we could rename all three of them to the usual ''In manus tuas I'', ''II'' and ''III'', what do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 08:32, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Yes, that would be more in line with prevailing practice and I considered it; on the other hand, it suggests that the non-parenthetical roman numeral is part of the original title, or at least a generally accepted numbering. I don't know if that is in fact the case... Are you aware of any previous discussions towards a cpdl style manual? At present we have:<br />
*'''title ''a'' N (composer)''' where it is possible to disambiguate by number of voices<br />
*'''title (composer) (voci (im-)pari)''' where there are mixed- and 'equal-' (better unmixed?) voice versions<br />
*'''Magnificat N toni (composer) ((im-)pari)''' for alternatim settings<br />
:All the above convey a lot of information to browsers of categories and have some historical precedent as well. Then we have:<br />
*'''Agnus Dei III (anonymous)''' which might mean "...dona nobis pacem", or the third such title in order of the Trent codices, or maybe the second, with another ms. source having already claimed I or II, or even the full title given by a composer (as in Ann Callaway's [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/scores/callawayagnus.pdf ''Agnus dei I''], listed as ''Agnus Dei 1'' in the [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/Choral.html Arsis Press catalogue]). (2nd setting) is a bit anglophone-centric, but I do at least like the parentheses. <br />
:Thanks for raising this issue! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 17:01, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Richard, when I started editing on CPDL the current standards were pretty much established already, but I guess some older discussion can be found on this subject if one searches in the [[CW:BB]] or in the forums. The practice has been to add II (III etc.) to the title when a different setting of an otherwise homonym work is added. Regarding the use of parentheses to isolate the numbering, as in ''Agnus Dei (III)'', I believe it's a matter of personal taste. I particularly would never confuse ''Agnus Dei III'' with its third repetition :) I also prefer Roman numerals to Arabic ones. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 01:13, 12 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Funerary works ==<br />
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Hi Richard, Jonathan has suggested to create a category under this title, but I confess that I'm not knowledgeable enough on this subject to help him. Your opinion would be appreciated on my talk page. Thanks, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 06:05, 5 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Subgenre ==<br />
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I see that you introduced a new genre entry without any problem; way to go! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:46, 8 December 2012 (CST)<br />
:I was given very helpful hints! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:54, 9 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Lumen ad revelationem ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for correcting the category on this. I must say I was at something of a loss to think of how one would use a bit of the Nunc dimittis liturgically.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks also for the corrections you made to [[Dominica in Palmis (Emerico Lobo de Mesquita)|Dominica in Palmis]]! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Your edition of Victimae paschali laudes by Orlando di Lasso ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I'm working on this piece and I would like to check with you the last note of bass on bar 59 (G, syllable "Ma"). The Sämtliche Werke (Neue Reihe) edition published by Bärenreiter appears to have an F instead. Could you please confirm that the G is OK? Thank you. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 18:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I can't remember if it was an editorial choice or in whatever source I used then; the F seems implausible though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I'll use the G then. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 05:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== LinkText alternative text for link display ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I saw your query on [[Template talk:LinkText]] and have added a fix for that (just add new field "alt=Psalm 147 (vulgata)" to get "Psalm 147 (vulgata)" displayed as the link. I haven't documented it yet or expanded its functionality for more than one link yet, but you raised a good point that was easy to fix! &nbsp; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 14:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Very neat, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== S S Wesley Magnificat in E ==<br />
Hi, Richard.<br />
I agree that FF is more likely than EE in the Alto, bar 5, since ATB are otherwise in unison (or octaves). I've changed my edition accordingly. It would be good to get hold of an original source, but I can't find one on the web at all. Until then, at least my edition is usable, which the John Henry Fowler one wasn't!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 13:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Purcell anthems ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your useful additions to the Purcell anthems I've been uploading recently. Much appreciated. You may be able to help with a piece of notation that occasionally appears in the source document. This is :S:. My guess is that it is a form of repeat mark, but I have failed to find any confirmation of this, either on the internet, or in a couple of musical dictionaries that I've looked at.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 12:44, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I'll look later if there's a facsim. link; John Gosling uses something a bit like that for a trill. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:54, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, [http://imslp.org/wiki/Harmonia_Sacra_(Purcell,_Henry) pp36-7] is indeed no ornament but a ''segno.'' If two minim rests are understood it could work as a ''petit reprise''. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 08:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, thanks for that useful link. You'll notice from my most recent upload that I've added the Z number. When I get time, I'll go through the Purcell page and add the Z numbers to the other editions. Incidentally, the one I have just uploaded is the last one in the facsimile I was working from, so there will now be a hiatus, as far as Purcell is concerned!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasonal music ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I've just created [[ChoralWiki:Seasonal music]] in order to simplify your weekly updates. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 15:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think I can remember where to go in the future, and that's editable by non-admins who might want to take over, probably a good thing. Since it's less intuitive how to edit the Main page, should there be a pointer on Talk:? There's a little more on [[User talk:CHGiffen#Main page]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 10:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard, what did you have in mind when you proposed to automate this page? Should it be updated on a monthly basis, or is it preferable on a weekly basis? In that case, which day of the week would be best for the updates? If you already have an idea of what should be displayed on each month (or week), please post it on [[ChoralWiki talk:Seasonal music]] and I'll take care of the rest. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deus in adjutorium/Domine ad adjuvandum ==<br />
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Richard, I think you may not have fully appreciated to muddle I was trying to sort out! The ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' page was created by me in my first attempt to tidy up the text pages. That was before I related it properly to the ''Deus in adjutorium'' page, which makes it clear that the source text is the same. Some versions of ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' appeared on both text pages, some on neither. As a first step, putting everything on the same page seemed sensible. (This is of course about the Vespers versicle; there is also a separate page for the introit which draws on the same text.)<br />
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I think it's at least arguable that two separate text pages might be better, though there would need to be clear cross links, as with ''Tantum ergo'' and ''Pange lingua''. So your views on how best to do this, given your detailed understanding of the minutiae of Roman Catholic liturgy, would be welcome.<br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 17:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm often in [[Tota pulchra es|a muddle]] myself ;-) I think you did well to make a single page and regard them as the same text, and I imagine "Domine ad" settings would normally be preceded by an intoned "Deus in". I would urge though that non-standard versions be left on the work pages: One should be able learn that Gastoldi has some weird verse by looking [[Domine ad adiuvandum (Giovanni Gastoldi)|at this page]], and later someone can figure out what's up. [[Domine ad adjuvandum me (Orlando di Lasso)|Lasso's Offertory]] uses the Gradual's non-vulgate translation of Ps. 40 (If you want to really set your head spinning look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Psalters WP's Latin psalters article]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== cat vs vcat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, just a quick reminder: when linking to a voicing category as [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ave_Maria_(Charles_Gounod)&diff=next&oldid=497976 you did here], please remember to use {{tl|vcat}} instead of {{tl|cat}}. Otherwise the work may not be locatable by the Multi-Category Search when that specific voicing is searched for. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Nunc dimittis ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Could you explain what it is you were doing with the [[Nunc dimittis]] page? As near as I can tell, if you were trying to collect together settings that have been paired with a Magnificat (for Choral Evensong use in the Anglican tradition) and separate out all the others, then from what I can tell, the work is incomplete. On the other hand, an isolate ''Nunc dimittis'' (or ''Magnificat'') could just as well be intended as a part of an "Evening Service"&nbsp;&ndash; as my own setting is (and now appears orphaned along with a couple of other settings below the "Evening Service" list, and the same goes for the Mundy setting which was evidently intended for Anglican use. Any clarification (and cleanup) would be appreciated. Thanks! &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure; besides the self explanatory part, the 3 orphans are: *[[Nunc dimittis (Charles H. Giffen)]], [[Nunc Dimittis Canonico Johannes (Harrison Hackett)]], and [[Nunc Dimittis (William Mundy)]]. I didn't have enough information handy to decide to which they belonged, but didn't think to add a cleanup tag. Does the Mundy then have an accompanying Mag.? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't know if the Mundy has a matching, but I'd be surprised if it didn't. What about the Tim Risher, which has no matching Mag listed (as far as I can tell)? This aside, I wonder why the category {{CiteCat|Evening Canticles}} already does (or should do) the classification you're seeking. Are you planning to do the same thing to the [[Magnificat]] page? &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::(I did find the Mundy.) As I recall, I was interested in Latin settings at the time, and winnowing out "In English, as Part of an Evening Service" seemed a good idea. If you have thoughts on organizing the page, let's move to [[Talk:Nunc dimittis]], though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:34, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Pange Lingua ==<br />
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Thanks for your note, Richard.<br />
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No, there is no intention of recombining the Tantum ergo and Pange lingua pages. You may recall that there was a discussion about this a year or more back and the consensus was that a split would be appropriate, given the large number of settings and the different liturgical uses - you will know much more about the latter than I do!<br />
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There was an earlier discussion, which again you may recall, about whether the list of works on the text pages should be created automatically, (which is efficient, but cannot include information useful to the searcher, like voicing, or what parts of the text are used in a particular edition) or manually. The disadvantage of the manual list is that editors may neglect to add the relevant details to the text page.<br />
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Carlos has come up with a neat solution, which lists those editions which refer to the text page but do not appear in the manual list. There are two reasons for items being on that list; the obvious one, that the editor has neglected to add it, and a subtler one, that the name of the works page has been altered in some way, without all the relevant links being checked and altered accordingly.<br />
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What I have been doing when I come upon a page with a "missing items" list is to make the necessary manual additions, and adjustments to works page links that have been changed. <br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 18:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== I heard a voice from heaven - Tomkins ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that. I think what must have happened is that I've inadvertently deleted the Tomkins files while thinking they were the Goss or Morley settings, since I hadn't included the composer name in the file name. I've taken the opportunity to do a bit of tidying - the version I had originally done now looks rather cramped - but it should all be there now.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ich hebe meine Augen SWV 31 ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting the duplicated title. I'm not sure where it came from and deleting it caused some difficulty. However, now sorted, so I've removed the score error message. <br />
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On musica ficta, yes, you have interpreted it correctly. The only possible confusion might be that, in the source, the figured bass is also written above the stave and that has accidentals in it too. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 20:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I suppose so! Have you seen those Italian prints where the 'accidental' is on the staff but, when one peers closely enough, centered on the line or space a third above the bass note? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, in case you are not 'watching' my talk page, I've replied to your latest query about ''Ad te levavi animam meam'' there, to keep the thread together. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Da pacem, Domine]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I noticed that you moved this text page to the comma-less form. There are around 4-5 work titles that use the version with comma; should we standardize them by removing the comma? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, <br />
:I don't think so, unless a NoTi(tle) template for text pages is being contemplated. Work titles can follow the composer's (or even editor's) usage, while uniform text page title style (borrowed from Solsmes indexing style) is just to take some guesswork out of adding LinkText|unpunctuated title. For that reason I'd [[Category_talk:Voicing#Renaming Categories|still like to do something]] about the red {{CC|Solo soprano}} and the ridiculously cumbersome to remember [[Category talk:Hymn meters#Simpler meter names|hymn meter names.]] [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 21:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
::OK! I sometimes add commas to titles if I think it'll clarify their meaning, but I agree that for Latin this is not so common or even necessary. Regarding hymn meter names, this is a somewhat cryptic subject to me, sorry for not being able to contribute to the discussion. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Seid Barmherzig (Heinrich Schütz) ==<br />
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Unfortunately not, Richard. That was my initial thought, but bars 198-210 are different, although the notes are often the same. So I've rolled back your edit.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 21:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== O sacramentum pietatis ==<br />
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Hi Richard! After creating a text page for ''[[O sacramentum pietatis]]'', I noticed that [[O sacramentum pietatis H 260 (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)|the text used by Charpentier]] is completely different. Maybe you (or James?) could help identify the source of this second text? And how can we properly differentiate both titles, in your opinion? Thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 23:25, 29 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tota pulchra es (Gregorian chant) ==<br />
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Hi, Richard. You removed the 'Broken link' tag of [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) this edition/page]. It's a link to the Abel DiMarco's site, where we find two links: one for Palestrina and the other for Lassus. Where do we have to go to find the score? Please help the users. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Claude; sorry, I don't quite understand: I can click the link to Abel's site, click on T, get:<br />
*Tantum ergo. Partitura<br />
*Te lucis ante terminum. Partitura<br />
*Tollite portas. Partitura<br />
*Tota pulchra es. Partitura<br />
*Tu es qui venturus es?. Partitura<br />
*Turba multa. Partitura<br />
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:then (on the third try) clicking on Tota pulcra I get the advertised file with the Gregorian chant. Is there perhaps a different page that has ambiguous links? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:36, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, Richard. It's weird, when I click on T, get:<br />
::• Tota Pulchra es. Lassus (2 v. i.) Partitura <br />
::• Tota pulchra es. Palestrina (Coro 5 v.m.) Partitura <br />
::the page is that one: http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/t/<br />
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::BTW, I don't see how I could merge pages according to your suggestion [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Agnus_Dei_a_3_(Francesco_Lorenzo_Luciani) here] because I don't find the same underlay text, nor the same music. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::Weird indeed! There seem to be separate indexes for chant and polyphony. From your page I was finally able to click my way to http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/cantoral-gregoriano/#T The trick is to use the lower of the two indexes. Shall I revise the link on http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) ? <br />
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:::I don't remember what I was thinking about on the Luciani page, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hello guys! I, just like Richard, was only looking at the lower index that pointed to the correct work on that same page. Only now I noticed the other indexes above that lead to another page with polyphonic works. I've tweaked the {{CT|Website}} template so that now it adds the index automatically, based on work title (#T in this case). How do you like it? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 03:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That's great, thanks. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Thank you ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your (belated) welcome. And thanks for your kind words about my edition. [[User:D-fished|D-fished]] ([[User talk:D-fished|talk]]) 20:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Vater Abraham ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that I don't know the range of a concert flute! I've altered the files so that the second flute is an alto flute, duly transposing the notes and changing the description accordingly.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:37, 10 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== nonbot seeking dothint ==<br />
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hey richard! giovanni.cervo or senza punto at the thermodynamix postmastery? <br><br />
k regards <br><br />
Tulipo Petressian 19:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I don't own a dictionary with the word "dothint", sorry! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 07:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: sorry too, but the dothint wasn't even in the question. which was: please give me a clue about whether or not there would be a dot between name and surname in your mail address! Tulipo Petressian 08:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::Ah, I'm a little slow today; the spell-checker even suggested dot hint. Only one dot, between [appropriate substitution]mail and com.[[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 11:00, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::: phew, confusing botphobian riddling! allow me some slow thinking as well: I had no doubts about the dot between mail and com, so you are telling me there is no other dot, only a nondot between john and doe?! Tulipo Petressian 18:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:LOL, I'm loving this! "Talk ''nerdy'' to me." :)<br />
:That's it, Tulipo, no dots between john & doe. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 19:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: bravo, don c! (or would you prefer nondon?) Tulipo Petressian 19:39, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== work titles in quotes ==<br />
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hi richard! just noticed that putting work titles in quotes, as you proposed in ''"Pour forth no more" from Jephtha HWV 70'' (to add the jeptha source info) has the downside of putting them out of their expected alphabetical order, thus making them impossible to find if looking by initial character. Tulipo Petressian 22:40, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:A similar discussion is underway at [[Talk:Gloria all'Egitto (Triumphal scene from Aida) (Giuseppe Verdi)]], but unfortunately we haven't yet come up with a solution that pleases everybody. I also prefer to avoid beginning titles with quotes, for technical reasons other than the sorting issue you cite. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 02:01, 27 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::We avoid quotes in titles and there are now two movements edited, which I merged on the [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Jephtha,_HWV_70_(George_Frideric_Handel) work page] I created. Is that Ok? [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 08:02, 27 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::hi claude. for me,frankly: not ok. I would say the song title should be mentioned on the jephtha page, and indexed(is that the terminus techn.?). as it is now, typing "pour forth" into the search engine delivers no result. if you don't know that the aria is from jephtha, you're not going to find it on the site... cheers, Tulipo Petressian 08:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Richard_Mix&diff=593354User talk:Richard Mix2016-01-26T22:40:23Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* work titles in parenthesis */ new section</p>
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<div>==Problems submitting a score==<br />
Hi, I'm struggling to learn the ropes here. After a few abortive attempts at "Add scores to CPDL" I found one file under my contributions page: [[Image:Gaudeamus Battistini.pdf]] and have made an article page for it. <small>—The preceding [[ChoralWiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Richard Mix|Sparafucil]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richard Mix|contribs]]) on 18:16, 15 January 2008.</small><br />
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:Hi there. Welcome to CPDL and thank you for your edition! I'm sorry to hear that you're having difficulties. I've just created the [[Giacomo Battistini|composer page]] and added the works entry to it. Please supply the following information and I will format the score page correctly:<br />
:*Your real name<br />
:*The copyright that you are assigning to your edition (the preference is the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]] but you may apply any license to your edition; it would be a good idea to add this information to the bottom of the first page of the PDF too)<br />
:*A MIDI file would be very useful if you are able to create one (not required but useful)<br />
:When you come to your next score submission, please try to follow the score submission guide which I think is very clear. If you're having problems, please leave a message on [[User talk:Bobnotts|my talk page]], noting the part that you're having difficulties with and I will endevour to help. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:58, 15 January 2008 (PST)<br />
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== Beatus vir ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I had to revert your edits made to [[Beatus vir, RV 597 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 597]], because you were inadvertently removing the original info. You probably wanted to edit [[Beatus vir, RV 598 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 598]], right? What probably happened was that you clicked on page RV 598 and was "redirected" to RV 597 without noticing it. When we move a page to another name, the original name automatically receives a "redirect" code to the new page. If that's what happened, tell me and I will copy to RV 598 the edits you made, so that you don't lose what you had already done. Regards -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 21:40, 16 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:Yes, that was it! I thought there was something wrong; thanks for putting it right. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 18:38, 17 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::Hi Richard, here I am again. I'm not sure I understood what you did. The PDFs you uploaded to RV 598 specify on their first pages that they are from RV 597! Is that correct? From what I saw, ''Beatus vir'' RV 597 is in C major, and RV 598 is in B flat major. I think it would be a good idea also to check with the admins if CPDL allows pages hosting only the orchestra parts, without their corresponding vocal parts. -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:52, 19 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::Yes, the two pages now need to be swapped. How did you find the uploaded files? And where should I try contacting the admins (one is Rafael, I assume? I would think it only a matter of time before someone adds choral parts, but... ) tia, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 07:28, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::::Hi Richard, the two pages contents are now swapped, remember your scores are now in RV 597! I found your uploaded files looking at the upload log available at [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] in the left menu. Try asking your questions to admins here: [[ChoralWiki:Sheet music requests and questions]]. Regards! -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:39, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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== Redirects ==<br />
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Hi Richard!<br />
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I'd like to know if there is a reason why you created a redirect to [[When Israel came out of Egypt (William Byrd)|this work]]. If you type these exact words in the search box, the correct page will be the first (and only) to appear, so this redirect seems unnecessary. The same applies to the various Hanacpachap redirects you created. The variant spellings are all inside the works page, so someone searching for any of them should be able to find that work without the need of the redirects. <br />
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Redirects are usefull only in some specific situations, as when we use template <nowiki>{{ChoralWiki}}</nowiki> on Wikipedia to redirect to a page on CPDL and the Wikipedia article title is different from the title at CPDL. Regards —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 16:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Carlos,<br />
:I was only trying to turn a red link at [[Psalm 114]] blue, which is also easily accomplished by adding a first name. Is there a downside to having redirects? The only way I could find [[Hanacpachap]] before was to go to [[Anonymous#H|anonymous and look under H]], which took quite a few extra seconds;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard,<br />
::In fact redirects do increase a little bit the database's workload, since they need to be indexed too; we also have more work when we need to move the target page to a different title; but they are nonetheless useful in many situations. It's strange you couldn't find ''Hanacpachap'': if you try a search with this name the works page shows up. This is what we've been doing when possible: to add composer aliases and composition variant titles in the page text so they can be found easily via the Search tool. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, the only difference between "go" and "search" is the option to create a new page. I still have a WP habit of creating red links in preview mode to see what's there, but will try not to carry it over to CPDL (if you click on the one above you wont get any seach results at all). Shouldn't I have come across mention of this prefered strategy before somewhere? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Text sources ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for adding text sources to score pages. It really helps to make ChoralWiki a truly interlinked website. I had one doubt, though, [[Confitebor tibi Domine (Giovanni Gabrieli)]]. It looks more like parts of [[Psalm 9]] vv.2-3 & 16 to me (though I can't identify the entire text). Do you agree? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Dear Bob, <br>Thanks for the catch! The Vulgate lumps Ps's 9 & 10, so: 9:2-3, (I think you're right about 16), 12, 10:37a. Btw, re JSB I think you meant that it is preferable to have external links from a cpdl page as [[Cantata BWV 131 - Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir (Johann Sebastian Bach)|here]] (I'm looking into the title of bwv 131, often given as Aus der Tiefen). With all the material at bachcantatas.com it might be nice to have a BachCantata template. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about Sibelius 4 exporting to previous versions formats ==<br />
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Hi Richard I saw your question in John Patterson's talk page...Yes Sibelius 4(5 and now 6) gives you the possibility to save files so they can be opened with previous versions of Sibelius...that option is under the menu File and then Export (not "save as")...I hope it was helpful...[[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 02:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, it's only in Sib3 that it's under "save as SIb2 file". Thanks, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bach Cantatas ==<br />
:''(The other half of the conversation is [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Saniakob&oldid=214153 here])''<br />
Hi Richard, you are right...the reasons why I did that is because of organizational purposes...The page is still "under construction"...there are many things to fix...So for the moment I am ordering editions...and creating sections (like Cantatas, Chorales so on) to put things in order...once all editions are ordered I will work on each section....So far, the cantatas which have a page including all pieces are those which are complete...Cantatas which have only some pieces in CPDL are given as titles with the corresponding editions listed below...I pretend to change that in the future, but for now that is the criterion...Thanks for the suggestion and comment!![[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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My apologies Richard, now I see, your edition is of Movement 1 and I listed it in Movement 7 page...my mistake... There is a problem on making a page for the whole cantata when there are available only 2 Movements.If you see CPDL requires that the number of editions available must be mentioned...the cantatas which are complete and have editions of independent movements mention this "full score and independent movements" (or similar text). It is impossible to mention which movements are included in each page; it is note possible to write "some movements available" or to mention each movement next to the Cantata title. For clarity, the movements available are listed under the Cantata tile...This criterion is used in all CPDL pages, or at least is what I have been told by Admins...CPDL manager also added some templates to be used for the Cantatas section and did not object how things were, so I assume things are correctly organized... Regarding, languages and other mistakes on the edition pages... I will correct that in a near future, I am checking page by page...and taking notes on what needs to be fixed....For the moment, all of my time goes on finding the corresponding BWV catalog number for each entry on the page and checking if they are missatributions, translations or other stuff, as well as sending each edition to its corresponding section within the page...Regarding your suggestion of opening another Bach project in CPDL...I can't answer that...I think an Admin will give you a proper reply...Thanks again - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The discussion you mention is about merging pieces which are the same piece but with different titles translated to other languages. I will ask you please to stop changing things at the page. If you were concerned with Bach page you could have adopted it before. I took it and CPDL admins know about it. I appreciate your concern but undoing my work doesn't help. Since CPDL was created Bach page is a mess...and things are much ordered now. Please respect my decisions about the page management, there is 1 volunteer per page and with Bach page it happens to be me...If you have a complain direct it to the admins...I wouldn't like to report you for interfering because I know you try to help, but this is not the right way. Please be patient, things can't be fixed in 2 days, actually, I am volunteering since one month ago and there is a lot to do and the time I could use to improve the page I am spending undoing your changes because you don't respect my position as volunteer with the page. - Thanks [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 20:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Never mind. I step out. I am no longer volunteering with this page. Feel free to take the position, it is available.<br />
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Here is my reply to your comment in [[User_talk:CHGiffen#Bach_Cantatas|Mr. Giffen's talk page]]....<p>"I stepped out. I am no longer volunteering. Offer the position of volunteering with Bach Page to Mr. Mix who thinks he can do a much better job than me...I wish he would have made something when no one was maintaining the page for years and not just now when someone else started doing the job. I worked for 10 years as manager and copyist of a music repository at a university and I thought I knew some stuff of the trade...but I guess I was wrong. Besides, you modified things in the page (adding the templates for the cantatas) and you didn't told me anything about my way of organizing things...just now when I have this discussion you tell me about CPDL rules and make me look like a fool when I try to defend my point of view with Mr. Mix. Finally, If I did not read wrong, the Adopt a composer program states clearly that there is 1 volunteer per page...so "collaborative work" as Mr. Mix call it doesn't apply for some things...like changing things at will... I understand collaborative work is teaching people how to make a submission to CPDL correctly (which I did) because the information given by the site is confusing....or translating pages to other languages to make CPDL more accessible to everyone (which I also did)... I know perfectly what collaborative work is. I am a professional with enough experience in my field and I won't work under this conditions. Perhaps I misunderstood what CPDL was about...if that's the case then I am to blame. Thank you."</p><br />
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Things are exactly as they were before I took Bach page...so you can start the work in the way you love most...Best Regards - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 17:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Failed contributions==<br />
Hi Richard. You tried to contribute editions of two Mendelssohn pieces to CPDL on 21st July but I can't locate any files for these editions. Could you point me in the right direction, please? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sure- on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090724002639&target=Richard+Mix my contributions page] I still see: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).sib and http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).pdf on the page [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]], as well as two more files up at [[Im Wald. Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]]. Thanks, and hope I havnt unwittingly made anything harder. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry - my mistake. I found the page [[Im Walde, Op. 41, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] linked from the [[Mendelssohn]] page and when I didn't see your edition listed, I got confused! Nothing wrong with [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] but [[Im Wald Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] was missing a catalogue number and wasn't linked to from the main [[Mendelssohn]] page. I've fixed both of those things now. Thanks --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Sacred feasts ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for improving the texts of those categories, I never imagined this subject could be so complex :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 18:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Salve Regina]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your work on this page. You'll see that I moved the external link you added to under the "external links" section. I feel that we need to draw the line somewhere, otherwise people would add any vaugely relevant links to the settings list and clutter it up. I hope that's ok with you. <br />
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Also, you asked: "should all voicings redirect as SATB does?" in an edit summary for the page. Firstly, please don't use edit summaries to ask question - they should be used to give a brief summary of the edit and nothing else. The best place to ask questions is on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums]. To answer your question, though, there's no strict rule for redirects but generally I'd say that [[SATB]] is only a redirect because it's a voicing that's used so frequently. To add links to categories quickly (without categorising the page in the category), use the "CiteCat" template, like this: <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|SSATB}}</nowiki></tt>. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 15:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Text page links ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for all your help lately! Just thought I'd mention one thing: when you add a link to a text page from a score page, such as on [[Ave Maria, Op. 23, No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] and [[Laudate Dominum omnes gentes, III (Claudio Monteverdi)]], please try to remember to also update the text page to link back to the score page. That way, someone looking for a particular text can find all the settings of it on CW (in theory!) I've just updated the text pages for those score pages. I know it's easy to forget sometimes. Thanks again. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 12:16, 26 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Declare his honour - Henry Purcell ==<br />
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I hope I'm adding comments to the correct page, since it's not enirely obvious how one contacts people in Choral Wiki<br />
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With regard to my reformatting of the Fowler version of this, bar 75 should have read bar 74 (and the last note of bar 73), where the bass part seems to have been transposed down by a 6th. (This is fairly obvious when you play it back. It also corresponds with bar 247 of the Callon version of O sing unto the Lord). The same transposition seems to have occurred in the bass accompaniment in bar 76.<br />
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I have corrected these (and taken the liberty of removing your error message at the same time!) I've also uploaded new versions of the .pdf, .mid and .cap files.<br />
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I've found some oddities when uploading new versions of files. Although I uploaded a revised version of the .pdf file on 7th February, the file that was there when I opened it today appeared to be the original version. I have uploaded a new version and that seems now to be the version in Choral Wiki. However, the .cap file I uploaded at the same time seems not to have been uploaded, since it is still the old file which opens.<br />
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On the question of combining this with O sing unto the Lord, that is obviously a sensible move. However, from the point of view of practical use for singers, I don't think most choirs would make much use of the full version, so I would suggest there should still be a link on the Purcell main page for "Declare his honour", which redirects to "O sing unto the Lord"<br />
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:Welcome! A lot of useful discussion does happen on user talk pages; there are also the CPDL fora, which confusingly require a separate login even if you use the same name and password. If it's alright with you though, I'll copy the Purcell-specific discussion to [[Talk:O sing unto the Lord (Henry Purcell)]].<br />
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:Thanks for the corrections and clarifications! I'm not sure about the oddities yet, but will have another look, and add the error report to Fowler. <br />
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:I agree about the redirect in case anyone searches under "D". This is handled by turning subpage Declare His Honor (Henry Purcell) into a redirect. It isnt necessary to have the file in two places, as with the redundant Agnus Dei (Marc-Antoine Charpentier): here I think even a redirect to [[Messe de Minuit pour Noël (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)]] is unneeded. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gaudeamus omnes (Giacomo Battistini)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. [[User:Sparafucil]] once uploaded an edition of the work above, but the name in the score is yours! Was Sparafucil an old account you were using before registering as Richard Mix? Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I'd forgotten. Can you delete the account? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Better yet, I've merged the old account into the new one, to unify your contributions. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Motets ==<br />
Hi Richard, I've noticed you 'depopulated' the liturgical music cat in favour of 'motet' on one of my contributions. As you may have noticed, there is a discussion on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4853 forums] about this issue, as yet without decisive outcome. In the case of Mondondone's "Deus in adiutorium", I disagree with your categorisation - it is an office versicle with a clear an unequivocal functional role, pretty much unimaginable in any other context. As for the stylistic issues, those remain to be debated, as you can see on the forums. Would you consider contributing to the discussion? [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 13:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you for the pointer! I'll try to sort it out what I think... I suppose though we're not in disagreement that category:Office versicles would ultimately be more easily searchable than "liturgical music"? In the meantime, we could make a [[Deus in ajutorium]] textpage (maybe just a redirect to a sub-section of [[Psalm 70]]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Psalms ==<br />
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Richard, not sure if I'm doing this the right way, since it doesn't seem immediately intuitive how to reply to comments from someone.<br />
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I suppose the psalm chants I've been adding are an anthology, in the sense that they are the ones we generally use in the choir that I belong to. The only reason that I've set them is Capella is that I got tired of illegible photocopies of words and music. Capella isn't brilliant at handling words if they are not set as lyrics under the notes, so I add the relevant text from a Word file and print the same page twice, once with the chant and once with the text. However, as I only do this when a new psalm comes to be sung, the set is not complete. <br />
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I'm not clear how (or where) I should put them if they were to be presented as an anthology. Would they still appear on the composer pages, but just with a different title?<br />
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On the small "c" for chant issue, I've been puzzled by why the link still appeared in red when I added a score, so that explains it. I haven't typed it in with an upper case C; that's provided by the dropdown list from "Add scores to CPDL". I'll correct by hand for the moment, but it might be useful if someone could alter the dropdown list eventually, to eliminate the problem automatically.<br />
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:Hi James, seems right enough to me. There is a confusing choice of venues around cpdl, and a lot gets done on usertalk pages like this. I raised the dropdown bug at the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4935 operation & implementation] forum (these require a second login and password) and it may be fixed already. I also proposed hashing out psalm naming conventions on the [[Category talk:Anglican chants|category talk page]]; maybe we'll be joined by others. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Praeter rerum seriem ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I have to take exception with your designation of the [[Praeter rerum seriem (Anonymous)]] as being a Gregorian chant source rather than simply Anonymous. If you'll examint the setting, you'll see that it is a triple rhythm tune that is wholly inconsistent with being Gregorian chant, in spite of the text being a Marian sequence. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Charles! Maybe we differ on a definition of "Gregorian" rather than the particulars of the piece. Rhythmisized chant is squarely in that tradition, if I may so speak, and one may consider the long-short ''[[Of the Father's love begotten (Anonymous)|Divinum mysterium)]]'' to be the same piece as the unmeasured notation. <br />
:But I may just be confused about the 'original' ''Praeter rerum''. On a casual inspection, it looks like a Gregorian chant has been used as a tenor by Josquin, and that it differs in a few pitch details (second note, strain 2, and a few extra notes) from a chant book version, which can be adjusted to Josquin's rhythm. Does a different Gregorian melody exist? And did you have a mensural source for what the page calls "the Latin hymn"? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franz Schubert - Fünf Duette ==<br />
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Good morning Richard. Thank you for the cleaning of the Fünf Duette page. The problem i had with the newline character seems solved now. I can continue editing. [[User:BenZene|BenZene]] 08:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vidi aquam confusion ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I basically reverted your edits to [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]], since I think you didn't check the PDFs for the two recently posted scores. Each of these postings consists of THREE settings of Vidi aquam (so perhaps calling them I and II is a bit confusing). At any rate, (I) contains the three settings (all 3-part) from tr93 (pages 5v-6r, 6v-7r, 7v-8r), and (II) contains three settings (only the middle one is 4-part) from tr88 (pp 223v-224r) and tr89 (pp 228v-229r and 229v-230r). Only the first tr89 (pp 228v-229r) is 4-part.<br />
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I checked the pdf for [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]] but not looking at [[Vidi aquam I (Anonymous)]] misconstrued it as a separate work page for what I guess is Vidi aquam 5 [or maybe IIb?] (Anonymous). Thanks for the catch, and I hope you add the foliation info! Do you agree that there's something a bit wrong with the page names and that perhaps a merge if not a split is in order? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Given the way in which the 6 settings of Vidi aquam have been published here in two groups of three each, I'm tempted to suggest that they be merged onto one page, perhaps titled something like<br />
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Makes perfect sense to me. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 08:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Also for me. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== La cieca (Giovanni Ghizzolo) ==<br />
Richard, I'm not quite sure the canges you applied to the voicing cat on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/La_cieca_%28Giovanni_Ghizzolo%29 this] page are for the better. Any user interested in this sort of repertoire is unlikely to search for "Amarilli" as a solo voice type, is he? Besides, to the best of my knowledge, this change would make it one of the few (if any) pages where voicing information is mixed with/replaced by content. I'm not sure that labelling, say, Bach's Matthew Passion as containing "Christ" instead of "bass solo" would be the way to move forward. Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 15:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, The names of course are "piped" and link to Category:Solo Soprano and Category:Solo Tenor. I found the former ST choir designation more confusing myself; now I hope it is clear that the chorus is SSB and the other movements are dialogues for male & female soloists, but maybe you devise something better. Btw, thanks for the [[Mnogaya lyeta (Traditional)]] lyrics! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Voicing for [[I will worship towards thy holy temple (Arthur Sullivan)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I rolled back your voicing change. I'm not sure about the separate choir specification, but, if you look at mm 104-126, you'll see that at least 7 different voices are required (albeit at most 6 sing at any one time). Because of the way the score is laid out, I'm inclined to leave the two-choir voicing (rather than 7vv SSATTBB). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see what you mean. The layout implies choir two SA & TB each in unison. I dont suppose we can have 6|SATB.SATB, which would be my prefered version ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 03:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Say, Watchman, What of the Night? (Arthur Sullivan)|Say, watchman, what of the night?]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your comments, Richard. I think it almost certain that Sullivan, as an accomplished organist, would have specified organ accompaniment for a sacred work, so I must have had my mind not properly in gear to specify something else when entering the details! I've corrected the missing note in the accompaniment of bar 19 and also spotted a couple of misdirected tails, which didn't get automatically changed when I transposed it up a tone in Capella. I've reloaded updated versions of the files.<br />
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The small notes in the accompaniment are not intended to indicate rehearsal only. It's just that, by making the accompaniment small, I can get three systems on an A4 page in Capella in a readable form. (You can probably guess from this that I am a singer, rather than a keyboard player!) If the original indicates "for rehearsal only", I generally make this explicit.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah well, organists are expected to do the superhuman anyway: in this case to transpose a half step while the choir has the convenience of reading in one flat. This must have been before transposer knobs. I must say your version in G raises the bar for the minor mode passages! ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The way is long and dreary ==<br />
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(A title that makes you frantic to sing the piece!) When I was playing this back before submitting it this morning, parts of it sounded vaguely familiar. In fact, the Douglas Walczak Agnus Dei is an extract from this longer anthem, removing the Adelaide Procter bits. So I think they should somehow be linked, but have no idea how to do it myself. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 11:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I was going to wade in here and suggest putting a "See also:" (or "Also see:") item at the end of the "Music files" section for each work, with links between the two works pages (and even do it myself as an example as to illustrate how to do this in the future) &ndash; until I realized that we don't have the Walczak ''Agnus Dei'' at {{CW}}! So, instead, I would suggest simply adding a note in the "Description:" section in the Sullivan about the Walczak piece. There are several examples of the "See also:" usage &ndash; one at [[Advent Anthem (The Advent moon shines cold and clear) (Douglas Brooks-Davies)|''Advent Anthem'']] by [[Douglas Brooks-Davies]] interlinking with my own [[This Advent moon (Charles H. Giffen)|''This Advent moon'']] (which is why I know of the technique). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 12:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: Great idea Chuck, but wouldnt it logically go under '''General information;'''? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hassler Ave maris stella ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I really don't understand your instance on duplicating information in the Edition notes for both editions that is descriptive of the work and not of the editions. I already moved the fact that the chant (and cantus firmus) is mixolydian to the Description section. Moreover, there is no musical difference between the editions: indeed, the polyphony is the same for all three even verses. It just so happens that the Kelecom edition reproduces the music three times, once for each odd verse chant and once for each verse polyphony, while the earlier edition uses the more economical route of providing the chant and polyphony once, with the verses underlaid threefold. As for the question whether the music is transposed (or not) and because both editions share the same fate on this issue, my preference in such situation at CPDL is to leave the matter of announcing "F miixolydian" in the two editions out, until such time as we have sure knowledge of any transposition from the original work (Hassler was not above transposed modes in other works). Elsewhere, when there are more than one edition transposed to the same key (along with the original or other transpositions), we usually group editions with the same transposition under a single heading, such as with [[If ye love me (Thomas Tallis)]]. With this in mind, I hope you will reconsider what amounts to a restoration of your previous edits as an addition after my own edit (which was an attempt to avoid redundancy). I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Chuck! I'm not sure ''If ye love me'' is typical in this regard, though it is a clever solution. If there is no 'redundancy', it's not even clear the editions are at the same pitch, and we have to assume the general info has the correct original key. Thanks for prodding me, though: I'm beginning a long download of DdT to see what can be found there... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: Hi again Richard. Both editions are indeed "at the same pitch", 2 flats in the k.s., cantus firmus beginning on F, note values apparently halved from the original (pretty common). I do note that the Kelecom edition leaves off the 7th verse (chant, missed that previously). I'd be interested to learn what the DdT download turns up. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::...and the piece is in neither ''Cantiones Sacrae'' nor ''Sacri Concentus''. A search in Grove only gets hits for soAVE and bellAVEre, so I guess we're dealing with a contrafactum. Assuming something else turns up, do we replace the edition notes "in F mixolydian" with "original key" both times? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Palestrina Mags ==<br />
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Dear Richard,<br />
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Many thanks for your clarifications and alterations concerning the tricky question of Palestrina Magnificat settings - what you've done now is an immensurably better state of affairs than was in place before - many thanks indeed! Hopefully other people will latch on to the new system and either style their editions with the new clarification system or leave the editions in question open to clarification by contributors such as yourself. Unless I'm being thick, is it the case that there are multiple sections/chapters within the Magnificat octo tonum liber primus (Rome, 1591) publication (although bearing in mind the other Magnificats which were unpublished in 1591 and remain in manuscript form (although transcribed by haberl))? There was only this one publication, according to Grove, and I am unaware of any others. How is the 'book' system that you use set up? I am aware of the division of Haberl's volume into sections, but I can't remember how. Are you able to shed any light on this?<br />
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Re: Lassus Mags, if you're happy to send me facsimiles of Haberl, then I'll happily transcribe them! :-)<br />
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Also, on your own user page, you might want to update the number of scores you've contributed from 1 to the relevant number larger than 1. I wish this acted as a little counter and updated itself!<br />
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Best wishes,<br><br />
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:I was just going by [http://imslp.org/wiki/XXXV_Magnificat_(Palestrina,_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da)], of which the first part is the 1591 "liber primus" (divided into odd and even), but I see that [http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da_Palestrina] doesnt list the subsequent 'liber's! I'll try downloading the forward to see if they had title pages... <br />
:... Ouf, my poor Latin, but Haberl's own Book Two title page clears things up a little: ''Magnificat octotonum quaternis vocibus. (liber secundus.) auctore Petraloysio Praestino nunc primum ex codice cappelae juliae ad S. Petrum Romae in partitionem redigit et edidit Fr. Xav. Haberl.'' A first edition! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Avoiding overcounting your editions ==<br />
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Hi Richard. The "Whatlinkshere" template does indeed overcount editions, because it provides a list of pages with links of any kind (not just links from Sheet music pages generated by the Editor template). That is why I created the "<EditorName> editions" categories. Replacing <tt><nowiki>{{Whatlinkshere}}</nowiki></tt> oh your User page with <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}</nowiki></tt> will solve the problem. Be aware that this will undercount your editions if you have more than one edition listed on a given works page. But at least it provides a shorter list to check (if you suspect you have duplications, as I do). Best wishe. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 22:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm still a little confused- There must be something missing from the template syntax {{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}, since [[:Category:Richard Mix editions]] is a blue link... Got it now, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: My bad... there should be a "|" after CiteCat, not a ":" ... sorry! I corrected the citation in my previous post above. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Missa quinque vocum (Mogens Pedersøn)]] ==<br />
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I think you were right in your edit summary, Richard, so I have returned the layout to a single edition incorporating all the assigned catalogue numbers in the edition notes as before. I came to this conclusion mainly because it is the same score link for all the movements. Feel free to revert. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 06:24, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OT post-Pentecost blunder ==<br />
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Hi Richard. You are entirely right - after I swapped Pentecost IX and X, I realized that you were problably right in putting X before IX for precisely the reason you gave in your edit summary. I hope you like the appearance of the wikitable format better, though. I'll make another pass through the Sundays after Pentecost to do a few cleanup and tidying chores, at least when I get a chance! Many thanks for taking on the organization of these liturgical categories. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the tidying, and it's just as well what I've typed in a hurry so far gets double-checked! <br />
:I've always copied code for tables from any old place I stumble across an example, but is there an official help page somewhere? I just noticed that [[Piae Cantiones]] has a sortable list, which might be handy for the [[Ordinary Time]] table. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Verse anthem? ==<br />
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Hi Richard. In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hosanna_to_the_Son_of_David_%28Orlando_Gibbons%29&diff=prev&oldid=259680 this edit], you labelled [[Hosanna to the Son of David (Orlando Gibbons)]] as a verse anthem. I thought I would double check we're agreed on this, as according to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_anthem Wikipedia article] and my limited knowledge on the subject, this surely is not a verse anthem but a full anthem. Was your edit a mistake? I have changed it back, at least for the time being. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You're absolutely right! I think I might have had [[Behold, I bring you glad tidings (Orlando Gibbons)]] on my mind at the time... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jesu, word of God incarnate in The Anthem Book ==<br />
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Regarding your question as to whether this was a version of Gounod's Ave Maria, my mind wasn't properly in gear, because I tend to think of that as Bach-Gounod. The answer is that it definitely isn't that, though I don't know what the original words might have been. I'll get round to submitting it shortly and check whether it matches any of the other Gounod stuff already uploaded.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 23:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:No, [[Talk:The Anthem Book|I meant]] the [[Ave verum corpus|other ''Ave'']] of which JwoGi is the common translation. Btw, I finally brought the Methodists around to Latin by showing them how much better the English fit [[Ave Verum, Op. 2, No. 1 (Edward Elgar)|Elgar's setting]] than the Latin, and then later persuading them that, visa-versa, they didnt really want to sing "Jesu, Worduv, God incarnate" in the Mozart. Iirc, Elgar composed to a different Latin hymn originally, publishing it as Avc later. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yes, clearly my mind wasn't properly in gear when I replied. It is of course Ave Verum Corpus, rather than Ave Maria. I've actually never sung it to the English works, whether Mozart, Elgar or Byrd, so didn't immediately recognise the connection. Interesting about the Elgar being set to different text originally.<br />
I can't open the file under 7 motetten, but the music looks the same as the Ornes version on CPDL. I guess it's probably worth putting it up with English words too. James Gibb<br />
:Nice, a blue link then! Now we just have to [[Talk:Ave verum I (Charles Gounod)|sort out the targent page name]]... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Fuerunt mihi lacrimae (Alfonso Ferrabosco II)|Fuerunt mihi lacrymae]] ==<br />
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Richard, you are quite right to suggest E minor rather than G for the transposed key. Rather too many D sharps for me to contradict you convincingly. I've added the actual allocation of the parts for the SATB version, which seems to chime with the Fowler TTBB allocation, though I've moved one low B in the S up an octave for convenience.<br />
I assume it's your addition of F minor to the Fowler edition, but I think it should be up a minor 2nd, not a minor third, unless you are referring to an edition I have no seen.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 16:06, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
:I'm just guessing that d is a plausible original key, the minor third being a popular transposition for editors of English music. If you based yours on the Fowler, then that would be _down_ a minor second! Maybe better not to speculate; I'd better try to remember take a look next time I'm at the library, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:50, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== 2 cents ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your comments on my talk page. I had decided not to continue replying to the gentleman of very set opinion. Regards, Paul Marchesano [[User:Marchesa|Marchesa]] 20:56, 29 April 2011 (CDT)<br />
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==[[Ewig dein WoO 161 (Ludwig van Beethoven)| "Ewig Dein"]] - Voicing ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for your revision. I'm pretty new on this pages. But in case you decide to perform the canon with mixed choir (for example SST), the voicing isn't equal any more. Is this a problem? [[User:B.peterson|bp]] 08:16, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
:Not for me personally ;-) (A purist within earshot might take issue with the resulting 64 inversions.) <br />
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:But the voicing template doesn't need to foresee every possible performance option: for a cappella works we often list AATBB in the General info. section and let editors add Category:SSATB in their Edition notes, and I see that [[Say, wanton, will you love me? (Thomas Weelkes)]] might be treated this way. Welcome to CPDL, and thanks for your editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:30, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== tidying up duplicate page ==<br />
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"(Deletion log); 19:46 . . Richard Mix (Talk | contribs) deleted "Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen" (Superfluous page: duplicates Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen (Friedrich Silcher))"<br />
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Thank you Richard, this was my first submission to CPDL, now I know that when you edit the composer's page first, you get the desired ''Title (Composer)'' suggested. Regards -- [[User:KlausFoehl|KlausFoehl]] 17:29, 16 July 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glen O'Brien) ==<br />
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Thank you Richard for an appropriate page for the arrangement. My name is actually spelt Glenn O'Brien.[[User:Glennobrien|Glennobrien]] 09:42, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
:You're welcome, and very sorry about that! I noticed you already fixed a couple of things, and I've just moved the page to [[Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glenn O'Brien)]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:45, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Magnificat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for the improvements to the page; it makes more sense indeed to have the Latin text come first. I'll see if I can improve it a bit more, putting the remaining translations in two columns. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 09:30, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Thanks for your sharp eyes on the Greek, too; I'll ask another question on [[Talk:Magnificat]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:42, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Carols for Choirs ==<br />
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Hi Richard<br />
I am in the process of spreading sortable tables through the ''…for Choirs'' pages, and came across your suggestion to merge the Carols for Choirs pages ([[Carols for Choirs 1]], 1 Sept, 2011).<br />
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Is [[Carols for Choirs|this]] the sort of thing you had in mind?. Would it make sense to have any discussion about this [[Talk:Carols for Choirs|here]]?<br />
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[[User:Peter Gibson|Peter Gibson]] 07:57, 7 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the note! [[Talk:Carols for Choirs]] indeed makes sense. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:17, 8 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Musica Divina transcriptions ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for the additional information you are adding to the Musica Divina editions I've been transcribing. I would do it myself, if I knew which categories existed!<br />
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I've also noticed that you've added an original pitch and note length version of Lassus's Dextera Domini. As a couple of people have asked that I upload "unaltered" versions as well, my intention is to go back through the stuff I've already uploaded and do just that. (It's relatively easy, since I do the transcription into original clefs and note lengths to minimise transcription mistakes, and only then make any adjustments) I'm certainly not going to duplicate work that you've already done; this is just to let you know that providing originals (with modern clefs) is high up on my to-do list.<br />
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Your email address on your CPDL page appears not to work, by the way, but perhaps I interpreted it too literally.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 02:29, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:I was just about to write you congratulations and also see if we can better divide up Lassus: I already have on hand a lot of the offertory motets for 4 vv: Benedic anima; Benedicam Dom.; Benedictus es...doce; Confitebor tibi; Dextera Dom.; Dom. convertere; Dom. in auxilium; Dom vivifica me; Exaltabo te; Expectans; Gressus meos; Illumina oculos; Immittet angelus; Improperium; In te speravi; Intende voci; Jubilate Deo; Lauda anima mea; Meditabor, Perfice gressus; Populum humilium; Precatus es; Scapulis suis; Sperunt in te. What a drag that we're using incompatible programs, otherwise we'd have really powerful proofreading tools!<br />
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:Hotmail is what I hope the non-bots will guess, btw. ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Thanks. I'll do a skim through the Lassus that is available on the Musica Divina motets and let you know which ones aren't on your list, or otherwise available on CPDL. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 08:52, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Of the 20 Lassus motets that are in Musica Divina Vol II, the following don't currently appear in CPDL:<br />
:Benedicite Gentes<br />
:Domine in auxilium meum respice<br />
:Factus est Dominus firmamentum<br />
:In te speravi Domine<br />
:Joannes est nomen eius<br />
:Sperent in te omnes<br />
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I think these are all 4-part, but I haven't checked individually. There may be other motet-like things appearing in the other volumes, but I'll check that later. Given that you've already done the 4th and the 6th on the list, and assuming that you have another source anyway, I suggest that I pick the remaining 4, unless you have already started on any of them, Richard.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:12, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Didn't notice that you had included Domine in Auxilium on your list, so I've now uploaded copies of Benedicite Gentes, Factus est Dominus firmamentum and Joannes est nomen eius. I've also uploaded a 4-part version of Eripe me, since the version currently on CPDL is a 3-part one. All at original pitch and note value secundum Proske, although I've also uploaded a transposed version of Eripe me, since it goes so low that only proper basses can get there with any confidence!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:11, 14 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Incomplete Editions ==<br />
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LOL Richard, it seems we were having similar thoughts, but posted in different places; only after opening a discussion at [[Template talk:IncompleteEdition]] I saw that you had also done it at [[Category talk:Incomplete editions]]. Please check there too! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 19:34, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Done, and point about thin skins taken, though inapplicable to latest new contributor, I trust. Ciao! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:35, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
::Hi, thanks for your comments on the template talk page. I'm still thinking about the various possibilities and will reply you soon. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:47, 21 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Veni sponsa Christi ==<br />
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Good point, Richard. I actually read it as bride, but without thinking of the inappropriate connotations! Incidentally, I've noticed that some of the additions you are making in the form of "Common of..." are coming up red, presumably because the appropriate category page has yet to be created. At the moment, that's rather beyond my job group, though I hope to improve!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 12:14, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
:You're [[Veni Sponsa Christi (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)|not the first]], nor was [[Veni, Sponsa Christi (Peter Philips)|Mick the last]]! I should have remembered the text via Couperin's Motets de Ss Anne & Suzanne. <br />
:Even now the redlinks can be used to see what other pieces are gathered but they should of course be turned blue eventually to standardize {{CiteCat|Common of Virgins}} (correct, according to Palmer/Burgess) vs. {{CiteCat|Common of a Virgin}} (top of my head) and also to be gathered as subcategories of {{CiteCat|Common of Saints}}. Carlos & Chuck were [[Category talk:Sacred music by season|very helpful with Sacred music by season]] and once I refresh my memory I'll have a go at the coding; in the meantime I remain in amazed admiration of your industry in making beautiful editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:44, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Sheppard's [[In manus tuas (John Sheppard)|In manus tuas]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for making the titles uniform. I was thinking that perhaps we could rename all three of them to the usual ''In manus tuas I'', ''II'' and ''III'', what do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 08:32, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Yes, that would be more in line with prevailing practice and I considered it; on the other hand, it suggests that the non-parenthetical roman numeral is part of the original title, or at least a generally accepted numbering. I don't know if that is in fact the case... Are you aware of any previous discussions towards a cpdl style manual? At present we have:<br />
*'''title ''a'' N (composer)''' where it is possible to disambiguate by number of voices<br />
*'''title (composer) (voci (im-)pari)''' where there are mixed- and 'equal-' (better unmixed?) voice versions<br />
*'''Magnificat N toni (composer) ((im-)pari)''' for alternatim settings<br />
:All the above convey a lot of information to browsers of categories and have some historical precedent as well. Then we have:<br />
*'''Agnus Dei III (anonymous)''' which might mean "...dona nobis pacem", or the third such title in order of the Trent codices, or maybe the second, with another ms. source having already claimed I or II, or even the full title given by a composer (as in Ann Callaway's [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/scores/callawayagnus.pdf ''Agnus dei I''], listed as ''Agnus Dei 1'' in the [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/Choral.html Arsis Press catalogue]). (2nd setting) is a bit anglophone-centric, but I do at least like the parentheses. <br />
:Thanks for raising this issue! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 17:01, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Richard, when I started editing on CPDL the current standards were pretty much established already, but I guess some older discussion can be found on this subject if one searches in the [[CW:BB]] or in the forums. The practice has been to add II (III etc.) to the title when a different setting of an otherwise homonym work is added. Regarding the use of parentheses to isolate the numbering, as in ''Agnus Dei (III)'', I believe it's a matter of personal taste. I particularly would never confuse ''Agnus Dei III'' with its third repetition :) I also prefer Roman numerals to Arabic ones. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 01:13, 12 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Funerary works ==<br />
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Hi Richard, Jonathan has suggested to create a category under this title, but I confess that I'm not knowledgeable enough on this subject to help him. Your opinion would be appreciated on my talk page. Thanks, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 06:05, 5 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Subgenre ==<br />
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I see that you introduced a new genre entry without any problem; way to go! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:46, 8 December 2012 (CST)<br />
:I was given very helpful hints! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:54, 9 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Lumen ad revelationem ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for correcting the category on this. I must say I was at something of a loss to think of how one would use a bit of the Nunc dimittis liturgically.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks also for the corrections you made to [[Dominica in Palmis (Emerico Lobo de Mesquita)|Dominica in Palmis]]! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Your edition of Victimae paschali laudes by Orlando di Lasso ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I'm working on this piece and I would like to check with you the last note of bass on bar 59 (G, syllable "Ma"). The Sämtliche Werke (Neue Reihe) edition published by Bärenreiter appears to have an F instead. Could you please confirm that the G is OK? Thank you. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 18:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I can't remember if it was an editorial choice or in whatever source I used then; the F seems implausible though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I'll use the G then. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 05:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== LinkText alternative text for link display ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I saw your query on [[Template talk:LinkText]] and have added a fix for that (just add new field "alt=Psalm 147 (vulgata)" to get "Psalm 147 (vulgata)" displayed as the link. I haven't documented it yet or expanded its functionality for more than one link yet, but you raised a good point that was easy to fix! &nbsp; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 14:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Very neat, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== S S Wesley Magnificat in E ==<br />
Hi, Richard.<br />
I agree that FF is more likely than EE in the Alto, bar 5, since ATB are otherwise in unison (or octaves). I've changed my edition accordingly. It would be good to get hold of an original source, but I can't find one on the web at all. Until then, at least my edition is usable, which the John Henry Fowler one wasn't!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 13:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Purcell anthems ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your useful additions to the Purcell anthems I've been uploading recently. Much appreciated. You may be able to help with a piece of notation that occasionally appears in the source document. This is :S:. My guess is that it is a form of repeat mark, but I have failed to find any confirmation of this, either on the internet, or in a couple of musical dictionaries that I've looked at.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 12:44, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I'll look later if there's a facsim. link; John Gosling uses something a bit like that for a trill. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:54, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, [http://imslp.org/wiki/Harmonia_Sacra_(Purcell,_Henry) pp36-7] is indeed no ornament but a ''segno.'' If two minim rests are understood it could work as a ''petit reprise''. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 08:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, thanks for that useful link. You'll notice from my most recent upload that I've added the Z number. When I get time, I'll go through the Purcell page and add the Z numbers to the other editions. Incidentally, the one I have just uploaded is the last one in the facsimile I was working from, so there will now be a hiatus, as far as Purcell is concerned!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasonal music ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I've just created [[ChoralWiki:Seasonal music]] in order to simplify your weekly updates. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 15:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think I can remember where to go in the future, and that's editable by non-admins who might want to take over, probably a good thing. Since it's less intuitive how to edit the Main page, should there be a pointer on Talk:? There's a little more on [[User talk:CHGiffen#Main page]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 10:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard, what did you have in mind when you proposed to automate this page? Should it be updated on a monthly basis, or is it preferable on a weekly basis? In that case, which day of the week would be best for the updates? If you already have an idea of what should be displayed on each month (or week), please post it on [[ChoralWiki talk:Seasonal music]] and I'll take care of the rest. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deus in adjutorium/Domine ad adjuvandum ==<br />
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Richard, I think you may not have fully appreciated to muddle I was trying to sort out! The ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' page was created by me in my first attempt to tidy up the text pages. That was before I related it properly to the ''Deus in adjutorium'' page, which makes it clear that the source text is the same. Some versions of ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' appeared on both text pages, some on neither. As a first step, putting everything on the same page seemed sensible. (This is of course about the Vespers versicle; there is also a separate page for the introit which draws on the same text.)<br />
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I think it's at least arguable that two separate text pages might be better, though there would need to be clear cross links, as with ''Tantum ergo'' and ''Pange lingua''. So your views on how best to do this, given your detailed understanding of the minutiae of Roman Catholic liturgy, would be welcome.<br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 17:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm often in [[Tota pulchra es|a muddle]] myself ;-) I think you did well to make a single page and regard them as the same text, and I imagine "Domine ad" settings would normally be preceded by an intoned "Deus in". I would urge though that non-standard versions be left on the work pages: One should be able learn that Gastoldi has some weird verse by looking [[Domine ad adiuvandum (Giovanni Gastoldi)|at this page]], and later someone can figure out what's up. [[Domine ad adjuvandum me (Orlando di Lasso)|Lasso's Offertory]] uses the Gradual's non-vulgate translation of Ps. 40 (If you want to really set your head spinning look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Psalters WP's Latin psalters article]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== cat vs vcat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, just a quick reminder: when linking to a voicing category as [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ave_Maria_(Charles_Gounod)&diff=next&oldid=497976 you did here], please remember to use {{tl|vcat}} instead of {{tl|cat}}. Otherwise the work may not be locatable by the Multi-Category Search when that specific voicing is searched for. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Nunc dimittis ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Could you explain what it is you were doing with the [[Nunc dimittis]] page? As near as I can tell, if you were trying to collect together settings that have been paired with a Magnificat (for Choral Evensong use in the Anglican tradition) and separate out all the others, then from what I can tell, the work is incomplete. On the other hand, an isolate ''Nunc dimittis'' (or ''Magnificat'') could just as well be intended as a part of an "Evening Service"&nbsp;&ndash; as my own setting is (and now appears orphaned along with a couple of other settings below the "Evening Service" list, and the same goes for the Mundy setting which was evidently intended for Anglican use. Any clarification (and cleanup) would be appreciated. Thanks! &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure; besides the self explanatory part, the 3 orphans are: *[[Nunc dimittis (Charles H. Giffen)]], [[Nunc Dimittis Canonico Johannes (Harrison Hackett)]], and [[Nunc Dimittis (William Mundy)]]. I didn't have enough information handy to decide to which they belonged, but didn't think to add a cleanup tag. Does the Mundy then have an accompanying Mag.? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't know if the Mundy has a matching, but I'd be surprised if it didn't. What about the Tim Risher, which has no matching Mag listed (as far as I can tell)? This aside, I wonder why the category {{CiteCat|Evening Canticles}} already does (or should do) the classification you're seeking. Are you planning to do the same thing to the [[Magnificat]] page? &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::(I did find the Mundy.) As I recall, I was interested in Latin settings at the time, and winnowing out "In English, as Part of an Evening Service" seemed a good idea. If you have thoughts on organizing the page, let's move to [[Talk:Nunc dimittis]], though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:34, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Pange Lingua ==<br />
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Thanks for your note, Richard.<br />
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No, there is no intention of recombining the Tantum ergo and Pange lingua pages. You may recall that there was a discussion about this a year or more back and the consensus was that a split would be appropriate, given the large number of settings and the different liturgical uses - you will know much more about the latter than I do!<br />
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There was an earlier discussion, which again you may recall, about whether the list of works on the text pages should be created automatically, (which is efficient, but cannot include information useful to the searcher, like voicing, or what parts of the text are used in a particular edition) or manually. The disadvantage of the manual list is that editors may neglect to add the relevant details to the text page.<br />
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Carlos has come up with a neat solution, which lists those editions which refer to the text page but do not appear in the manual list. There are two reasons for items being on that list; the obvious one, that the editor has neglected to add it, and a subtler one, that the name of the works page has been altered in some way, without all the relevant links being checked and altered accordingly.<br />
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What I have been doing when I come upon a page with a "missing items" list is to make the necessary manual additions, and adjustments to works page links that have been changed. <br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 18:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== I heard a voice from heaven - Tomkins ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that. I think what must have happened is that I've inadvertently deleted the Tomkins files while thinking they were the Goss or Morley settings, since I hadn't included the composer name in the file name. I've taken the opportunity to do a bit of tidying - the version I had originally done now looks rather cramped - but it should all be there now.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ich hebe meine Augen SWV 31 ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting the duplicated title. I'm not sure where it came from and deleting it caused some difficulty. However, now sorted, so I've removed the score error message. <br />
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On musica ficta, yes, you have interpreted it correctly. The only possible confusion might be that, in the source, the figured bass is also written above the stave and that has accidentals in it too. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 20:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I suppose so! Have you seen those Italian prints where the 'accidental' is on the staff but, when one peers closely enough, centered on the line or space a third above the bass note? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, in case you are not 'watching' my talk page, I've replied to your latest query about ''Ad te levavi animam meam'' there, to keep the thread together. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Da pacem, Domine]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I noticed that you moved this text page to the comma-less form. There are around 4-5 work titles that use the version with comma; should we standardize them by removing the comma? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, <br />
:I don't think so, unless a NoTi(tle) template for text pages is being contemplated. Work titles can follow the composer's (or even editor's) usage, while uniform text page title style (borrowed from Solsmes indexing style) is just to take some guesswork out of adding LinkText|unpunctuated title. For that reason I'd [[Category_talk:Voicing#Renaming Categories|still like to do something]] about the red {{CC|Solo soprano}} and the ridiculously cumbersome to remember [[Category talk:Hymn meters#Simpler meter names|hymn meter names.]] [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 21:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
::OK! I sometimes add commas to titles if I think it'll clarify their meaning, but I agree that for Latin this is not so common or even necessary. Regarding hymn meter names, this is a somewhat cryptic subject to me, sorry for not being able to contribute to the discussion. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Seid Barmherzig (Heinrich Schütz) ==<br />
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Unfortunately not, Richard. That was my initial thought, but bars 198-210 are different, although the notes are often the same. So I've rolled back your edit.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 21:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== O sacramentum pietatis ==<br />
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Hi Richard! After creating a text page for ''[[O sacramentum pietatis]]'', I noticed that [[O sacramentum pietatis H 260 (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)|the text used by Charpentier]] is completely different. Maybe you (or James?) could help identify the source of this second text? And how can we properly differentiate both titles, in your opinion? Thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 23:25, 29 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tota pulchra es (Gregorian chant) ==<br />
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Hi, Richard. You removed the 'Broken link' tag of [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) this edition/page]. It's a link to the Abel DiMarco's site, where we find two links: one for Palestrina and the other for Lassus. Where do we have to go to find the score? Please help the users. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Claude; sorry, I don't quite understand: I can click the link to Abel's site, click on T, get:<br />
*Tantum ergo. Partitura<br />
*Te lucis ante terminum. Partitura<br />
*Tollite portas. Partitura<br />
*Tota pulchra es. Partitura<br />
*Tu es qui venturus es?. Partitura<br />
*Turba multa. Partitura<br />
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:then (on the third try) clicking on Tota pulcra I get the advertised file with the Gregorian chant. Is there perhaps a different page that has ambiguous links? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:36, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, Richard. It's weird, when I click on T, get:<br />
::• Tota Pulchra es. Lassus (2 v. i.) Partitura <br />
::• Tota pulchra es. Palestrina (Coro 5 v.m.) Partitura <br />
::the page is that one: http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/t/<br />
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::BTW, I don't see how I could merge pages according to your suggestion [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Agnus_Dei_a_3_(Francesco_Lorenzo_Luciani) here] because I don't find the same underlay text, nor the same music. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::Weird indeed! There seem to be separate indexes for chant and polyphony. From your page I was finally able to click my way to http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/cantoral-gregoriano/#T The trick is to use the lower of the two indexes. Shall I revise the link on http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) ? <br />
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:::I don't remember what I was thinking about on the Luciani page, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hello guys! I, just like Richard, was only looking at the lower index that pointed to the correct work on that same page. Only now I noticed the other indexes above that lead to another page with polyphonic works. I've tweaked the {{CT|Website}} template so that now it adds the index automatically, based on work title (#T in this case). How do you like it? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 03:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That's great, thanks. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Thank you ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your (belated) welcome. And thanks for your kind words about my edition. [[User:D-fished|D-fished]] ([[User talk:D-fished|talk]]) 20:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Vater Abraham ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that I don't know the range of a concert flute! I've altered the files so that the second flute is an alto flute, duly transposing the notes and changing the description accordingly.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:37, 10 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== nonbot seeking dothint ==<br />
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hey richard! giovanni.cervo or senza punto at the thermodynamix postmastery? <br><br />
k regards <br><br />
Tulipo Petressian 19:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I don't own a dictionary with the word "dothint", sorry! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 07:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: sorry too, but the dothint wasn't even in the question. which was: please give me a clue about whether or not there would be a dot between name and surname in your mail address! Tulipo Petressian 08:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::Ah, I'm a little slow today; the spell-checker even suggested dot hint. Only one dot, between [appropriate substitution]mail and com.[[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 11:00, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::: phew, confusing botphobian riddling! allow me some slow thinking as well: I had no doubts about the dot between mail and com, so you are telling me there is no other dot, only a nondot between john and doe?! Tulipo Petressian 18:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:LOL, I'm loving this! "Talk ''nerdy'' to me." :)<br />
:That's it, Tulipo, no dots between john & doe. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 19:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: bravo, don c! (or would you prefer nondon?) Tulipo Petressian 19:39, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== work titles in parenthesis ==<br />
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hi richard! just noticed that putting work titles in parenthesis, as you proposed in ''"Pour forth no more" from Jephtha HWV 70'' (to add the jeptha source info) has the downside of putting them out of their expected alphabetical order, thus making them impossible to find if looking by initial character. Tulipo Petressian 22:40, 26 January 2016 (UTC)</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Laud_her,_al_ye_virgin_train_(George_Frideric_Handel)&diff=593353Laud her, al ye virgin train (George Frideric Handel)2016-01-26T22:19:49Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* General Information */</p>
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'''Title:''' ''"Laud her, all ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70''<br><br />
{{Composer|George Frideric Handel}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Thomas Morell}}<br />
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{{Genre|Sacred|Oratorios}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
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(Zebul:)<br />
Laud her, all ye virgin train<br />
In glad songs of choicest strain.<br />
Ye blest angels all around,<br />
Laud her in melodious sound.<br />
Virtues that to you belong,<br />
Love and truth demand the song.}}<br />
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'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
* '''''Jephtha, HWV 70'''''<br />
**''No.3'' {{NoCo|Pour forth no more}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**''No.63'' {{NoCo|"Laud her, al ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/ausgaben/uni_ausgabe.html?projekt=1193214396&recherche=ja&ordnung=sig Münchener DigitalisierungsZentrum / Bayerische Staatsbibliothek: Gesamtwerk, Deutschen Händelgesellschaft. Hrsg. von Friedrich Chrysander]<br />
*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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[[Category:German composers]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=George_Frideric_Handel&diff=593351George Frideric Handel2016-01-26T22:15:28Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Oratorios */</p>
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'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 23 February 1685 Halle<br />
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'''Died:''' 14 April 1759, London<br />
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'''Biography:'''<br><br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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===Anthems===<br />
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*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
* '''''Jephtha, HWV 70'''''<br />
**''No.3'' {{NoCo|Pour forth no more}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**''No.63'' {{NoCo|"Laud her, al ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/ausgaben/uni_ausgabe.html?projekt=1193214396&recherche=ja&ordnung=sig Münchener DigitalisierungsZentrum / Bayerische Staatsbibliothek: Gesamtwerk, Deutschen Händelgesellschaft. Hrsg. von Friedrich Chrysander]<br />
*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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[[Category:German composers]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=George_Frideric_Handel&diff=593350George Frideric Handel2016-01-26T22:13:56Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* List of choral works */</p>
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'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 23 February 1685 Halle<br />
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'''Died:''' 14 April 1759, London<br />
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'''Biography:'''<br><br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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===Anthems===<br />
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*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
{{Bottom}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
* '''''Jephtha, HWV 70'''''<br />
**''No.3'' {{NoCo|Pour forth no more}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|"Laud her, al ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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[[Category:German composers]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Laud_her,_al_ye_virgin_train_(George_Frideric_Handel)&diff=593349Laud her, al ye virgin train (George Frideric Handel)2016-01-26T21:52:15Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Music files */</p>
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*{{PostedDate|2016-01-26}} {{CPDLno|38328}} [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.mp3}} {{mp3}}]<br />
{{Editor|Tulipo Petressian|2016-01-26}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|342}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' Source: Novello (London), n.d.(ca.1880), reprint by Edwin F. Kalmus(N.Y), n.d.(after 1933) Public Domain (as found on IMSLP)<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''"Laud her, al ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70''<br><br />
{{Composer|George Frideric Handel}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Thomas Morell}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Oratorios}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
{{Instruments|Unknown}}<br />
'''Published:''' <br />
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'''Description:''' <br />
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'''External websites:''' <br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
(Zebul:)<br />
Laud her, all ye virgin train<br />
In glad songs of choicest strain.<br />
Ye blest angels all around,<br />
Laud her in melodious sound.<br />
Virtues that to you belong,<br />
Love and truth demand the song.}}<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Laud_her,_al_ye_virgin_train_(George_Frideric_Handel)&diff=593348Laud her, al ye virgin train (George Frideric Handel)2016-01-26T21:51:09Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Original text and translations */</p>
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<div>==Music files==<br />
{{Legend}}<br />
*{{PostedDate|2016-01-26}} {{CPDLno|38328}} [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.mp3}} {{mp3}}]<br />
{{Editor|Tulipo Petressian|2016-01-26}}{{ScoreInfo|A4|2|342}}{{Copy|CPDL}}<br />
:'''Edition notes:''' <br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''"Laud her, al ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70''<br><br />
{{Composer|George Frideric Handel}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Thomas Morell}}<br />
<br />
{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Oratorios}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
{{Instruments|Unknown}}<br />
'''Published:''' <br />
<br />
'''Description:''' <br />
<br />
'''External websites:''' <br />
<br />
==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
(Zebul:)<br />
Laud her, all ye virgin train<br />
In glad songs of choicest strain.<br />
Ye blest angels all around,<br />
Laud her in melodious sound.<br />
Virtues that to you belong,<br />
Love and truth demand the song.}}<br />
[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=George_Frideric_Handel&diff=593347George Frideric Handel2016-01-26T21:48:45Z<p>Tulipo petressian: New work entry: "Laud her, al ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70</p>
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<div>{{redirect|Handel|Jacob Handl}}<br />
[[Image:Handel.jpg|thumb]]<br />
'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 23 February 1685 Halle<br />
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'''Died:''' 14 April 1759, London<br />
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'''Biography:'''<br><br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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*{{NoCo|"Laud her, al ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70}}<br />
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===Anthems===<br />
{{Top}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
{{Middle}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
{{Bottom}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
* '''''Jephtha, HWV 70'''''<br />
**''No.3'' {{NoCo|Pour forth no more}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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[[Category:German composers]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Laud_her,_al_ye_virgin_train_(George_Frideric_Handel)&diff=593346Laud her, al ye virgin train (George Frideric Handel)2016-01-26T21:48:42Z<p>Tulipo petressian: New work page created</p>
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*{{PostedDate|2016-01-26}} {{CPDLno|38328}} [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_laud_her.mp3}} {{mp3}}]<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''"Laud her, al ye virgin train" from Jephtha, HWV 70''<br><br />
{{Composer|George Frideric Handel}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Thomas Morell}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Oratorios}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
{{Instruments|Unknown}}<br />
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<div></div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Richard_Mix&diff=593340User talk:Richard Mix2016-01-26T19:39:18Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* nonbot seeking dothint */</p>
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<div>==Problems submitting a score==<br />
Hi, I'm struggling to learn the ropes here. After a few abortive attempts at "Add scores to CPDL" I found one file under my contributions page: [[Image:Gaudeamus Battistini.pdf]] and have made an article page for it. <small>—The preceding [[ChoralWiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Richard Mix|Sparafucil]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richard Mix|contribs]]) on 18:16, 15 January 2008.</small><br />
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:Hi there. Welcome to CPDL and thank you for your edition! I'm sorry to hear that you're having difficulties. I've just created the [[Giacomo Battistini|composer page]] and added the works entry to it. Please supply the following information and I will format the score page correctly:<br />
:*Your real name<br />
:*The copyright that you are assigning to your edition (the preference is the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]] but you may apply any license to your edition; it would be a good idea to add this information to the bottom of the first page of the PDF too)<br />
:*A MIDI file would be very useful if you are able to create one (not required but useful)<br />
:When you come to your next score submission, please try to follow the score submission guide which I think is very clear. If you're having problems, please leave a message on [[User talk:Bobnotts|my talk page]], noting the part that you're having difficulties with and I will endevour to help. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:58, 15 January 2008 (PST)<br />
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== Beatus vir ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I had to revert your edits made to [[Beatus vir, RV 597 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 597]], because you were inadvertently removing the original info. You probably wanted to edit [[Beatus vir, RV 598 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 598]], right? What probably happened was that you clicked on page RV 598 and was "redirected" to RV 597 without noticing it. When we move a page to another name, the original name automatically receives a "redirect" code to the new page. If that's what happened, tell me and I will copy to RV 598 the edits you made, so that you don't lose what you had already done. Regards -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 21:40, 16 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:Yes, that was it! I thought there was something wrong; thanks for putting it right. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 18:38, 17 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::Hi Richard, here I am again. I'm not sure I understood what you did. The PDFs you uploaded to RV 598 specify on their first pages that they are from RV 597! Is that correct? From what I saw, ''Beatus vir'' RV 597 is in C major, and RV 598 is in B flat major. I think it would be a good idea also to check with the admins if CPDL allows pages hosting only the orchestra parts, without their corresponding vocal parts. -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:52, 19 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::Yes, the two pages now need to be swapped. How did you find the uploaded files? And where should I try contacting the admins (one is Rafael, I assume? I would think it only a matter of time before someone adds choral parts, but... ) tia, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 07:28, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::::Hi Richard, the two pages contents are now swapped, remember your scores are now in RV 597! I found your uploaded files looking at the upload log available at [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] in the left menu. Try asking your questions to admins here: [[ChoralWiki:Sheet music requests and questions]]. Regards! -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:39, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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== Redirects ==<br />
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Hi Richard!<br />
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I'd like to know if there is a reason why you created a redirect to [[When Israel came out of Egypt (William Byrd)|this work]]. If you type these exact words in the search box, the correct page will be the first (and only) to appear, so this redirect seems unnecessary. The same applies to the various Hanacpachap redirects you created. The variant spellings are all inside the works page, so someone searching for any of them should be able to find that work without the need of the redirects. <br />
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Redirects are usefull only in some specific situations, as when we use template <nowiki>{{ChoralWiki}}</nowiki> on Wikipedia to redirect to a page on CPDL and the Wikipedia article title is different from the title at CPDL. Regards —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 16:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Carlos,<br />
:I was only trying to turn a red link at [[Psalm 114]] blue, which is also easily accomplished by adding a first name. Is there a downside to having redirects? The only way I could find [[Hanacpachap]] before was to go to [[Anonymous#H|anonymous and look under H]], which took quite a few extra seconds;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard,<br />
::In fact redirects do increase a little bit the database's workload, since they need to be indexed too; we also have more work when we need to move the target page to a different title; but they are nonetheless useful in many situations. It's strange you couldn't find ''Hanacpachap'': if you try a search with this name the works page shows up. This is what we've been doing when possible: to add composer aliases and composition variant titles in the page text so they can be found easily via the Search tool. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, the only difference between "go" and "search" is the option to create a new page. I still have a WP habit of creating red links in preview mode to see what's there, but will try not to carry it over to CPDL (if you click on the one above you wont get any seach results at all). Shouldn't I have come across mention of this prefered strategy before somewhere? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Text sources ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for adding text sources to score pages. It really helps to make ChoralWiki a truly interlinked website. I had one doubt, though, [[Confitebor tibi Domine (Giovanni Gabrieli)]]. It looks more like parts of [[Psalm 9]] vv.2-3 & 16 to me (though I can't identify the entire text). Do you agree? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Dear Bob, <br>Thanks for the catch! The Vulgate lumps Ps's 9 & 10, so: 9:2-3, (I think you're right about 16), 12, 10:37a. Btw, re JSB I think you meant that it is preferable to have external links from a cpdl page as [[Cantata BWV 131 - Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir (Johann Sebastian Bach)|here]] (I'm looking into the title of bwv 131, often given as Aus der Tiefen). With all the material at bachcantatas.com it might be nice to have a BachCantata template. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about Sibelius 4 exporting to previous versions formats ==<br />
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Hi Richard I saw your question in John Patterson's talk page...Yes Sibelius 4(5 and now 6) gives you the possibility to save files so they can be opened with previous versions of Sibelius...that option is under the menu File and then Export (not "save as")...I hope it was helpful...[[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 02:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, it's only in Sib3 that it's under "save as SIb2 file". Thanks, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bach Cantatas ==<br />
:''(The other half of the conversation is [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Saniakob&oldid=214153 here])''<br />
Hi Richard, you are right...the reasons why I did that is because of organizational purposes...The page is still "under construction"...there are many things to fix...So for the moment I am ordering editions...and creating sections (like Cantatas, Chorales so on) to put things in order...once all editions are ordered I will work on each section....So far, the cantatas which have a page including all pieces are those which are complete...Cantatas which have only some pieces in CPDL are given as titles with the corresponding editions listed below...I pretend to change that in the future, but for now that is the criterion...Thanks for the suggestion and comment!![[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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My apologies Richard, now I see, your edition is of Movement 1 and I listed it in Movement 7 page...my mistake... There is a problem on making a page for the whole cantata when there are available only 2 Movements.If you see CPDL requires that the number of editions available must be mentioned...the cantatas which are complete and have editions of independent movements mention this "full score and independent movements" (or similar text). It is impossible to mention which movements are included in each page; it is note possible to write "some movements available" or to mention each movement next to the Cantata title. For clarity, the movements available are listed under the Cantata tile...This criterion is used in all CPDL pages, or at least is what I have been told by Admins...CPDL manager also added some templates to be used for the Cantatas section and did not object how things were, so I assume things are correctly organized... Regarding, languages and other mistakes on the edition pages... I will correct that in a near future, I am checking page by page...and taking notes on what needs to be fixed....For the moment, all of my time goes on finding the corresponding BWV catalog number for each entry on the page and checking if they are missatributions, translations or other stuff, as well as sending each edition to its corresponding section within the page...Regarding your suggestion of opening another Bach project in CPDL...I can't answer that...I think an Admin will give you a proper reply...Thanks again - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The discussion you mention is about merging pieces which are the same piece but with different titles translated to other languages. I will ask you please to stop changing things at the page. If you were concerned with Bach page you could have adopted it before. I took it and CPDL admins know about it. I appreciate your concern but undoing my work doesn't help. Since CPDL was created Bach page is a mess...and things are much ordered now. Please respect my decisions about the page management, there is 1 volunteer per page and with Bach page it happens to be me...If you have a complain direct it to the admins...I wouldn't like to report you for interfering because I know you try to help, but this is not the right way. Please be patient, things can't be fixed in 2 days, actually, I am volunteering since one month ago and there is a lot to do and the time I could use to improve the page I am spending undoing your changes because you don't respect my position as volunteer with the page. - Thanks [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 20:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Never mind. I step out. I am no longer volunteering with this page. Feel free to take the position, it is available.<br />
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Here is my reply to your comment in [[User_talk:CHGiffen#Bach_Cantatas|Mr. Giffen's talk page]]....<p>"I stepped out. I am no longer volunteering. Offer the position of volunteering with Bach Page to Mr. Mix who thinks he can do a much better job than me...I wish he would have made something when no one was maintaining the page for years and not just now when someone else started doing the job. I worked for 10 years as manager and copyist of a music repository at a university and I thought I knew some stuff of the trade...but I guess I was wrong. Besides, you modified things in the page (adding the templates for the cantatas) and you didn't told me anything about my way of organizing things...just now when I have this discussion you tell me about CPDL rules and make me look like a fool when I try to defend my point of view with Mr. Mix. Finally, If I did not read wrong, the Adopt a composer program states clearly that there is 1 volunteer per page...so "collaborative work" as Mr. Mix call it doesn't apply for some things...like changing things at will... I understand collaborative work is teaching people how to make a submission to CPDL correctly (which I did) because the information given by the site is confusing....or translating pages to other languages to make CPDL more accessible to everyone (which I also did)... I know perfectly what collaborative work is. I am a professional with enough experience in my field and I won't work under this conditions. Perhaps I misunderstood what CPDL was about...if that's the case then I am to blame. Thank you."</p><br />
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Things are exactly as they were before I took Bach page...so you can start the work in the way you love most...Best Regards - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 17:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Failed contributions==<br />
Hi Richard. You tried to contribute editions of two Mendelssohn pieces to CPDL on 21st July but I can't locate any files for these editions. Could you point me in the right direction, please? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sure- on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090724002639&target=Richard+Mix my contributions page] I still see: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).sib and http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).pdf on the page [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]], as well as two more files up at [[Im Wald. Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]]. Thanks, and hope I havnt unwittingly made anything harder. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry - my mistake. I found the page [[Im Walde, Op. 41, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] linked from the [[Mendelssohn]] page and when I didn't see your edition listed, I got confused! Nothing wrong with [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] but [[Im Wald Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] was missing a catalogue number and wasn't linked to from the main [[Mendelssohn]] page. I've fixed both of those things now. Thanks --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Sacred feasts ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for improving the texts of those categories, I never imagined this subject could be so complex :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 18:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Salve Regina]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your work on this page. You'll see that I moved the external link you added to under the "external links" section. I feel that we need to draw the line somewhere, otherwise people would add any vaugely relevant links to the settings list and clutter it up. I hope that's ok with you. <br />
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Also, you asked: "should all voicings redirect as SATB does?" in an edit summary for the page. Firstly, please don't use edit summaries to ask question - they should be used to give a brief summary of the edit and nothing else. The best place to ask questions is on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums]. To answer your question, though, there's no strict rule for redirects but generally I'd say that [[SATB]] is only a redirect because it's a voicing that's used so frequently. To add links to categories quickly (without categorising the page in the category), use the "CiteCat" template, like this: <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|SSATB}}</nowiki></tt>. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 15:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Text page links ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for all your help lately! Just thought I'd mention one thing: when you add a link to a text page from a score page, such as on [[Ave Maria, Op. 23, No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] and [[Laudate Dominum omnes gentes, III (Claudio Monteverdi)]], please try to remember to also update the text page to link back to the score page. That way, someone looking for a particular text can find all the settings of it on CW (in theory!) I've just updated the text pages for those score pages. I know it's easy to forget sometimes. Thanks again. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 12:16, 26 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Declare his honour - Henry Purcell ==<br />
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I hope I'm adding comments to the correct page, since it's not enirely obvious how one contacts people in Choral Wiki<br />
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With regard to my reformatting of the Fowler version of this, bar 75 should have read bar 74 (and the last note of bar 73), where the bass part seems to have been transposed down by a 6th. (This is fairly obvious when you play it back. It also corresponds with bar 247 of the Callon version of O sing unto the Lord). The same transposition seems to have occurred in the bass accompaniment in bar 76.<br />
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I have corrected these (and taken the liberty of removing your error message at the same time!) I've also uploaded new versions of the .pdf, .mid and .cap files.<br />
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I've found some oddities when uploading new versions of files. Although I uploaded a revised version of the .pdf file on 7th February, the file that was there when I opened it today appeared to be the original version. I have uploaded a new version and that seems now to be the version in Choral Wiki. However, the .cap file I uploaded at the same time seems not to have been uploaded, since it is still the old file which opens.<br />
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On the question of combining this with O sing unto the Lord, that is obviously a sensible move. However, from the point of view of practical use for singers, I don't think most choirs would make much use of the full version, so I would suggest there should still be a link on the Purcell main page for "Declare his honour", which redirects to "O sing unto the Lord"<br />
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:Welcome! A lot of useful discussion does happen on user talk pages; there are also the CPDL fora, which confusingly require a separate login even if you use the same name and password. If it's alright with you though, I'll copy the Purcell-specific discussion to [[Talk:O sing unto the Lord (Henry Purcell)]].<br />
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:Thanks for the corrections and clarifications! I'm not sure about the oddities yet, but will have another look, and add the error report to Fowler. <br />
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:I agree about the redirect in case anyone searches under "D". This is handled by turning subpage Declare His Honor (Henry Purcell) into a redirect. It isnt necessary to have the file in two places, as with the redundant Agnus Dei (Marc-Antoine Charpentier): here I think even a redirect to [[Messe de Minuit pour Noël (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)]] is unneeded. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gaudeamus omnes (Giacomo Battistini)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. [[User:Sparafucil]] once uploaded an edition of the work above, but the name in the score is yours! Was Sparafucil an old account you were using before registering as Richard Mix? Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I'd forgotten. Can you delete the account? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Better yet, I've merged the old account into the new one, to unify your contributions. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Motets ==<br />
Hi Richard, I've noticed you 'depopulated' the liturgical music cat in favour of 'motet' on one of my contributions. As you may have noticed, there is a discussion on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4853 forums] about this issue, as yet without decisive outcome. In the case of Mondondone's "Deus in adiutorium", I disagree with your categorisation - it is an office versicle with a clear an unequivocal functional role, pretty much unimaginable in any other context. As for the stylistic issues, those remain to be debated, as you can see on the forums. Would you consider contributing to the discussion? [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 13:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you for the pointer! I'll try to sort it out what I think... I suppose though we're not in disagreement that category:Office versicles would ultimately be more easily searchable than "liturgical music"? In the meantime, we could make a [[Deus in ajutorium]] textpage (maybe just a redirect to a sub-section of [[Psalm 70]]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Psalms ==<br />
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Richard, not sure if I'm doing this the right way, since it doesn't seem immediately intuitive how to reply to comments from someone.<br />
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I suppose the psalm chants I've been adding are an anthology, in the sense that they are the ones we generally use in the choir that I belong to. The only reason that I've set them is Capella is that I got tired of illegible photocopies of words and music. Capella isn't brilliant at handling words if they are not set as lyrics under the notes, so I add the relevant text from a Word file and print the same page twice, once with the chant and once with the text. However, as I only do this when a new psalm comes to be sung, the set is not complete. <br />
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I'm not clear how (or where) I should put them if they were to be presented as an anthology. Would they still appear on the composer pages, but just with a different title?<br />
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On the small "c" for chant issue, I've been puzzled by why the link still appeared in red when I added a score, so that explains it. I haven't typed it in with an upper case C; that's provided by the dropdown list from "Add scores to CPDL". I'll correct by hand for the moment, but it might be useful if someone could alter the dropdown list eventually, to eliminate the problem automatically.<br />
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:Hi James, seems right enough to me. There is a confusing choice of venues around cpdl, and a lot gets done on usertalk pages like this. I raised the dropdown bug at the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4935 operation & implementation] forum (these require a second login and password) and it may be fixed already. I also proposed hashing out psalm naming conventions on the [[Category talk:Anglican chants|category talk page]]; maybe we'll be joined by others. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Praeter rerum seriem ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I have to take exception with your designation of the [[Praeter rerum seriem (Anonymous)]] as being a Gregorian chant source rather than simply Anonymous. If you'll examint the setting, you'll see that it is a triple rhythm tune that is wholly inconsistent with being Gregorian chant, in spite of the text being a Marian sequence. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Charles! Maybe we differ on a definition of "Gregorian" rather than the particulars of the piece. Rhythmisized chant is squarely in that tradition, if I may so speak, and one may consider the long-short ''[[Of the Father's love begotten (Anonymous)|Divinum mysterium)]]'' to be the same piece as the unmeasured notation. <br />
:But I may just be confused about the 'original' ''Praeter rerum''. On a casual inspection, it looks like a Gregorian chant has been used as a tenor by Josquin, and that it differs in a few pitch details (second note, strain 2, and a few extra notes) from a chant book version, which can be adjusted to Josquin's rhythm. Does a different Gregorian melody exist? And did you have a mensural source for what the page calls "the Latin hymn"? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franz Schubert - Fünf Duette ==<br />
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Good morning Richard. Thank you for the cleaning of the Fünf Duette page. The problem i had with the newline character seems solved now. I can continue editing. [[User:BenZene|BenZene]] 08:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vidi aquam confusion ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I basically reverted your edits to [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]], since I think you didn't check the PDFs for the two recently posted scores. Each of these postings consists of THREE settings of Vidi aquam (so perhaps calling them I and II is a bit confusing). At any rate, (I) contains the three settings (all 3-part) from tr93 (pages 5v-6r, 6v-7r, 7v-8r), and (II) contains three settings (only the middle one is 4-part) from tr88 (pp 223v-224r) and tr89 (pp 228v-229r and 229v-230r). Only the first tr89 (pp 228v-229r) is 4-part.<br />
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I checked the pdf for [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]] but not looking at [[Vidi aquam I (Anonymous)]] misconstrued it as a separate work page for what I guess is Vidi aquam 5 [or maybe IIb?] (Anonymous). Thanks for the catch, and I hope you add the foliation info! Do you agree that there's something a bit wrong with the page names and that perhaps a merge if not a split is in order? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Given the way in which the 6 settings of Vidi aquam have been published here in two groups of three each, I'm tempted to suggest that they be merged onto one page, perhaps titled something like<br />
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Makes perfect sense to me. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 08:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Also for me. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== La cieca (Giovanni Ghizzolo) ==<br />
Richard, I'm not quite sure the canges you applied to the voicing cat on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/La_cieca_%28Giovanni_Ghizzolo%29 this] page are for the better. Any user interested in this sort of repertoire is unlikely to search for "Amarilli" as a solo voice type, is he? Besides, to the best of my knowledge, this change would make it one of the few (if any) pages where voicing information is mixed with/replaced by content. I'm not sure that labelling, say, Bach's Matthew Passion as containing "Christ" instead of "bass solo" would be the way to move forward. Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 15:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, The names of course are "piped" and link to Category:Solo Soprano and Category:Solo Tenor. I found the former ST choir designation more confusing myself; now I hope it is clear that the chorus is SSB and the other movements are dialogues for male & female soloists, but maybe you devise something better. Btw, thanks for the [[Mnogaya lyeta (Traditional)]] lyrics! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Voicing for [[I will worship towards thy holy temple (Arthur Sullivan)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I rolled back your voicing change. I'm not sure about the separate choir specification, but, if you look at mm 104-126, you'll see that at least 7 different voices are required (albeit at most 6 sing at any one time). Because of the way the score is laid out, I'm inclined to leave the two-choir voicing (rather than 7vv SSATTBB). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see what you mean. The layout implies choir two SA & TB each in unison. I dont suppose we can have 6|SATB.SATB, which would be my prefered version ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 03:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Say, Watchman, What of the Night? (Arthur Sullivan)|Say, watchman, what of the night?]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your comments, Richard. I think it almost certain that Sullivan, as an accomplished organist, would have specified organ accompaniment for a sacred work, so I must have had my mind not properly in gear to specify something else when entering the details! I've corrected the missing note in the accompaniment of bar 19 and also spotted a couple of misdirected tails, which didn't get automatically changed when I transposed it up a tone in Capella. I've reloaded updated versions of the files.<br />
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The small notes in the accompaniment are not intended to indicate rehearsal only. It's just that, by making the accompaniment small, I can get three systems on an A4 page in Capella in a readable form. (You can probably guess from this that I am a singer, rather than a keyboard player!) If the original indicates "for rehearsal only", I generally make this explicit.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah well, organists are expected to do the superhuman anyway: in this case to transpose a half step while the choir has the convenience of reading in one flat. This must have been before transposer knobs. I must say your version in G raises the bar for the minor mode passages! ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The way is long and dreary ==<br />
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(A title that makes you frantic to sing the piece!) When I was playing this back before submitting it this morning, parts of it sounded vaguely familiar. In fact, the Douglas Walczak Agnus Dei is an extract from this longer anthem, removing the Adelaide Procter bits. So I think they should somehow be linked, but have no idea how to do it myself. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 11:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I was going to wade in here and suggest putting a "See also:" (or "Also see:") item at the end of the "Music files" section for each work, with links between the two works pages (and even do it myself as an example as to illustrate how to do this in the future) &ndash; until I realized that we don't have the Walczak ''Agnus Dei'' at {{CW}}! So, instead, I would suggest simply adding a note in the "Description:" section in the Sullivan about the Walczak piece. There are several examples of the "See also:" usage &ndash; one at [[Advent Anthem (The Advent moon shines cold and clear) (Douglas Brooks-Davies)|''Advent Anthem'']] by [[Douglas Brooks-Davies]] interlinking with my own [[This Advent moon (Charles H. Giffen)|''This Advent moon'']] (which is why I know of the technique). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 12:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: Great idea Chuck, but wouldnt it logically go under '''General information;'''? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hassler Ave maris stella ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I really don't understand your instance on duplicating information in the Edition notes for both editions that is descriptive of the work and not of the editions. I already moved the fact that the chant (and cantus firmus) is mixolydian to the Description section. Moreover, there is no musical difference between the editions: indeed, the polyphony is the same for all three even verses. It just so happens that the Kelecom edition reproduces the music three times, once for each odd verse chant and once for each verse polyphony, while the earlier edition uses the more economical route of providing the chant and polyphony once, with the verses underlaid threefold. As for the question whether the music is transposed (or not) and because both editions share the same fate on this issue, my preference in such situation at CPDL is to leave the matter of announcing "F miixolydian" in the two editions out, until such time as we have sure knowledge of any transposition from the original work (Hassler was not above transposed modes in other works). Elsewhere, when there are more than one edition transposed to the same key (along with the original or other transpositions), we usually group editions with the same transposition under a single heading, such as with [[If ye love me (Thomas Tallis)]]. With this in mind, I hope you will reconsider what amounts to a restoration of your previous edits as an addition after my own edit (which was an attempt to avoid redundancy). I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Chuck! I'm not sure ''If ye love me'' is typical in this regard, though it is a clever solution. If there is no 'redundancy', it's not even clear the editions are at the same pitch, and we have to assume the general info has the correct original key. Thanks for prodding me, though: I'm beginning a long download of DdT to see what can be found there... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: Hi again Richard. Both editions are indeed "at the same pitch", 2 flats in the k.s., cantus firmus beginning on F, note values apparently halved from the original (pretty common). I do note that the Kelecom edition leaves off the 7th verse (chant, missed that previously). I'd be interested to learn what the DdT download turns up. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::...and the piece is in neither ''Cantiones Sacrae'' nor ''Sacri Concentus''. A search in Grove only gets hits for soAVE and bellAVEre, so I guess we're dealing with a contrafactum. Assuming something else turns up, do we replace the edition notes "in F mixolydian" with "original key" both times? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Palestrina Mags ==<br />
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Dear Richard,<br />
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Many thanks for your clarifications and alterations concerning the tricky question of Palestrina Magnificat settings - what you've done now is an immensurably better state of affairs than was in place before - many thanks indeed! Hopefully other people will latch on to the new system and either style their editions with the new clarification system or leave the editions in question open to clarification by contributors such as yourself. Unless I'm being thick, is it the case that there are multiple sections/chapters within the Magnificat octo tonum liber primus (Rome, 1591) publication (although bearing in mind the other Magnificats which were unpublished in 1591 and remain in manuscript form (although transcribed by haberl))? There was only this one publication, according to Grove, and I am unaware of any others. How is the 'book' system that you use set up? I am aware of the division of Haberl's volume into sections, but I can't remember how. Are you able to shed any light on this?<br />
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Re: Lassus Mags, if you're happy to send me facsimiles of Haberl, then I'll happily transcribe them! :-)<br />
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Also, on your own user page, you might want to update the number of scores you've contributed from 1 to the relevant number larger than 1. I wish this acted as a little counter and updated itself!<br />
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Best wishes,<br><br />
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:I was just going by [http://imslp.org/wiki/XXXV_Magnificat_(Palestrina,_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da)], of which the first part is the 1591 "liber primus" (divided into odd and even), but I see that [http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da_Palestrina] doesnt list the subsequent 'liber's! I'll try downloading the forward to see if they had title pages... <br />
:... Ouf, my poor Latin, but Haberl's own Book Two title page clears things up a little: ''Magnificat octotonum quaternis vocibus. (liber secundus.) auctore Petraloysio Praestino nunc primum ex codice cappelae juliae ad S. Petrum Romae in partitionem redigit et edidit Fr. Xav. Haberl.'' A first edition! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Avoiding overcounting your editions ==<br />
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Hi Richard. The "Whatlinkshere" template does indeed overcount editions, because it provides a list of pages with links of any kind (not just links from Sheet music pages generated by the Editor template). That is why I created the "<EditorName> editions" categories. Replacing <tt><nowiki>{{Whatlinkshere}}</nowiki></tt> oh your User page with <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}</nowiki></tt> will solve the problem. Be aware that this will undercount your editions if you have more than one edition listed on a given works page. But at least it provides a shorter list to check (if you suspect you have duplications, as I do). Best wishe. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 22:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm still a little confused- There must be something missing from the template syntax {{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}, since [[:Category:Richard Mix editions]] is a blue link... Got it now, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: My bad... there should be a "|" after CiteCat, not a ":" ... sorry! I corrected the citation in my previous post above. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Missa quinque vocum (Mogens Pedersøn)]] ==<br />
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I think you were right in your edit summary, Richard, so I have returned the layout to a single edition incorporating all the assigned catalogue numbers in the edition notes as before. I came to this conclusion mainly because it is the same score link for all the movements. Feel free to revert. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 06:24, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OT post-Pentecost blunder ==<br />
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Hi Richard. You are entirely right - after I swapped Pentecost IX and X, I realized that you were problably right in putting X before IX for precisely the reason you gave in your edit summary. I hope you like the appearance of the wikitable format better, though. I'll make another pass through the Sundays after Pentecost to do a few cleanup and tidying chores, at least when I get a chance! Many thanks for taking on the organization of these liturgical categories. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the tidying, and it's just as well what I've typed in a hurry so far gets double-checked! <br />
:I've always copied code for tables from any old place I stumble across an example, but is there an official help page somewhere? I just noticed that [[Piae Cantiones]] has a sortable list, which might be handy for the [[Ordinary Time]] table. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Verse anthem? ==<br />
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Hi Richard. In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hosanna_to_the_Son_of_David_%28Orlando_Gibbons%29&diff=prev&oldid=259680 this edit], you labelled [[Hosanna to the Son of David (Orlando Gibbons)]] as a verse anthem. I thought I would double check we're agreed on this, as according to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_anthem Wikipedia article] and my limited knowledge on the subject, this surely is not a verse anthem but a full anthem. Was your edit a mistake? I have changed it back, at least for the time being. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You're absolutely right! I think I might have had [[Behold, I bring you glad tidings (Orlando Gibbons)]] on my mind at the time... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jesu, word of God incarnate in The Anthem Book ==<br />
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Regarding your question as to whether this was a version of Gounod's Ave Maria, my mind wasn't properly in gear, because I tend to think of that as Bach-Gounod. The answer is that it definitely isn't that, though I don't know what the original words might have been. I'll get round to submitting it shortly and check whether it matches any of the other Gounod stuff already uploaded.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 23:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:No, [[Talk:The Anthem Book|I meant]] the [[Ave verum corpus|other ''Ave'']] of which JwoGi is the common translation. Btw, I finally brought the Methodists around to Latin by showing them how much better the English fit [[Ave Verum, Op. 2, No. 1 (Edward Elgar)|Elgar's setting]] than the Latin, and then later persuading them that, visa-versa, they didnt really want to sing "Jesu, Worduv, God incarnate" in the Mozart. Iirc, Elgar composed to a different Latin hymn originally, publishing it as Avc later. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yes, clearly my mind wasn't properly in gear when I replied. It is of course Ave Verum Corpus, rather than Ave Maria. I've actually never sung it to the English works, whether Mozart, Elgar or Byrd, so didn't immediately recognise the connection. Interesting about the Elgar being set to different text originally.<br />
I can't open the file under 7 motetten, but the music looks the same as the Ornes version on CPDL. I guess it's probably worth putting it up with English words too. James Gibb<br />
:Nice, a blue link then! Now we just have to [[Talk:Ave verum I (Charles Gounod)|sort out the targent page name]]... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Fuerunt mihi lacrimae (Alfonso Ferrabosco II)|Fuerunt mihi lacrymae]] ==<br />
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Richard, you are quite right to suggest E minor rather than G for the transposed key. Rather too many D sharps for me to contradict you convincingly. I've added the actual allocation of the parts for the SATB version, which seems to chime with the Fowler TTBB allocation, though I've moved one low B in the S up an octave for convenience.<br />
I assume it's your addition of F minor to the Fowler edition, but I think it should be up a minor 2nd, not a minor third, unless you are referring to an edition I have no seen.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 16:06, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
:I'm just guessing that d is a plausible original key, the minor third being a popular transposition for editors of English music. If you based yours on the Fowler, then that would be _down_ a minor second! Maybe better not to speculate; I'd better try to remember take a look next time I'm at the library, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:50, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== 2 cents ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your comments on my talk page. I had decided not to continue replying to the gentleman of very set opinion. Regards, Paul Marchesano [[User:Marchesa|Marchesa]] 20:56, 29 April 2011 (CDT)<br />
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==[[Ewig dein WoO 161 (Ludwig van Beethoven)| "Ewig Dein"]] - Voicing ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for your revision. I'm pretty new on this pages. But in case you decide to perform the canon with mixed choir (for example SST), the voicing isn't equal any more. Is this a problem? [[User:B.peterson|bp]] 08:16, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
:Not for me personally ;-) (A purist within earshot might take issue with the resulting 64 inversions.) <br />
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:But the voicing template doesn't need to foresee every possible performance option: for a cappella works we often list AATBB in the General info. section and let editors add Category:SSATB in their Edition notes, and I see that [[Say, wanton, will you love me? (Thomas Weelkes)]] might be treated this way. Welcome to CPDL, and thanks for your editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:30, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== tidying up duplicate page ==<br />
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"(Deletion log); 19:46 . . Richard Mix (Talk | contribs) deleted "Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen" (Superfluous page: duplicates Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen (Friedrich Silcher))"<br />
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Thank you Richard, this was my first submission to CPDL, now I know that when you edit the composer's page first, you get the desired ''Title (Composer)'' suggested. Regards -- [[User:KlausFoehl|KlausFoehl]] 17:29, 16 July 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glen O'Brien) ==<br />
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Thank you Richard for an appropriate page for the arrangement. My name is actually spelt Glenn O'Brien.[[User:Glennobrien|Glennobrien]] 09:42, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
:You're welcome, and very sorry about that! I noticed you already fixed a couple of things, and I've just moved the page to [[Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glenn O'Brien)]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:45, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Magnificat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for the improvements to the page; it makes more sense indeed to have the Latin text come first. I'll see if I can improve it a bit more, putting the remaining translations in two columns. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 09:30, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Thanks for your sharp eyes on the Greek, too; I'll ask another question on [[Talk:Magnificat]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:42, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Carols for Choirs ==<br />
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Hi Richard<br />
I am in the process of spreading sortable tables through the ''…for Choirs'' pages, and came across your suggestion to merge the Carols for Choirs pages ([[Carols for Choirs 1]], 1 Sept, 2011).<br />
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Is [[Carols for Choirs|this]] the sort of thing you had in mind?. Would it make sense to have any discussion about this [[Talk:Carols for Choirs|here]]?<br />
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[[User:Peter Gibson|Peter Gibson]] 07:57, 7 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the note! [[Talk:Carols for Choirs]] indeed makes sense. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:17, 8 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Musica Divina transcriptions ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for the additional information you are adding to the Musica Divina editions I've been transcribing. I would do it myself, if I knew which categories existed!<br />
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I've also noticed that you've added an original pitch and note length version of Lassus's Dextera Domini. As a couple of people have asked that I upload "unaltered" versions as well, my intention is to go back through the stuff I've already uploaded and do just that. (It's relatively easy, since I do the transcription into original clefs and note lengths to minimise transcription mistakes, and only then make any adjustments) I'm certainly not going to duplicate work that you've already done; this is just to let you know that providing originals (with modern clefs) is high up on my to-do list.<br />
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Your email address on your CPDL page appears not to work, by the way, but perhaps I interpreted it too literally.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 02:29, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:I was just about to write you congratulations and also see if we can better divide up Lassus: I already have on hand a lot of the offertory motets for 4 vv: Benedic anima; Benedicam Dom.; Benedictus es...doce; Confitebor tibi; Dextera Dom.; Dom. convertere; Dom. in auxilium; Dom vivifica me; Exaltabo te; Expectans; Gressus meos; Illumina oculos; Immittet angelus; Improperium; In te speravi; Intende voci; Jubilate Deo; Lauda anima mea; Meditabor, Perfice gressus; Populum humilium; Precatus es; Scapulis suis; Sperunt in te. What a drag that we're using incompatible programs, otherwise we'd have really powerful proofreading tools!<br />
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:Hotmail is what I hope the non-bots will guess, btw. ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Thanks. I'll do a skim through the Lassus that is available on the Musica Divina motets and let you know which ones aren't on your list, or otherwise available on CPDL. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 08:52, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Of the 20 Lassus motets that are in Musica Divina Vol II, the following don't currently appear in CPDL:<br />
:Benedicite Gentes<br />
:Domine in auxilium meum respice<br />
:Factus est Dominus firmamentum<br />
:In te speravi Domine<br />
:Joannes est nomen eius<br />
:Sperent in te omnes<br />
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I think these are all 4-part, but I haven't checked individually. There may be other motet-like things appearing in the other volumes, but I'll check that later. Given that you've already done the 4th and the 6th on the list, and assuming that you have another source anyway, I suggest that I pick the remaining 4, unless you have already started on any of them, Richard.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:12, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Didn't notice that you had included Domine in Auxilium on your list, so I've now uploaded copies of Benedicite Gentes, Factus est Dominus firmamentum and Joannes est nomen eius. I've also uploaded a 4-part version of Eripe me, since the version currently on CPDL is a 3-part one. All at original pitch and note value secundum Proske, although I've also uploaded a transposed version of Eripe me, since it goes so low that only proper basses can get there with any confidence!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:11, 14 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Incomplete Editions ==<br />
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LOL Richard, it seems we were having similar thoughts, but posted in different places; only after opening a discussion at [[Template talk:IncompleteEdition]] I saw that you had also done it at [[Category talk:Incomplete editions]]. Please check there too! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 19:34, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Done, and point about thin skins taken, though inapplicable to latest new contributor, I trust. Ciao! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:35, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
::Hi, thanks for your comments on the template talk page. I'm still thinking about the various possibilities and will reply you soon. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:47, 21 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Veni sponsa Christi ==<br />
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Good point, Richard. I actually read it as bride, but without thinking of the inappropriate connotations! Incidentally, I've noticed that some of the additions you are making in the form of "Common of..." are coming up red, presumably because the appropriate category page has yet to be created. At the moment, that's rather beyond my job group, though I hope to improve!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 12:14, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
:You're [[Veni Sponsa Christi (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)|not the first]], nor was [[Veni, Sponsa Christi (Peter Philips)|Mick the last]]! I should have remembered the text via Couperin's Motets de Ss Anne & Suzanne. <br />
:Even now the redlinks can be used to see what other pieces are gathered but they should of course be turned blue eventually to standardize {{CiteCat|Common of Virgins}} (correct, according to Palmer/Burgess) vs. {{CiteCat|Common of a Virgin}} (top of my head) and also to be gathered as subcategories of {{CiteCat|Common of Saints}}. Carlos & Chuck were [[Category talk:Sacred music by season|very helpful with Sacred music by season]] and once I refresh my memory I'll have a go at the coding; in the meantime I remain in amazed admiration of your industry in making beautiful editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:44, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Sheppard's [[In manus tuas (John Sheppard)|In manus tuas]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for making the titles uniform. I was thinking that perhaps we could rename all three of them to the usual ''In manus tuas I'', ''II'' and ''III'', what do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 08:32, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Yes, that would be more in line with prevailing practice and I considered it; on the other hand, it suggests that the non-parenthetical roman numeral is part of the original title, or at least a generally accepted numbering. I don't know if that is in fact the case... Are you aware of any previous discussions towards a cpdl style manual? At present we have:<br />
*'''title ''a'' N (composer)''' where it is possible to disambiguate by number of voices<br />
*'''title (composer) (voci (im-)pari)''' where there are mixed- and 'equal-' (better unmixed?) voice versions<br />
*'''Magnificat N toni (composer) ((im-)pari)''' for alternatim settings<br />
:All the above convey a lot of information to browsers of categories and have some historical precedent as well. Then we have:<br />
*'''Agnus Dei III (anonymous)''' which might mean "...dona nobis pacem", or the third such title in order of the Trent codices, or maybe the second, with another ms. source having already claimed I or II, or even the full title given by a composer (as in Ann Callaway's [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/scores/callawayagnus.pdf ''Agnus dei I''], listed as ''Agnus Dei 1'' in the [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/Choral.html Arsis Press catalogue]). (2nd setting) is a bit anglophone-centric, but I do at least like the parentheses. <br />
:Thanks for raising this issue! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 17:01, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Richard, when I started editing on CPDL the current standards were pretty much established already, but I guess some older discussion can be found on this subject if one searches in the [[CW:BB]] or in the forums. The practice has been to add II (III etc.) to the title when a different setting of an otherwise homonym work is added. Regarding the use of parentheses to isolate the numbering, as in ''Agnus Dei (III)'', I believe it's a matter of personal taste. I particularly would never confuse ''Agnus Dei III'' with its third repetition :) I also prefer Roman numerals to Arabic ones. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 01:13, 12 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Funerary works ==<br />
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Hi Richard, Jonathan has suggested to create a category under this title, but I confess that I'm not knowledgeable enough on this subject to help him. Your opinion would be appreciated on my talk page. Thanks, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 06:05, 5 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Subgenre ==<br />
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I see that you introduced a new genre entry without any problem; way to go! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:46, 8 December 2012 (CST)<br />
:I was given very helpful hints! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:54, 9 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Lumen ad revelationem ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for correcting the category on this. I must say I was at something of a loss to think of how one would use a bit of the Nunc dimittis liturgically.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks also for the corrections you made to [[Dominica in Palmis (Emerico Lobo de Mesquita)|Dominica in Palmis]]! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Your edition of Victimae paschali laudes by Orlando di Lasso ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I'm working on this piece and I would like to check with you the last note of bass on bar 59 (G, syllable "Ma"). The Sämtliche Werke (Neue Reihe) edition published by Bärenreiter appears to have an F instead. Could you please confirm that the G is OK? Thank you. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 18:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I can't remember if it was an editorial choice or in whatever source I used then; the F seems implausible though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I'll use the G then. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 05:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== LinkText alternative text for link display ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I saw your query on [[Template talk:LinkText]] and have added a fix for that (just add new field "alt=Psalm 147 (vulgata)" to get "Psalm 147 (vulgata)" displayed as the link. I haven't documented it yet or expanded its functionality for more than one link yet, but you raised a good point that was easy to fix! &nbsp; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 14:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Very neat, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== S S Wesley Magnificat in E ==<br />
Hi, Richard.<br />
I agree that FF is more likely than EE in the Alto, bar 5, since ATB are otherwise in unison (or octaves). I've changed my edition accordingly. It would be good to get hold of an original source, but I can't find one on the web at all. Until then, at least my edition is usable, which the John Henry Fowler one wasn't!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 13:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Purcell anthems ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your useful additions to the Purcell anthems I've been uploading recently. Much appreciated. You may be able to help with a piece of notation that occasionally appears in the source document. This is :S:. My guess is that it is a form of repeat mark, but I have failed to find any confirmation of this, either on the internet, or in a couple of musical dictionaries that I've looked at.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 12:44, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I'll look later if there's a facsim. link; John Gosling uses something a bit like that for a trill. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:54, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, [http://imslp.org/wiki/Harmonia_Sacra_(Purcell,_Henry) pp36-7] is indeed no ornament but a ''segno.'' If two minim rests are understood it could work as a ''petit reprise''. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 08:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, thanks for that useful link. You'll notice from my most recent upload that I've added the Z number. When I get time, I'll go through the Purcell page and add the Z numbers to the other editions. Incidentally, the one I have just uploaded is the last one in the facsimile I was working from, so there will now be a hiatus, as far as Purcell is concerned!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasonal music ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I've just created [[ChoralWiki:Seasonal music]] in order to simplify your weekly updates. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 15:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think I can remember where to go in the future, and that's editable by non-admins who might want to take over, probably a good thing. Since it's less intuitive how to edit the Main page, should there be a pointer on Talk:? There's a little more on [[User talk:CHGiffen#Main page]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 10:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard, what did you have in mind when you proposed to automate this page? Should it be updated on a monthly basis, or is it preferable on a weekly basis? In that case, which day of the week would be best for the updates? If you already have an idea of what should be displayed on each month (or week), please post it on [[ChoralWiki talk:Seasonal music]] and I'll take care of the rest. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deus in adjutorium/Domine ad adjuvandum ==<br />
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Richard, I think you may not have fully appreciated to muddle I was trying to sort out! The ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' page was created by me in my first attempt to tidy up the text pages. That was before I related it properly to the ''Deus in adjutorium'' page, which makes it clear that the source text is the same. Some versions of ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' appeared on both text pages, some on neither. As a first step, putting everything on the same page seemed sensible. (This is of course about the Vespers versicle; there is also a separate page for the introit which draws on the same text.)<br />
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I think it's at least arguable that two separate text pages might be better, though there would need to be clear cross links, as with ''Tantum ergo'' and ''Pange lingua''. So your views on how best to do this, given your detailed understanding of the minutiae of Roman Catholic liturgy, would be welcome.<br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 17:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm often in [[Tota pulchra es|a muddle]] myself ;-) I think you did well to make a single page and regard them as the same text, and I imagine "Domine ad" settings would normally be preceded by an intoned "Deus in". I would urge though that non-standard versions be left on the work pages: One should be able learn that Gastoldi has some weird verse by looking [[Domine ad adiuvandum (Giovanni Gastoldi)|at this page]], and later someone can figure out what's up. [[Domine ad adjuvandum me (Orlando di Lasso)|Lasso's Offertory]] uses the Gradual's non-vulgate translation of Ps. 40 (If you want to really set your head spinning look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Psalters WP's Latin psalters article]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== cat vs vcat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, just a quick reminder: when linking to a voicing category as [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ave_Maria_(Charles_Gounod)&diff=next&oldid=497976 you did here], please remember to use {{tl|vcat}} instead of {{tl|cat}}. Otherwise the work may not be locatable by the Multi-Category Search when that specific voicing is searched for. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Nunc dimittis ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Could you explain what it is you were doing with the [[Nunc dimittis]] page? As near as I can tell, if you were trying to collect together settings that have been paired with a Magnificat (for Choral Evensong use in the Anglican tradition) and separate out all the others, then from what I can tell, the work is incomplete. On the other hand, an isolate ''Nunc dimittis'' (or ''Magnificat'') could just as well be intended as a part of an "Evening Service"&nbsp;&ndash; as my own setting is (and now appears orphaned along with a couple of other settings below the "Evening Service" list, and the same goes for the Mundy setting which was evidently intended for Anglican use. Any clarification (and cleanup) would be appreciated. Thanks! &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure; besides the self explanatory part, the 3 orphans are: *[[Nunc dimittis (Charles H. Giffen)]], [[Nunc Dimittis Canonico Johannes (Harrison Hackett)]], and [[Nunc Dimittis (William Mundy)]]. I didn't have enough information handy to decide to which they belonged, but didn't think to add a cleanup tag. Does the Mundy then have an accompanying Mag.? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't know if the Mundy has a matching, but I'd be surprised if it didn't. What about the Tim Risher, which has no matching Mag listed (as far as I can tell)? This aside, I wonder why the category {{CiteCat|Evening Canticles}} already does (or should do) the classification you're seeking. Are you planning to do the same thing to the [[Magnificat]] page? &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::(I did find the Mundy.) As I recall, I was interested in Latin settings at the time, and winnowing out "In English, as Part of an Evening Service" seemed a good idea. If you have thoughts on organizing the page, let's move to [[Talk:Nunc dimittis]], though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:34, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Pange Lingua ==<br />
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Thanks for your note, Richard.<br />
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No, there is no intention of recombining the Tantum ergo and Pange lingua pages. You may recall that there was a discussion about this a year or more back and the consensus was that a split would be appropriate, given the large number of settings and the different liturgical uses - you will know much more about the latter than I do!<br />
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There was an earlier discussion, which again you may recall, about whether the list of works on the text pages should be created automatically, (which is efficient, but cannot include information useful to the searcher, like voicing, or what parts of the text are used in a particular edition) or manually. The disadvantage of the manual list is that editors may neglect to add the relevant details to the text page.<br />
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Carlos has come up with a neat solution, which lists those editions which refer to the text page but do not appear in the manual list. There are two reasons for items being on that list; the obvious one, that the editor has neglected to add it, and a subtler one, that the name of the works page has been altered in some way, without all the relevant links being checked and altered accordingly.<br />
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What I have been doing when I come upon a page with a "missing items" list is to make the necessary manual additions, and adjustments to works page links that have been changed. <br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 18:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== I heard a voice from heaven - Tomkins ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that. I think what must have happened is that I've inadvertently deleted the Tomkins files while thinking they were the Goss or Morley settings, since I hadn't included the composer name in the file name. I've taken the opportunity to do a bit of tidying - the version I had originally done now looks rather cramped - but it should all be there now.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ich hebe meine Augen SWV 31 ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting the duplicated title. I'm not sure where it came from and deleting it caused some difficulty. However, now sorted, so I've removed the score error message. <br />
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On musica ficta, yes, you have interpreted it correctly. The only possible confusion might be that, in the source, the figured bass is also written above the stave and that has accidentals in it too. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 20:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I suppose so! Have you seen those Italian prints where the 'accidental' is on the staff but, when one peers closely enough, centered on the line or space a third above the bass note? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, in case you are not 'watching' my talk page, I've replied to your latest query about ''Ad te levavi animam meam'' there, to keep the thread together. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Da pacem, Domine]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I noticed that you moved this text page to the comma-less form. There are around 4-5 work titles that use the version with comma; should we standardize them by removing the comma? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, <br />
:I don't think so, unless a NoTi(tle) template for text pages is being contemplated. Work titles can follow the composer's (or even editor's) usage, while uniform text page title style (borrowed from Solsmes indexing style) is just to take some guesswork out of adding LinkText|unpunctuated title. For that reason I'd [[Category_talk:Voicing#Renaming Categories|still like to do something]] about the red {{CC|Solo soprano}} and the ridiculously cumbersome to remember [[Category talk:Hymn meters#Simpler meter names|hymn meter names.]] [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 21:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
::OK! I sometimes add commas to titles if I think it'll clarify their meaning, but I agree that for Latin this is not so common or even necessary. Regarding hymn meter names, this is a somewhat cryptic subject to me, sorry for not being able to contribute to the discussion. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Seid Barmherzig (Heinrich Schütz) ==<br />
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Unfortunately not, Richard. That was my initial thought, but bars 198-210 are different, although the notes are often the same. So I've rolled back your edit.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 21:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== O sacramentum pietatis ==<br />
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Hi Richard! After creating a text page for ''[[O sacramentum pietatis]]'', I noticed that [[O sacramentum pietatis H 260 (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)|the text used by Charpentier]] is completely different. Maybe you (or James?) could help identify the source of this second text? And how can we properly differentiate both titles, in your opinion? Thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 23:25, 29 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tota pulchra es (Gregorian chant) ==<br />
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Hi, Richard. You removed the 'Broken link' tag of [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) this edition/page]. It's a link to the Abel DiMarco's site, where we find two links: one for Palestrina and the other for Lassus. Where do we have to go to find the score? Please help the users. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Claude; sorry, I don't quite understand: I can click the link to Abel's site, click on T, get:<br />
*Tantum ergo. Partitura<br />
*Te lucis ante terminum. Partitura<br />
*Tollite portas. Partitura<br />
*Tota pulchra es. Partitura<br />
*Tu es qui venturus es?. Partitura<br />
*Turba multa. Partitura<br />
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:then (on the third try) clicking on Tota pulcra I get the advertised file with the Gregorian chant. Is there perhaps a different page that has ambiguous links? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:36, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, Richard. It's weird, when I click on T, get:<br />
::• Tota Pulchra es. Lassus (2 v. i.) Partitura <br />
::• Tota pulchra es. Palestrina (Coro 5 v.m.) Partitura <br />
::the page is that one: http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/t/<br />
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::BTW, I don't see how I could merge pages according to your suggestion [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Agnus_Dei_a_3_(Francesco_Lorenzo_Luciani) here] because I don't find the same underlay text, nor the same music. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::Weird indeed! There seem to be separate indexes for chant and polyphony. From your page I was finally able to click my way to http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/cantoral-gregoriano/#T The trick is to use the lower of the two indexes. Shall I revise the link on http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) ? <br />
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:::I don't remember what I was thinking about on the Luciani page, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hello guys! I, just like Richard, was only looking at the lower index that pointed to the correct work on that same page. Only now I noticed the other indexes above that lead to another page with polyphonic works. I've tweaked the {{CT|Website}} template so that now it adds the index automatically, based on work title (#T in this case). How do you like it? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 03:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That's great, thanks. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Thank you ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your (belated) welcome. And thanks for your kind words about my edition. [[User:D-fished|D-fished]] ([[User talk:D-fished|talk]]) 20:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Vater Abraham ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that I don't know the range of a concert flute! I've altered the files so that the second flute is an alto flute, duly transposing the notes and changing the description accordingly.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:37, 10 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== nonbot seeking dothint ==<br />
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hey richard! giovanni.cervo or senza punto at the thermodynamix postmastery? <br><br />
k regards <br><br />
Tulipo Petressian 19:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I don't own a dictionary with the word "dothint", sorry! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 07:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: sorry too, but the dothint wasn't even in the question. which was: please give me a clue about whether or not there would be a dot between name and surname in your mail address! Tulipo Petressian 08:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::Ah, I'm a little slow today; the spell-checker even suggested dot hint. Only one dot, between [appropriate substitution]mail and com.[[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 11:00, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::: phew, confusing botphobian riddling! allow me some slow thinking as well: I had no doubts about the dot between mail and com, so you are telling me there is no other dot, only a nondot between john and doe?! Tulipo Petressian 18:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:LOL, I'm loving this! "Talk ''nerdy'' to me." :)<br />
:That's it, Tulipo, no dots between john & doe. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 19:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: bravo, don c! (or would you prefer nondon?) Tulipo Petressian 19:39, 26 January 2016 (UTC)</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Richard_Mix&diff=593334User talk:Richard Mix2016-01-26T18:27:15Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* nonbot seeking dothint */</p>
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<div>==Problems submitting a score==<br />
Hi, I'm struggling to learn the ropes here. After a few abortive attempts at "Add scores to CPDL" I found one file under my contributions page: [[Image:Gaudeamus Battistini.pdf]] and have made an article page for it. <small>—The preceding [[ChoralWiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Richard Mix|Sparafucil]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richard Mix|contribs]]) on 18:16, 15 January 2008.</small><br />
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:Hi there. Welcome to CPDL and thank you for your edition! I'm sorry to hear that you're having difficulties. I've just created the [[Giacomo Battistini|composer page]] and added the works entry to it. Please supply the following information and I will format the score page correctly:<br />
:*Your real name<br />
:*The copyright that you are assigning to your edition (the preference is the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]] but you may apply any license to your edition; it would be a good idea to add this information to the bottom of the first page of the PDF too)<br />
:*A MIDI file would be very useful if you are able to create one (not required but useful)<br />
:When you come to your next score submission, please try to follow the score submission guide which I think is very clear. If you're having problems, please leave a message on [[User talk:Bobnotts|my talk page]], noting the part that you're having difficulties with and I will endevour to help. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:58, 15 January 2008 (PST)<br />
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== Beatus vir ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I had to revert your edits made to [[Beatus vir, RV 597 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 597]], because you were inadvertently removing the original info. You probably wanted to edit [[Beatus vir, RV 598 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 598]], right? What probably happened was that you clicked on page RV 598 and was "redirected" to RV 597 without noticing it. When we move a page to another name, the original name automatically receives a "redirect" code to the new page. If that's what happened, tell me and I will copy to RV 598 the edits you made, so that you don't lose what you had already done. Regards -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 21:40, 16 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:Yes, that was it! I thought there was something wrong; thanks for putting it right. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 18:38, 17 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::Hi Richard, here I am again. I'm not sure I understood what you did. The PDFs you uploaded to RV 598 specify on their first pages that they are from RV 597! Is that correct? From what I saw, ''Beatus vir'' RV 597 is in C major, and RV 598 is in B flat major. I think it would be a good idea also to check with the admins if CPDL allows pages hosting only the orchestra parts, without their corresponding vocal parts. -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:52, 19 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::Yes, the two pages now need to be swapped. How did you find the uploaded files? And where should I try contacting the admins (one is Rafael, I assume? I would think it only a matter of time before someone adds choral parts, but... ) tia, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 07:28, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::::Hi Richard, the two pages contents are now swapped, remember your scores are now in RV 597! I found your uploaded files looking at the upload log available at [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] in the left menu. Try asking your questions to admins here: [[ChoralWiki:Sheet music requests and questions]]. Regards! -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:39, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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== Redirects ==<br />
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Hi Richard!<br />
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I'd like to know if there is a reason why you created a redirect to [[When Israel came out of Egypt (William Byrd)|this work]]. If you type these exact words in the search box, the correct page will be the first (and only) to appear, so this redirect seems unnecessary. The same applies to the various Hanacpachap redirects you created. The variant spellings are all inside the works page, so someone searching for any of them should be able to find that work without the need of the redirects. <br />
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Redirects are usefull only in some specific situations, as when we use template <nowiki>{{ChoralWiki}}</nowiki> on Wikipedia to redirect to a page on CPDL and the Wikipedia article title is different from the title at CPDL. Regards —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 16:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Carlos,<br />
:I was only trying to turn a red link at [[Psalm 114]] blue, which is also easily accomplished by adding a first name. Is there a downside to having redirects? The only way I could find [[Hanacpachap]] before was to go to [[Anonymous#H|anonymous and look under H]], which took quite a few extra seconds;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard,<br />
::In fact redirects do increase a little bit the database's workload, since they need to be indexed too; we also have more work when we need to move the target page to a different title; but they are nonetheless useful in many situations. It's strange you couldn't find ''Hanacpachap'': if you try a search with this name the works page shows up. This is what we've been doing when possible: to add composer aliases and composition variant titles in the page text so they can be found easily via the Search tool. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, the only difference between "go" and "search" is the option to create a new page. I still have a WP habit of creating red links in preview mode to see what's there, but will try not to carry it over to CPDL (if you click on the one above you wont get any seach results at all). Shouldn't I have come across mention of this prefered strategy before somewhere? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Text sources ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for adding text sources to score pages. It really helps to make ChoralWiki a truly interlinked website. I had one doubt, though, [[Confitebor tibi Domine (Giovanni Gabrieli)]]. It looks more like parts of [[Psalm 9]] vv.2-3 & 16 to me (though I can't identify the entire text). Do you agree? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Dear Bob, <br>Thanks for the catch! The Vulgate lumps Ps's 9 & 10, so: 9:2-3, (I think you're right about 16), 12, 10:37a. Btw, re JSB I think you meant that it is preferable to have external links from a cpdl page as [[Cantata BWV 131 - Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir (Johann Sebastian Bach)|here]] (I'm looking into the title of bwv 131, often given as Aus der Tiefen). With all the material at bachcantatas.com it might be nice to have a BachCantata template. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about Sibelius 4 exporting to previous versions formats ==<br />
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Hi Richard I saw your question in John Patterson's talk page...Yes Sibelius 4(5 and now 6) gives you the possibility to save files so they can be opened with previous versions of Sibelius...that option is under the menu File and then Export (not "save as")...I hope it was helpful...[[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 02:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, it's only in Sib3 that it's under "save as SIb2 file". Thanks, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bach Cantatas ==<br />
:''(The other half of the conversation is [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Saniakob&oldid=214153 here])''<br />
Hi Richard, you are right...the reasons why I did that is because of organizational purposes...The page is still "under construction"...there are many things to fix...So for the moment I am ordering editions...and creating sections (like Cantatas, Chorales so on) to put things in order...once all editions are ordered I will work on each section....So far, the cantatas which have a page including all pieces are those which are complete...Cantatas which have only some pieces in CPDL are given as titles with the corresponding editions listed below...I pretend to change that in the future, but for now that is the criterion...Thanks for the suggestion and comment!![[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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My apologies Richard, now I see, your edition is of Movement 1 and I listed it in Movement 7 page...my mistake... There is a problem on making a page for the whole cantata when there are available only 2 Movements.If you see CPDL requires that the number of editions available must be mentioned...the cantatas which are complete and have editions of independent movements mention this "full score and independent movements" (or similar text). It is impossible to mention which movements are included in each page; it is note possible to write "some movements available" or to mention each movement next to the Cantata title. For clarity, the movements available are listed under the Cantata tile...This criterion is used in all CPDL pages, or at least is what I have been told by Admins...CPDL manager also added some templates to be used for the Cantatas section and did not object how things were, so I assume things are correctly organized... Regarding, languages and other mistakes on the edition pages... I will correct that in a near future, I am checking page by page...and taking notes on what needs to be fixed....For the moment, all of my time goes on finding the corresponding BWV catalog number for each entry on the page and checking if they are missatributions, translations or other stuff, as well as sending each edition to its corresponding section within the page...Regarding your suggestion of opening another Bach project in CPDL...I can't answer that...I think an Admin will give you a proper reply...Thanks again - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The discussion you mention is about merging pieces which are the same piece but with different titles translated to other languages. I will ask you please to stop changing things at the page. If you were concerned with Bach page you could have adopted it before. I took it and CPDL admins know about it. I appreciate your concern but undoing my work doesn't help. Since CPDL was created Bach page is a mess...and things are much ordered now. Please respect my decisions about the page management, there is 1 volunteer per page and with Bach page it happens to be me...If you have a complain direct it to the admins...I wouldn't like to report you for interfering because I know you try to help, but this is not the right way. Please be patient, things can't be fixed in 2 days, actually, I am volunteering since one month ago and there is a lot to do and the time I could use to improve the page I am spending undoing your changes because you don't respect my position as volunteer with the page. - Thanks [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 20:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Never mind. I step out. I am no longer volunteering with this page. Feel free to take the position, it is available.<br />
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Here is my reply to your comment in [[User_talk:CHGiffen#Bach_Cantatas|Mr. Giffen's talk page]]....<p>"I stepped out. I am no longer volunteering. Offer the position of volunteering with Bach Page to Mr. Mix who thinks he can do a much better job than me...I wish he would have made something when no one was maintaining the page for years and not just now when someone else started doing the job. I worked for 10 years as manager and copyist of a music repository at a university and I thought I knew some stuff of the trade...but I guess I was wrong. Besides, you modified things in the page (adding the templates for the cantatas) and you didn't told me anything about my way of organizing things...just now when I have this discussion you tell me about CPDL rules and make me look like a fool when I try to defend my point of view with Mr. Mix. Finally, If I did not read wrong, the Adopt a composer program states clearly that there is 1 volunteer per page...so "collaborative work" as Mr. Mix call it doesn't apply for some things...like changing things at will... I understand collaborative work is teaching people how to make a submission to CPDL correctly (which I did) because the information given by the site is confusing....or translating pages to other languages to make CPDL more accessible to everyone (which I also did)... I know perfectly what collaborative work is. I am a professional with enough experience in my field and I won't work under this conditions. Perhaps I misunderstood what CPDL was about...if that's the case then I am to blame. Thank you."</p><br />
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Things are exactly as they were before I took Bach page...so you can start the work in the way you love most...Best Regards - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 17:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Failed contributions==<br />
Hi Richard. You tried to contribute editions of two Mendelssohn pieces to CPDL on 21st July but I can't locate any files for these editions. Could you point me in the right direction, please? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sure- on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090724002639&target=Richard+Mix my contributions page] I still see: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).sib and http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).pdf on the page [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]], as well as two more files up at [[Im Wald. Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]]. Thanks, and hope I havnt unwittingly made anything harder. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry - my mistake. I found the page [[Im Walde, Op. 41, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] linked from the [[Mendelssohn]] page and when I didn't see your edition listed, I got confused! Nothing wrong with [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] but [[Im Wald Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] was missing a catalogue number and wasn't linked to from the main [[Mendelssohn]] page. I've fixed both of those things now. Thanks --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Sacred feasts ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for improving the texts of those categories, I never imagined this subject could be so complex :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 18:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Salve Regina]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your work on this page. You'll see that I moved the external link you added to under the "external links" section. I feel that we need to draw the line somewhere, otherwise people would add any vaugely relevant links to the settings list and clutter it up. I hope that's ok with you. <br />
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Also, you asked: "should all voicings redirect as SATB does?" in an edit summary for the page. Firstly, please don't use edit summaries to ask question - they should be used to give a brief summary of the edit and nothing else. The best place to ask questions is on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums]. To answer your question, though, there's no strict rule for redirects but generally I'd say that [[SATB]] is only a redirect because it's a voicing that's used so frequently. To add links to categories quickly (without categorising the page in the category), use the "CiteCat" template, like this: <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|SSATB}}</nowiki></tt>. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 15:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Text page links ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for all your help lately! Just thought I'd mention one thing: when you add a link to a text page from a score page, such as on [[Ave Maria, Op. 23, No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] and [[Laudate Dominum omnes gentes, III (Claudio Monteverdi)]], please try to remember to also update the text page to link back to the score page. That way, someone looking for a particular text can find all the settings of it on CW (in theory!) I've just updated the text pages for those score pages. I know it's easy to forget sometimes. Thanks again. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 12:16, 26 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Declare his honour - Henry Purcell ==<br />
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I hope I'm adding comments to the correct page, since it's not enirely obvious how one contacts people in Choral Wiki<br />
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With regard to my reformatting of the Fowler version of this, bar 75 should have read bar 74 (and the last note of bar 73), where the bass part seems to have been transposed down by a 6th. (This is fairly obvious when you play it back. It also corresponds with bar 247 of the Callon version of O sing unto the Lord). The same transposition seems to have occurred in the bass accompaniment in bar 76.<br />
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I have corrected these (and taken the liberty of removing your error message at the same time!) I've also uploaded new versions of the .pdf, .mid and .cap files.<br />
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I've found some oddities when uploading new versions of files. Although I uploaded a revised version of the .pdf file on 7th February, the file that was there when I opened it today appeared to be the original version. I have uploaded a new version and that seems now to be the version in Choral Wiki. However, the .cap file I uploaded at the same time seems not to have been uploaded, since it is still the old file which opens.<br />
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On the question of combining this with O sing unto the Lord, that is obviously a sensible move. However, from the point of view of practical use for singers, I don't think most choirs would make much use of the full version, so I would suggest there should still be a link on the Purcell main page for "Declare his honour", which redirects to "O sing unto the Lord"<br />
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:Welcome! A lot of useful discussion does happen on user talk pages; there are also the CPDL fora, which confusingly require a separate login even if you use the same name and password. If it's alright with you though, I'll copy the Purcell-specific discussion to [[Talk:O sing unto the Lord (Henry Purcell)]].<br />
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:Thanks for the corrections and clarifications! I'm not sure about the oddities yet, but will have another look, and add the error report to Fowler. <br />
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:I agree about the redirect in case anyone searches under "D". This is handled by turning subpage Declare His Honor (Henry Purcell) into a redirect. It isnt necessary to have the file in two places, as with the redundant Agnus Dei (Marc-Antoine Charpentier): here I think even a redirect to [[Messe de Minuit pour Noël (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)]] is unneeded. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gaudeamus omnes (Giacomo Battistini)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. [[User:Sparafucil]] once uploaded an edition of the work above, but the name in the score is yours! Was Sparafucil an old account you were using before registering as Richard Mix? Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I'd forgotten. Can you delete the account? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Better yet, I've merged the old account into the new one, to unify your contributions. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Motets ==<br />
Hi Richard, I've noticed you 'depopulated' the liturgical music cat in favour of 'motet' on one of my contributions. As you may have noticed, there is a discussion on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4853 forums] about this issue, as yet without decisive outcome. In the case of Mondondone's "Deus in adiutorium", I disagree with your categorisation - it is an office versicle with a clear an unequivocal functional role, pretty much unimaginable in any other context. As for the stylistic issues, those remain to be debated, as you can see on the forums. Would you consider contributing to the discussion? [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 13:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you for the pointer! I'll try to sort it out what I think... I suppose though we're not in disagreement that category:Office versicles would ultimately be more easily searchable than "liturgical music"? In the meantime, we could make a [[Deus in ajutorium]] textpage (maybe just a redirect to a sub-section of [[Psalm 70]]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Psalms ==<br />
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Richard, not sure if I'm doing this the right way, since it doesn't seem immediately intuitive how to reply to comments from someone.<br />
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I suppose the psalm chants I've been adding are an anthology, in the sense that they are the ones we generally use in the choir that I belong to. The only reason that I've set them is Capella is that I got tired of illegible photocopies of words and music. Capella isn't brilliant at handling words if they are not set as lyrics under the notes, so I add the relevant text from a Word file and print the same page twice, once with the chant and once with the text. However, as I only do this when a new psalm comes to be sung, the set is not complete. <br />
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I'm not clear how (or where) I should put them if they were to be presented as an anthology. Would they still appear on the composer pages, but just with a different title?<br />
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On the small "c" for chant issue, I've been puzzled by why the link still appeared in red when I added a score, so that explains it. I haven't typed it in with an upper case C; that's provided by the dropdown list from "Add scores to CPDL". I'll correct by hand for the moment, but it might be useful if someone could alter the dropdown list eventually, to eliminate the problem automatically.<br />
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:Hi James, seems right enough to me. There is a confusing choice of venues around cpdl, and a lot gets done on usertalk pages like this. I raised the dropdown bug at the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4935 operation & implementation] forum (these require a second login and password) and it may be fixed already. I also proposed hashing out psalm naming conventions on the [[Category talk:Anglican chants|category talk page]]; maybe we'll be joined by others. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Praeter rerum seriem ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I have to take exception with your designation of the [[Praeter rerum seriem (Anonymous)]] as being a Gregorian chant source rather than simply Anonymous. If you'll examint the setting, you'll see that it is a triple rhythm tune that is wholly inconsistent with being Gregorian chant, in spite of the text being a Marian sequence. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Charles! Maybe we differ on a definition of "Gregorian" rather than the particulars of the piece. Rhythmisized chant is squarely in that tradition, if I may so speak, and one may consider the long-short ''[[Of the Father's love begotten (Anonymous)|Divinum mysterium)]]'' to be the same piece as the unmeasured notation. <br />
:But I may just be confused about the 'original' ''Praeter rerum''. On a casual inspection, it looks like a Gregorian chant has been used as a tenor by Josquin, and that it differs in a few pitch details (second note, strain 2, and a few extra notes) from a chant book version, which can be adjusted to Josquin's rhythm. Does a different Gregorian melody exist? And did you have a mensural source for what the page calls "the Latin hymn"? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franz Schubert - Fünf Duette ==<br />
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Good morning Richard. Thank you for the cleaning of the Fünf Duette page. The problem i had with the newline character seems solved now. I can continue editing. [[User:BenZene|BenZene]] 08:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vidi aquam confusion ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I basically reverted your edits to [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]], since I think you didn't check the PDFs for the two recently posted scores. Each of these postings consists of THREE settings of Vidi aquam (so perhaps calling them I and II is a bit confusing). At any rate, (I) contains the three settings (all 3-part) from tr93 (pages 5v-6r, 6v-7r, 7v-8r), and (II) contains three settings (only the middle one is 4-part) from tr88 (pp 223v-224r) and tr89 (pp 228v-229r and 229v-230r). Only the first tr89 (pp 228v-229r) is 4-part.<br />
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I checked the pdf for [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]] but not looking at [[Vidi aquam I (Anonymous)]] misconstrued it as a separate work page for what I guess is Vidi aquam 5 [or maybe IIb?] (Anonymous). Thanks for the catch, and I hope you add the foliation info! Do you agree that there's something a bit wrong with the page names and that perhaps a merge if not a split is in order? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Given the way in which the 6 settings of Vidi aquam have been published here in two groups of three each, I'm tempted to suggest that they be merged onto one page, perhaps titled something like<br />
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Makes perfect sense to me. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 08:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Also for me. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== La cieca (Giovanni Ghizzolo) ==<br />
Richard, I'm not quite sure the canges you applied to the voicing cat on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/La_cieca_%28Giovanni_Ghizzolo%29 this] page are for the better. Any user interested in this sort of repertoire is unlikely to search for "Amarilli" as a solo voice type, is he? Besides, to the best of my knowledge, this change would make it one of the few (if any) pages where voicing information is mixed with/replaced by content. I'm not sure that labelling, say, Bach's Matthew Passion as containing "Christ" instead of "bass solo" would be the way to move forward. Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 15:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, The names of course are "piped" and link to Category:Solo Soprano and Category:Solo Tenor. I found the former ST choir designation more confusing myself; now I hope it is clear that the chorus is SSB and the other movements are dialogues for male & female soloists, but maybe you devise something better. Btw, thanks for the [[Mnogaya lyeta (Traditional)]] lyrics! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Voicing for [[I will worship towards thy holy temple (Arthur Sullivan)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I rolled back your voicing change. I'm not sure about the separate choir specification, but, if you look at mm 104-126, you'll see that at least 7 different voices are required (albeit at most 6 sing at any one time). Because of the way the score is laid out, I'm inclined to leave the two-choir voicing (rather than 7vv SSATTBB). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see what you mean. The layout implies choir two SA & TB each in unison. I dont suppose we can have 6|SATB.SATB, which would be my prefered version ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 03:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Say, Watchman, What of the Night? (Arthur Sullivan)|Say, watchman, what of the night?]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your comments, Richard. I think it almost certain that Sullivan, as an accomplished organist, would have specified organ accompaniment for a sacred work, so I must have had my mind not properly in gear to specify something else when entering the details! I've corrected the missing note in the accompaniment of bar 19 and also spotted a couple of misdirected tails, which didn't get automatically changed when I transposed it up a tone in Capella. I've reloaded updated versions of the files.<br />
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The small notes in the accompaniment are not intended to indicate rehearsal only. It's just that, by making the accompaniment small, I can get three systems on an A4 page in Capella in a readable form. (You can probably guess from this that I am a singer, rather than a keyboard player!) If the original indicates "for rehearsal only", I generally make this explicit.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah well, organists are expected to do the superhuman anyway: in this case to transpose a half step while the choir has the convenience of reading in one flat. This must have been before transposer knobs. I must say your version in G raises the bar for the minor mode passages! ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The way is long and dreary ==<br />
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(A title that makes you frantic to sing the piece!) When I was playing this back before submitting it this morning, parts of it sounded vaguely familiar. In fact, the Douglas Walczak Agnus Dei is an extract from this longer anthem, removing the Adelaide Procter bits. So I think they should somehow be linked, but have no idea how to do it myself. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 11:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I was going to wade in here and suggest putting a "See also:" (or "Also see:") item at the end of the "Music files" section for each work, with links between the two works pages (and even do it myself as an example as to illustrate how to do this in the future) &ndash; until I realized that we don't have the Walczak ''Agnus Dei'' at {{CW}}! So, instead, I would suggest simply adding a note in the "Description:" section in the Sullivan about the Walczak piece. There are several examples of the "See also:" usage &ndash; one at [[Advent Anthem (The Advent moon shines cold and clear) (Douglas Brooks-Davies)|''Advent Anthem'']] by [[Douglas Brooks-Davies]] interlinking with my own [[This Advent moon (Charles H. Giffen)|''This Advent moon'']] (which is why I know of the technique). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 12:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: Great idea Chuck, but wouldnt it logically go under '''General information;'''? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hassler Ave maris stella ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I really don't understand your instance on duplicating information in the Edition notes for both editions that is descriptive of the work and not of the editions. I already moved the fact that the chant (and cantus firmus) is mixolydian to the Description section. Moreover, there is no musical difference between the editions: indeed, the polyphony is the same for all three even verses. It just so happens that the Kelecom edition reproduces the music three times, once for each odd verse chant and once for each verse polyphony, while the earlier edition uses the more economical route of providing the chant and polyphony once, with the verses underlaid threefold. As for the question whether the music is transposed (or not) and because both editions share the same fate on this issue, my preference in such situation at CPDL is to leave the matter of announcing "F miixolydian" in the two editions out, until such time as we have sure knowledge of any transposition from the original work (Hassler was not above transposed modes in other works). Elsewhere, when there are more than one edition transposed to the same key (along with the original or other transpositions), we usually group editions with the same transposition under a single heading, such as with [[If ye love me (Thomas Tallis)]]. With this in mind, I hope you will reconsider what amounts to a restoration of your previous edits as an addition after my own edit (which was an attempt to avoid redundancy). I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Chuck! I'm not sure ''If ye love me'' is typical in this regard, though it is a clever solution. If there is no 'redundancy', it's not even clear the editions are at the same pitch, and we have to assume the general info has the correct original key. Thanks for prodding me, though: I'm beginning a long download of DdT to see what can be found there... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: Hi again Richard. Both editions are indeed "at the same pitch", 2 flats in the k.s., cantus firmus beginning on F, note values apparently halved from the original (pretty common). I do note that the Kelecom edition leaves off the 7th verse (chant, missed that previously). I'd be interested to learn what the DdT download turns up. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::...and the piece is in neither ''Cantiones Sacrae'' nor ''Sacri Concentus''. A search in Grove only gets hits for soAVE and bellAVEre, so I guess we're dealing with a contrafactum. Assuming something else turns up, do we replace the edition notes "in F mixolydian" with "original key" both times? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Palestrina Mags ==<br />
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Many thanks for your clarifications and alterations concerning the tricky question of Palestrina Magnificat settings - what you've done now is an immensurably better state of affairs than was in place before - many thanks indeed! Hopefully other people will latch on to the new system and either style their editions with the new clarification system or leave the editions in question open to clarification by contributors such as yourself. Unless I'm being thick, is it the case that there are multiple sections/chapters within the Magnificat octo tonum liber primus (Rome, 1591) publication (although bearing in mind the other Magnificats which were unpublished in 1591 and remain in manuscript form (although transcribed by haberl))? There was only this one publication, according to Grove, and I am unaware of any others. How is the 'book' system that you use set up? I am aware of the division of Haberl's volume into sections, but I can't remember how. Are you able to shed any light on this?<br />
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Re: Lassus Mags, if you're happy to send me facsimiles of Haberl, then I'll happily transcribe them! :-)<br />
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:I was just going by [http://imslp.org/wiki/XXXV_Magnificat_(Palestrina,_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da)], of which the first part is the 1591 "liber primus" (divided into odd and even), but I see that [http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da_Palestrina] doesnt list the subsequent 'liber's! I'll try downloading the forward to see if they had title pages... <br />
:... Ouf, my poor Latin, but Haberl's own Book Two title page clears things up a little: ''Magnificat octotonum quaternis vocibus. (liber secundus.) auctore Petraloysio Praestino nunc primum ex codice cappelae juliae ad S. Petrum Romae in partitionem redigit et edidit Fr. Xav. Haberl.'' A first edition! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Avoiding overcounting your editions ==<br />
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Hi Richard. The "Whatlinkshere" template does indeed overcount editions, because it provides a list of pages with links of any kind (not just links from Sheet music pages generated by the Editor template). That is why I created the "<EditorName> editions" categories. Replacing <tt><nowiki>{{Whatlinkshere}}</nowiki></tt> oh your User page with <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}</nowiki></tt> will solve the problem. Be aware that this will undercount your editions if you have more than one edition listed on a given works page. But at least it provides a shorter list to check (if you suspect you have duplications, as I do). Best wishe. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 22:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm still a little confused- There must be something missing from the template syntax {{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}, since [[:Category:Richard Mix editions]] is a blue link... Got it now, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: My bad... there should be a "|" after CiteCat, not a ":" ... sorry! I corrected the citation in my previous post above. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Missa quinque vocum (Mogens Pedersøn)]] ==<br />
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I think you were right in your edit summary, Richard, so I have returned the layout to a single edition incorporating all the assigned catalogue numbers in the edition notes as before. I came to this conclusion mainly because it is the same score link for all the movements. Feel free to revert. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 06:24, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OT post-Pentecost blunder ==<br />
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Hi Richard. You are entirely right - after I swapped Pentecost IX and X, I realized that you were problably right in putting X before IX for precisely the reason you gave in your edit summary. I hope you like the appearance of the wikitable format better, though. I'll make another pass through the Sundays after Pentecost to do a few cleanup and tidying chores, at least when I get a chance! Many thanks for taking on the organization of these liturgical categories. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the tidying, and it's just as well what I've typed in a hurry so far gets double-checked! <br />
:I've always copied code for tables from any old place I stumble across an example, but is there an official help page somewhere? I just noticed that [[Piae Cantiones]] has a sortable list, which might be handy for the [[Ordinary Time]] table. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Verse anthem? ==<br />
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Hi Richard. In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hosanna_to_the_Son_of_David_%28Orlando_Gibbons%29&diff=prev&oldid=259680 this edit], you labelled [[Hosanna to the Son of David (Orlando Gibbons)]] as a verse anthem. I thought I would double check we're agreed on this, as according to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_anthem Wikipedia article] and my limited knowledge on the subject, this surely is not a verse anthem but a full anthem. Was your edit a mistake? I have changed it back, at least for the time being. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You're absolutely right! I think I might have had [[Behold, I bring you glad tidings (Orlando Gibbons)]] on my mind at the time... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jesu, word of God incarnate in The Anthem Book ==<br />
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Regarding your question as to whether this was a version of Gounod's Ave Maria, my mind wasn't properly in gear, because I tend to think of that as Bach-Gounod. The answer is that it definitely isn't that, though I don't know what the original words might have been. I'll get round to submitting it shortly and check whether it matches any of the other Gounod stuff already uploaded.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 23:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:No, [[Talk:The Anthem Book|I meant]] the [[Ave verum corpus|other ''Ave'']] of which JwoGi is the common translation. Btw, I finally brought the Methodists around to Latin by showing them how much better the English fit [[Ave Verum, Op. 2, No. 1 (Edward Elgar)|Elgar's setting]] than the Latin, and then later persuading them that, visa-versa, they didnt really want to sing "Jesu, Worduv, God incarnate" in the Mozart. Iirc, Elgar composed to a different Latin hymn originally, publishing it as Avc later. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yes, clearly my mind wasn't properly in gear when I replied. It is of course Ave Verum Corpus, rather than Ave Maria. I've actually never sung it to the English works, whether Mozart, Elgar or Byrd, so didn't immediately recognise the connection. Interesting about the Elgar being set to different text originally.<br />
I can't open the file under 7 motetten, but the music looks the same as the Ornes version on CPDL. I guess it's probably worth putting it up with English words too. James Gibb<br />
:Nice, a blue link then! Now we just have to [[Talk:Ave verum I (Charles Gounod)|sort out the targent page name]]... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Fuerunt mihi lacrimae (Alfonso Ferrabosco II)|Fuerunt mihi lacrymae]] ==<br />
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Richard, you are quite right to suggest E minor rather than G for the transposed key. Rather too many D sharps for me to contradict you convincingly. I've added the actual allocation of the parts for the SATB version, which seems to chime with the Fowler TTBB allocation, though I've moved one low B in the S up an octave for convenience.<br />
I assume it's your addition of F minor to the Fowler edition, but I think it should be up a minor 2nd, not a minor third, unless you are referring to an edition I have no seen.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 16:06, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
:I'm just guessing that d is a plausible original key, the minor third being a popular transposition for editors of English music. If you based yours on the Fowler, then that would be _down_ a minor second! Maybe better not to speculate; I'd better try to remember take a look next time I'm at the library, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:50, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== 2 cents ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your comments on my talk page. I had decided not to continue replying to the gentleman of very set opinion. Regards, Paul Marchesano [[User:Marchesa|Marchesa]] 20:56, 29 April 2011 (CDT)<br />
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==[[Ewig dein WoO 161 (Ludwig van Beethoven)| "Ewig Dein"]] - Voicing ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for your revision. I'm pretty new on this pages. But in case you decide to perform the canon with mixed choir (for example SST), the voicing isn't equal any more. Is this a problem? [[User:B.peterson|bp]] 08:16, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
:Not for me personally ;-) (A purist within earshot might take issue with the resulting 64 inversions.) <br />
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:But the voicing template doesn't need to foresee every possible performance option: for a cappella works we often list AATBB in the General info. section and let editors add Category:SSATB in their Edition notes, and I see that [[Say, wanton, will you love me? (Thomas Weelkes)]] might be treated this way. Welcome to CPDL, and thanks for your editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:30, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== tidying up duplicate page ==<br />
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"(Deletion log); 19:46 . . Richard Mix (Talk | contribs) deleted "Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen" (Superfluous page: duplicates Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen (Friedrich Silcher))"<br />
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Thank you Richard, this was my first submission to CPDL, now I know that when you edit the composer's page first, you get the desired ''Title (Composer)'' suggested. Regards -- [[User:KlausFoehl|KlausFoehl]] 17:29, 16 July 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glen O'Brien) ==<br />
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Thank you Richard for an appropriate page for the arrangement. My name is actually spelt Glenn O'Brien.[[User:Glennobrien|Glennobrien]] 09:42, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
:You're welcome, and very sorry about that! I noticed you already fixed a couple of things, and I've just moved the page to [[Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glenn O'Brien)]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:45, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Magnificat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for the improvements to the page; it makes more sense indeed to have the Latin text come first. I'll see if I can improve it a bit more, putting the remaining translations in two columns. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 09:30, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Thanks for your sharp eyes on the Greek, too; I'll ask another question on [[Talk:Magnificat]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:42, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Carols for Choirs ==<br />
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Hi Richard<br />
I am in the process of spreading sortable tables through the ''…for Choirs'' pages, and came across your suggestion to merge the Carols for Choirs pages ([[Carols for Choirs 1]], 1 Sept, 2011).<br />
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Is [[Carols for Choirs|this]] the sort of thing you had in mind?. Would it make sense to have any discussion about this [[Talk:Carols for Choirs|here]]?<br />
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[[User:Peter Gibson|Peter Gibson]] 07:57, 7 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the note! [[Talk:Carols for Choirs]] indeed makes sense. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:17, 8 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Musica Divina transcriptions ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for the additional information you are adding to the Musica Divina editions I've been transcribing. I would do it myself, if I knew which categories existed!<br />
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I've also noticed that you've added an original pitch and note length version of Lassus's Dextera Domini. As a couple of people have asked that I upload "unaltered" versions as well, my intention is to go back through the stuff I've already uploaded and do just that. (It's relatively easy, since I do the transcription into original clefs and note lengths to minimise transcription mistakes, and only then make any adjustments) I'm certainly not going to duplicate work that you've already done; this is just to let you know that providing originals (with modern clefs) is high up on my to-do list.<br />
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Your email address on your CPDL page appears not to work, by the way, but perhaps I interpreted it too literally.<br />
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:I was just about to write you congratulations and also see if we can better divide up Lassus: I already have on hand a lot of the offertory motets for 4 vv: Benedic anima; Benedicam Dom.; Benedictus es...doce; Confitebor tibi; Dextera Dom.; Dom. convertere; Dom. in auxilium; Dom vivifica me; Exaltabo te; Expectans; Gressus meos; Illumina oculos; Immittet angelus; Improperium; In te speravi; Intende voci; Jubilate Deo; Lauda anima mea; Meditabor, Perfice gressus; Populum humilium; Precatus es; Scapulis suis; Sperunt in te. What a drag that we're using incompatible programs, otherwise we'd have really powerful proofreading tools!<br />
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:Hotmail is what I hope the non-bots will guess, btw. ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Thanks. I'll do a skim through the Lassus that is available on the Musica Divina motets and let you know which ones aren't on your list, or otherwise available on CPDL. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 08:52, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Of the 20 Lassus motets that are in Musica Divina Vol II, the following don't currently appear in CPDL:<br />
:Benedicite Gentes<br />
:Domine in auxilium meum respice<br />
:Factus est Dominus firmamentum<br />
:In te speravi Domine<br />
:Joannes est nomen eius<br />
:Sperent in te omnes<br />
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I think these are all 4-part, but I haven't checked individually. There may be other motet-like things appearing in the other volumes, but I'll check that later. Given that you've already done the 4th and the 6th on the list, and assuming that you have another source anyway, I suggest that I pick the remaining 4, unless you have already started on any of them, Richard.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:12, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Didn't notice that you had included Domine in Auxilium on your list, so I've now uploaded copies of Benedicite Gentes, Factus est Dominus firmamentum and Joannes est nomen eius. I've also uploaded a 4-part version of Eripe me, since the version currently on CPDL is a 3-part one. All at original pitch and note value secundum Proske, although I've also uploaded a transposed version of Eripe me, since it goes so low that only proper basses can get there with any confidence!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:11, 14 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Incomplete Editions ==<br />
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LOL Richard, it seems we were having similar thoughts, but posted in different places; only after opening a discussion at [[Template talk:IncompleteEdition]] I saw that you had also done it at [[Category talk:Incomplete editions]]. Please check there too! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 19:34, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Done, and point about thin skins taken, though inapplicable to latest new contributor, I trust. Ciao! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:35, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
::Hi, thanks for your comments on the template talk page. I'm still thinking about the various possibilities and will reply you soon. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:47, 21 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Veni sponsa Christi ==<br />
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Good point, Richard. I actually read it as bride, but without thinking of the inappropriate connotations! Incidentally, I've noticed that some of the additions you are making in the form of "Common of..." are coming up red, presumably because the appropriate category page has yet to be created. At the moment, that's rather beyond my job group, though I hope to improve!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 12:14, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
:You're [[Veni Sponsa Christi (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)|not the first]], nor was [[Veni, Sponsa Christi (Peter Philips)|Mick the last]]! I should have remembered the text via Couperin's Motets de Ss Anne & Suzanne. <br />
:Even now the redlinks can be used to see what other pieces are gathered but they should of course be turned blue eventually to standardize {{CiteCat|Common of Virgins}} (correct, according to Palmer/Burgess) vs. {{CiteCat|Common of a Virgin}} (top of my head) and also to be gathered as subcategories of {{CiteCat|Common of Saints}}. Carlos & Chuck were [[Category talk:Sacred music by season|very helpful with Sacred music by season]] and once I refresh my memory I'll have a go at the coding; in the meantime I remain in amazed admiration of your industry in making beautiful editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:44, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Sheppard's [[In manus tuas (John Sheppard)|In manus tuas]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for making the titles uniform. I was thinking that perhaps we could rename all three of them to the usual ''In manus tuas I'', ''II'' and ''III'', what do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 08:32, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Yes, that would be more in line with prevailing practice and I considered it; on the other hand, it suggests that the non-parenthetical roman numeral is part of the original title, or at least a generally accepted numbering. I don't know if that is in fact the case... Are you aware of any previous discussions towards a cpdl style manual? At present we have:<br />
*'''title ''a'' N (composer)''' where it is possible to disambiguate by number of voices<br />
*'''title (composer) (voci (im-)pari)''' where there are mixed- and 'equal-' (better unmixed?) voice versions<br />
*'''Magnificat N toni (composer) ((im-)pari)''' for alternatim settings<br />
:All the above convey a lot of information to browsers of categories and have some historical precedent as well. Then we have:<br />
*'''Agnus Dei III (anonymous)''' which might mean "...dona nobis pacem", or the third such title in order of the Trent codices, or maybe the second, with another ms. source having already claimed I or II, or even the full title given by a composer (as in Ann Callaway's [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/scores/callawayagnus.pdf ''Agnus dei I''], listed as ''Agnus Dei 1'' in the [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/Choral.html Arsis Press catalogue]). (2nd setting) is a bit anglophone-centric, but I do at least like the parentheses. <br />
:Thanks for raising this issue! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 17:01, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Richard, when I started editing on CPDL the current standards were pretty much established already, but I guess some older discussion can be found on this subject if one searches in the [[CW:BB]] or in the forums. The practice has been to add II (III etc.) to the title when a different setting of an otherwise homonym work is added. Regarding the use of parentheses to isolate the numbering, as in ''Agnus Dei (III)'', I believe it's a matter of personal taste. I particularly would never confuse ''Agnus Dei III'' with its third repetition :) I also prefer Roman numerals to Arabic ones. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 01:13, 12 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Funerary works ==<br />
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Hi Richard, Jonathan has suggested to create a category under this title, but I confess that I'm not knowledgeable enough on this subject to help him. Your opinion would be appreciated on my talk page. Thanks, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 06:05, 5 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Subgenre ==<br />
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I see that you introduced a new genre entry without any problem; way to go! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:46, 8 December 2012 (CST)<br />
:I was given very helpful hints! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:54, 9 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Lumen ad revelationem ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for correcting the category on this. I must say I was at something of a loss to think of how one would use a bit of the Nunc dimittis liturgically.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks also for the corrections you made to [[Dominica in Palmis (Emerico Lobo de Mesquita)|Dominica in Palmis]]! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Your edition of Victimae paschali laudes by Orlando di Lasso ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I'm working on this piece and I would like to check with you the last note of bass on bar 59 (G, syllable "Ma"). The Sämtliche Werke (Neue Reihe) edition published by Bärenreiter appears to have an F instead. Could you please confirm that the G is OK? Thank you. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 18:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I can't remember if it was an editorial choice or in whatever source I used then; the F seems implausible though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I'll use the G then. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 05:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== LinkText alternative text for link display ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I saw your query on [[Template talk:LinkText]] and have added a fix for that (just add new field "alt=Psalm 147 (vulgata)" to get "Psalm 147 (vulgata)" displayed as the link. I haven't documented it yet or expanded its functionality for more than one link yet, but you raised a good point that was easy to fix! &nbsp; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 14:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Very neat, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== S S Wesley Magnificat in E ==<br />
Hi, Richard.<br />
I agree that FF is more likely than EE in the Alto, bar 5, since ATB are otherwise in unison (or octaves). I've changed my edition accordingly. It would be good to get hold of an original source, but I can't find one on the web at all. Until then, at least my edition is usable, which the John Henry Fowler one wasn't!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 13:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Purcell anthems ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your useful additions to the Purcell anthems I've been uploading recently. Much appreciated. You may be able to help with a piece of notation that occasionally appears in the source document. This is :S:. My guess is that it is a form of repeat mark, but I have failed to find any confirmation of this, either on the internet, or in a couple of musical dictionaries that I've looked at.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 12:44, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I'll look later if there's a facsim. link; John Gosling uses something a bit like that for a trill. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:54, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, [http://imslp.org/wiki/Harmonia_Sacra_(Purcell,_Henry) pp36-7] is indeed no ornament but a ''segno.'' If two minim rests are understood it could work as a ''petit reprise''. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 08:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, thanks for that useful link. You'll notice from my most recent upload that I've added the Z number. When I get time, I'll go through the Purcell page and add the Z numbers to the other editions. Incidentally, the one I have just uploaded is the last one in the facsimile I was working from, so there will now be a hiatus, as far as Purcell is concerned!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasonal music ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I've just created [[ChoralWiki:Seasonal music]] in order to simplify your weekly updates. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 15:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think I can remember where to go in the future, and that's editable by non-admins who might want to take over, probably a good thing. Since it's less intuitive how to edit the Main page, should there be a pointer on Talk:? There's a little more on [[User talk:CHGiffen#Main page]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 10:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard, what did you have in mind when you proposed to automate this page? Should it be updated on a monthly basis, or is it preferable on a weekly basis? In that case, which day of the week would be best for the updates? If you already have an idea of what should be displayed on each month (or week), please post it on [[ChoralWiki talk:Seasonal music]] and I'll take care of the rest. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deus in adjutorium/Domine ad adjuvandum ==<br />
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Richard, I think you may not have fully appreciated to muddle I was trying to sort out! The ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' page was created by me in my first attempt to tidy up the text pages. That was before I related it properly to the ''Deus in adjutorium'' page, which makes it clear that the source text is the same. Some versions of ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' appeared on both text pages, some on neither. As a first step, putting everything on the same page seemed sensible. (This is of course about the Vespers versicle; there is also a separate page for the introit which draws on the same text.)<br />
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I think it's at least arguable that two separate text pages might be better, though there would need to be clear cross links, as with ''Tantum ergo'' and ''Pange lingua''. So your views on how best to do this, given your detailed understanding of the minutiae of Roman Catholic liturgy, would be welcome.<br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 17:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm often in [[Tota pulchra es|a muddle]] myself ;-) I think you did well to make a single page and regard them as the same text, and I imagine "Domine ad" settings would normally be preceded by an intoned "Deus in". I would urge though that non-standard versions be left on the work pages: One should be able learn that Gastoldi has some weird verse by looking [[Domine ad adiuvandum (Giovanni Gastoldi)|at this page]], and later someone can figure out what's up. [[Domine ad adjuvandum me (Orlando di Lasso)|Lasso's Offertory]] uses the Gradual's non-vulgate translation of Ps. 40 (If you want to really set your head spinning look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Psalters WP's Latin psalters article]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== cat vs vcat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, just a quick reminder: when linking to a voicing category as [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ave_Maria_(Charles_Gounod)&diff=next&oldid=497976 you did here], please remember to use {{tl|vcat}} instead of {{tl|cat}}. Otherwise the work may not be locatable by the Multi-Category Search when that specific voicing is searched for. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Nunc dimittis ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Could you explain what it is you were doing with the [[Nunc dimittis]] page? As near as I can tell, if you were trying to collect together settings that have been paired with a Magnificat (for Choral Evensong use in the Anglican tradition) and separate out all the others, then from what I can tell, the work is incomplete. On the other hand, an isolate ''Nunc dimittis'' (or ''Magnificat'') could just as well be intended as a part of an "Evening Service"&nbsp;&ndash; as my own setting is (and now appears orphaned along with a couple of other settings below the "Evening Service" list, and the same goes for the Mundy setting which was evidently intended for Anglican use. Any clarification (and cleanup) would be appreciated. Thanks! &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure; besides the self explanatory part, the 3 orphans are: *[[Nunc dimittis (Charles H. Giffen)]], [[Nunc Dimittis Canonico Johannes (Harrison Hackett)]], and [[Nunc Dimittis (William Mundy)]]. I didn't have enough information handy to decide to which they belonged, but didn't think to add a cleanup tag. Does the Mundy then have an accompanying Mag.? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't know if the Mundy has a matching, but I'd be surprised if it didn't. What about the Tim Risher, which has no matching Mag listed (as far as I can tell)? This aside, I wonder why the category {{CiteCat|Evening Canticles}} already does (or should do) the classification you're seeking. Are you planning to do the same thing to the [[Magnificat]] page? &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::(I did find the Mundy.) As I recall, I was interested in Latin settings at the time, and winnowing out "In English, as Part of an Evening Service" seemed a good idea. If you have thoughts on organizing the page, let's move to [[Talk:Nunc dimittis]], though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:34, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Pange Lingua ==<br />
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Thanks for your note, Richard.<br />
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No, there is no intention of recombining the Tantum ergo and Pange lingua pages. You may recall that there was a discussion about this a year or more back and the consensus was that a split would be appropriate, given the large number of settings and the different liturgical uses - you will know much more about the latter than I do!<br />
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There was an earlier discussion, which again you may recall, about whether the list of works on the text pages should be created automatically, (which is efficient, but cannot include information useful to the searcher, like voicing, or what parts of the text are used in a particular edition) or manually. The disadvantage of the manual list is that editors may neglect to add the relevant details to the text page.<br />
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Carlos has come up with a neat solution, which lists those editions which refer to the text page but do not appear in the manual list. There are two reasons for items being on that list; the obvious one, that the editor has neglected to add it, and a subtler one, that the name of the works page has been altered in some way, without all the relevant links being checked and altered accordingly.<br />
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What I have been doing when I come upon a page with a "missing items" list is to make the necessary manual additions, and adjustments to works page links that have been changed. <br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 18:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== I heard a voice from heaven - Tomkins ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that. I think what must have happened is that I've inadvertently deleted the Tomkins files while thinking they were the Goss or Morley settings, since I hadn't included the composer name in the file name. I've taken the opportunity to do a bit of tidying - the version I had originally done now looks rather cramped - but it should all be there now.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ich hebe meine Augen SWV 31 ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting the duplicated title. I'm not sure where it came from and deleting it caused some difficulty. However, now sorted, so I've removed the score error message. <br />
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On musica ficta, yes, you have interpreted it correctly. The only possible confusion might be that, in the source, the figured bass is also written above the stave and that has accidentals in it too. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 20:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I suppose so! Have you seen those Italian prints where the 'accidental' is on the staff but, when one peers closely enough, centered on the line or space a third above the bass note? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, in case you are not 'watching' my talk page, I've replied to your latest query about ''Ad te levavi animam meam'' there, to keep the thread together. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Da pacem, Domine]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I noticed that you moved this text page to the comma-less form. There are around 4-5 work titles that use the version with comma; should we standardize them by removing the comma? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't think so, unless a NoTi(tle) template for text pages is being contemplated. Work titles can follow the composer's (or even editor's) usage, while uniform text page title style (borrowed from Solsmes indexing style) is just to take some guesswork out of adding LinkText|unpunctuated title. For that reason I'd [[Category_talk:Voicing#Renaming Categories|still like to do something]] about the red {{CC|Solo soprano}} and the ridiculously cumbersome to remember [[Category talk:Hymn meters#Simpler meter names|hymn meter names.]] [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 21:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
::OK! I sometimes add commas to titles if I think it'll clarify their meaning, but I agree that for Latin this is not so common or even necessary. Regarding hymn meter names, this is a somewhat cryptic subject to me, sorry for not being able to contribute to the discussion. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Seid Barmherzig (Heinrich Schütz) ==<br />
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Unfortunately not, Richard. That was my initial thought, but bars 198-210 are different, although the notes are often the same. So I've rolled back your edit.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 21:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== O sacramentum pietatis ==<br />
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Hi Richard! After creating a text page for ''[[O sacramentum pietatis]]'', I noticed that [[O sacramentum pietatis H 260 (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)|the text used by Charpentier]] is completely different. Maybe you (or James?) could help identify the source of this second text? And how can we properly differentiate both titles, in your opinion? Thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 23:25, 29 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tota pulchra es (Gregorian chant) ==<br />
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Hi, Richard. You removed the 'Broken link' tag of [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) this edition/page]. It's a link to the Abel DiMarco's site, where we find two links: one for Palestrina and the other for Lassus. Where do we have to go to find the score? Please help the users. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Claude; sorry, I don't quite understand: I can click the link to Abel's site, click on T, get:<br />
*Tantum ergo. Partitura<br />
*Te lucis ante terminum. Partitura<br />
*Tollite portas. Partitura<br />
*Tota pulchra es. Partitura<br />
*Tu es qui venturus es?. Partitura<br />
*Turba multa. Partitura<br />
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:then (on the third try) clicking on Tota pulcra I get the advertised file with the Gregorian chant. Is there perhaps a different page that has ambiguous links? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:36, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, Richard. It's weird, when I click on T, get:<br />
::• Tota Pulchra es. Lassus (2 v. i.) Partitura <br />
::• Tota pulchra es. Palestrina (Coro 5 v.m.) Partitura <br />
::the page is that one: http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/t/<br />
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::BTW, I don't see how I could merge pages according to your suggestion [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Agnus_Dei_a_3_(Francesco_Lorenzo_Luciani) here] because I don't find the same underlay text, nor the same music. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::Weird indeed! There seem to be separate indexes for chant and polyphony. From your page I was finally able to click my way to http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/cantoral-gregoriano/#T The trick is to use the lower of the two indexes. Shall I revise the link on http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) ? <br />
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:::I don't remember what I was thinking about on the Luciani page, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hello guys! I, just like Richard, was only looking at the lower index that pointed to the correct work on that same page. Only now I noticed the other indexes above that lead to another page with polyphonic works. I've tweaked the {{CT|Website}} template so that now it adds the index automatically, based on work title (#T in this case). How do you like it? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 03:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That's great, thanks. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Thank you ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your (belated) welcome. And thanks for your kind words about my edition. [[User:D-fished|D-fished]] ([[User talk:D-fished|talk]]) 20:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Vater Abraham ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that I don't know the range of a concert flute! I've altered the files so that the second flute is an alto flute, duly transposing the notes and changing the description accordingly.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:37, 10 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== nonbot seeking dothint ==<br />
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hey richard! giovanni.cervo or senza punto at the thermodynamix postmastery? <br><br />
k regards <br><br />
Tulipo Petressian 19:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I don't own a dictionary with the word "dothint", sorry! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 07:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: sorry too, but the dothint wasn't even in the question. which was: please give me a clue about whether or not there would be a dot between name and surname in your mail address! Tulipo Petressian 08:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::Ah, I'm a little slow today; the spell-checker even suggested dot hint. Only one dot, between [appropriate substitution]mail and com.[[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 11:00, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::: phew, confusing botphobian riddling! allow me some slow thinking as well: I had no doubts about the dot between mail and com, so you are telling me there is no other dot, only a nondot between john and doe?! Tulipo Petressian 18:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Richard_Mix&diff=593105User talk:Richard Mix2016-01-26T08:49:42Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* nonbot seeking dothint */</p>
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<div>==Problems submitting a score==<br />
Hi, I'm struggling to learn the ropes here. After a few abortive attempts at "Add scores to CPDL" I found one file under my contributions page: [[Image:Gaudeamus Battistini.pdf]] and have made an article page for it. <small>—The preceding [[ChoralWiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Richard Mix|Sparafucil]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richard Mix|contribs]]) on 18:16, 15 January 2008.</small><br />
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:Hi there. Welcome to CPDL and thank you for your edition! I'm sorry to hear that you're having difficulties. I've just created the [[Giacomo Battistini|composer page]] and added the works entry to it. Please supply the following information and I will format the score page correctly:<br />
:*Your real name<br />
:*The copyright that you are assigning to your edition (the preference is the [[ChoralWiki:CPDL|CPDL license]] but you may apply any license to your edition; it would be a good idea to add this information to the bottom of the first page of the PDF too)<br />
:*A MIDI file would be very useful if you are able to create one (not required but useful)<br />
:When you come to your next score submission, please try to follow the score submission guide which I think is very clear. If you're having problems, please leave a message on [[User talk:Bobnotts|my talk page]], noting the part that you're having difficulties with and I will endevour to help. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:58, 15 January 2008 (PST)<br />
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== Beatus vir ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I had to revert your edits made to [[Beatus vir, RV 597 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 597]], because you were inadvertently removing the original info. You probably wanted to edit [[Beatus vir, RV 598 (Antonio Vivaldi)|Beatus vir, RV 598]], right? What probably happened was that you clicked on page RV 598 and was "redirected" to RV 597 without noticing it. When we move a page to another name, the original name automatically receives a "redirect" code to the new page. If that's what happened, tell me and I will copy to RV 598 the edits you made, so that you don't lose what you had already done. Regards -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 21:40, 16 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:Yes, that was it! I thought there was something wrong; thanks for putting it right. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 18:38, 17 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::Hi Richard, here I am again. I'm not sure I understood what you did. The PDFs you uploaded to RV 598 specify on their first pages that they are from RV 597! Is that correct? From what I saw, ''Beatus vir'' RV 597 is in C major, and RV 598 is in B flat major. I think it would be a good idea also to check with the admins if CPDL allows pages hosting only the orchestra parts, without their corresponding vocal parts. -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 14:52, 19 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::Yes, the two pages now need to be swapped. How did you find the uploaded files? And where should I try contacting the admins (one is Rafael, I assume? I would think it only a matter of time before someone adds choral parts, but... ) tia, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 07:28, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::::Hi Richard, the two pages contents are now swapped, remember your scores are now in RV 597! I found your uploaded files looking at the upload log available at [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] in the left menu. Try asking your questions to admins here: [[ChoralWiki:Sheet music requests and questions]]. Regards! -- [[User:Carlos|Carlos]]<font size="-1"><sup>[[User talk:Carlos|Talk]]</sup></font> 11:39, 21 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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== Redirects ==<br />
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Hi Richard!<br />
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I'd like to know if there is a reason why you created a redirect to [[When Israel came out of Egypt (William Byrd)|this work]]. If you type these exact words in the search box, the correct page will be the first (and only) to appear, so this redirect seems unnecessary. The same applies to the various Hanacpachap redirects you created. The variant spellings are all inside the works page, so someone searching for any of them should be able to find that work without the need of the redirects. <br />
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Redirects are usefull only in some specific situations, as when we use template <nowiki>{{ChoralWiki}}</nowiki> on Wikipedia to redirect to a page on CPDL and the Wikipedia article title is different from the title at CPDL. Regards —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 16:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Carlos,<br />
:I was only trying to turn a red link at [[Psalm 114]] blue, which is also easily accomplished by adding a first name. Is there a downside to having redirects? The only way I could find [[Hanacpachap]] before was to go to [[Anonymous#H|anonymous and look under H]], which took quite a few extra seconds;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard,<br />
::In fact redirects do increase a little bit the database's workload, since they need to be indexed too; we also have more work when we need to move the target page to a different title; but they are nonetheless useful in many situations. It's strange you couldn't find ''Hanacpachap'': if you try a search with this name the works page shows up. This is what we've been doing when possible: to add composer aliases and composition variant titles in the page text so they can be found easily via the Search tool. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, the only difference between "go" and "search" is the option to create a new page. I still have a WP habit of creating red links in preview mode to see what's there, but will try not to carry it over to CPDL (if you click on the one above you wont get any seach results at all). Shouldn't I have come across mention of this prefered strategy before somewhere? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Text sources ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for adding text sources to score pages. It really helps to make ChoralWiki a truly interlinked website. I had one doubt, though, [[Confitebor tibi Domine (Giovanni Gabrieli)]]. It looks more like parts of [[Psalm 9]] vv.2-3 & 16 to me (though I can't identify the entire text). Do you agree? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Dear Bob, <br>Thanks for the catch! The Vulgate lumps Ps's 9 & 10, so: 9:2-3, (I think you're right about 16), 12, 10:37a. Btw, re JSB I think you meant that it is preferable to have external links from a cpdl page as [[Cantata BWV 131 - Aus der Tiefe ruf ich Herr zu dir (Johann Sebastian Bach)|here]] (I'm looking into the title of bwv 131, often given as Aus der Tiefen). With all the material at bachcantatas.com it might be nice to have a BachCantata template. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about Sibelius 4 exporting to previous versions formats ==<br />
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Hi Richard I saw your question in John Patterson's talk page...Yes Sibelius 4(5 and now 6) gives you the possibility to save files so they can be opened with previous versions of Sibelius...that option is under the menu File and then Export (not "save as")...I hope it was helpful...[[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 02:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, it's only in Sib3 that it's under "save as SIb2 file". Thanks, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bach Cantatas ==<br />
:''(The other half of the conversation is [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Saniakob&oldid=214153 here])''<br />
Hi Richard, you are right...the reasons why I did that is because of organizational purposes...The page is still "under construction"...there are many things to fix...So for the moment I am ordering editions...and creating sections (like Cantatas, Chorales so on) to put things in order...once all editions are ordered I will work on each section....So far, the cantatas which have a page including all pieces are those which are complete...Cantatas which have only some pieces in CPDL are given as titles with the corresponding editions listed below...I pretend to change that in the future, but for now that is the criterion...Thanks for the suggestion and comment!![[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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My apologies Richard, now I see, your edition is of Movement 1 and I listed it in Movement 7 page...my mistake... There is a problem on making a page for the whole cantata when there are available only 2 Movements.If you see CPDL requires that the number of editions available must be mentioned...the cantatas which are complete and have editions of independent movements mention this "full score and independent movements" (or similar text). It is impossible to mention which movements are included in each page; it is note possible to write "some movements available" or to mention each movement next to the Cantata title. For clarity, the movements available are listed under the Cantata tile...This criterion is used in all CPDL pages, or at least is what I have been told by Admins...CPDL manager also added some templates to be used for the Cantatas section and did not object how things were, so I assume things are correctly organized... Regarding, languages and other mistakes on the edition pages... I will correct that in a near future, I am checking page by page...and taking notes on what needs to be fixed....For the moment, all of my time goes on finding the corresponding BWV catalog number for each entry on the page and checking if they are missatributions, translations or other stuff, as well as sending each edition to its corresponding section within the page...Regarding your suggestion of opening another Bach project in CPDL...I can't answer that...I think an Admin will give you a proper reply...Thanks again - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 13:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The discussion you mention is about merging pieces which are the same piece but with different titles translated to other languages. I will ask you please to stop changing things at the page. If you were concerned with Bach page you could have adopted it before. I took it and CPDL admins know about it. I appreciate your concern but undoing my work doesn't help. Since CPDL was created Bach page is a mess...and things are much ordered now. Please respect my decisions about the page management, there is 1 volunteer per page and with Bach page it happens to be me...If you have a complain direct it to the admins...I wouldn't like to report you for interfering because I know you try to help, but this is not the right way. Please be patient, things can't be fixed in 2 days, actually, I am volunteering since one month ago and there is a lot to do and the time I could use to improve the page I am spending undoing your changes because you don't respect my position as volunteer with the page. - Thanks [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 20:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Never mind. I step out. I am no longer volunteering with this page. Feel free to take the position, it is available.<br />
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Here is my reply to your comment in [[User_talk:CHGiffen#Bach_Cantatas|Mr. Giffen's talk page]]....<p>"I stepped out. I am no longer volunteering. Offer the position of volunteering with Bach Page to Mr. Mix who thinks he can do a much better job than me...I wish he would have made something when no one was maintaining the page for years and not just now when someone else started doing the job. I worked for 10 years as manager and copyist of a music repository at a university and I thought I knew some stuff of the trade...but I guess I was wrong. Besides, you modified things in the page (adding the templates for the cantatas) and you didn't told me anything about my way of organizing things...just now when I have this discussion you tell me about CPDL rules and make me look like a fool when I try to defend my point of view with Mr. Mix. Finally, If I did not read wrong, the Adopt a composer program states clearly that there is 1 volunteer per page...so "collaborative work" as Mr. Mix call it doesn't apply for some things...like changing things at will... I understand collaborative work is teaching people how to make a submission to CPDL correctly (which I did) because the information given by the site is confusing....or translating pages to other languages to make CPDL more accessible to everyone (which I also did)... I know perfectly what collaborative work is. I am a professional with enough experience in my field and I won't work under this conditions. Perhaps I misunderstood what CPDL was about...if that's the case then I am to blame. Thank you."</p><br />
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Things are exactly as they were before I took Bach page...so you can start the work in the way you love most...Best Regards - [[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 17:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Failed contributions==<br />
Hi Richard. You tried to contribute editions of two Mendelssohn pieces to CPDL on 21st July but I can't locate any files for these editions. Could you point me in the right direction, please? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sure- on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090724002639&target=Richard+Mix my contributions page] I still see: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).sib and http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Andenken_(Mendelssohn).pdf on the page [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]], as well as two more files up at [[Im Wald. Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]]. Thanks, and hope I havnt unwittingly made anything harder. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry - my mistake. I found the page [[Im Walde, Op. 41, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] linked from the [[Mendelssohn]] page and when I didn't see your edition listed, I got confused! Nothing wrong with [[Andenken, Op. 100, No. 1 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] but [[Im Wald Op. 100, No. 4 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] was missing a catalogue number and wasn't linked to from the main [[Mendelssohn]] page. I've fixed both of those things now. Thanks --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Sacred feasts ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for improving the texts of those categories, I never imagined this subject could be so complex :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 18:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Salve Regina]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your work on this page. You'll see that I moved the external link you added to under the "external links" section. I feel that we need to draw the line somewhere, otherwise people would add any vaugely relevant links to the settings list and clutter it up. I hope that's ok with you. <br />
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Also, you asked: "should all voicings redirect as SATB does?" in an edit summary for the page. Firstly, please don't use edit summaries to ask question - they should be used to give a brief summary of the edit and nothing else. The best place to ask questions is on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3 forums]. To answer your question, though, there's no strict rule for redirects but generally I'd say that [[SATB]] is only a redirect because it's a voicing that's used so frequently. To add links to categories quickly (without categorising the page in the category), use the "CiteCat" template, like this: <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|SSATB}}</nowiki></tt>. Regards --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 15:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Text page links ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for all your help lately! Just thought I'd mention one thing: when you add a link to a text page from a score page, such as on [[Ave Maria, Op. 23, No. 2 (Felix Mendelssohn)]] and [[Laudate Dominum omnes gentes, III (Claudio Monteverdi)]], please try to remember to also update the text page to link back to the score page. That way, someone looking for a particular text can find all the settings of it on CW (in theory!) I've just updated the text pages for those score pages. I know it's easy to forget sometimes. Thanks again. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 12:16, 26 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Declare his honour - Henry Purcell ==<br />
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I hope I'm adding comments to the correct page, since it's not enirely obvious how one contacts people in Choral Wiki<br />
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With regard to my reformatting of the Fowler version of this, bar 75 should have read bar 74 (and the last note of bar 73), where the bass part seems to have been transposed down by a 6th. (This is fairly obvious when you play it back. It also corresponds with bar 247 of the Callon version of O sing unto the Lord). The same transposition seems to have occurred in the bass accompaniment in bar 76.<br />
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I have corrected these (and taken the liberty of removing your error message at the same time!) I've also uploaded new versions of the .pdf, .mid and .cap files.<br />
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I've found some oddities when uploading new versions of files. Although I uploaded a revised version of the .pdf file on 7th February, the file that was there when I opened it today appeared to be the original version. I have uploaded a new version and that seems now to be the version in Choral Wiki. However, the .cap file I uploaded at the same time seems not to have been uploaded, since it is still the old file which opens.<br />
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On the question of combining this with O sing unto the Lord, that is obviously a sensible move. However, from the point of view of practical use for singers, I don't think most choirs would make much use of the full version, so I would suggest there should still be a link on the Purcell main page for "Declare his honour", which redirects to "O sing unto the Lord"<br />
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:Welcome! A lot of useful discussion does happen on user talk pages; there are also the CPDL fora, which confusingly require a separate login even if you use the same name and password. If it's alright with you though, I'll copy the Purcell-specific discussion to [[Talk:O sing unto the Lord (Henry Purcell)]].<br />
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:Thanks for the corrections and clarifications! I'm not sure about the oddities yet, but will have another look, and add the error report to Fowler. <br />
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:I agree about the redirect in case anyone searches under "D". This is handled by turning subpage Declare His Honor (Henry Purcell) into a redirect. It isnt necessary to have the file in two places, as with the redundant Agnus Dei (Marc-Antoine Charpentier): here I think even a redirect to [[Messe de Minuit pour Noël (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)]] is unneeded. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gaudeamus omnes (Giacomo Battistini)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. [[User:Sparafucil]] once uploaded an edition of the work above, but the name in the score is yours! Was Sparafucil an old account you were using before registering as Richard Mix? Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I'd forgotten. Can you delete the account? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Better yet, I've merged the old account into the new one, to unify your contributions. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Motets ==<br />
Hi Richard, I've noticed you 'depopulated' the liturgical music cat in favour of 'motet' on one of my contributions. As you may have noticed, there is a discussion on the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4853 forums] about this issue, as yet without decisive outcome. In the case of Mondondone's "Deus in adiutorium", I disagree with your categorisation - it is an office versicle with a clear an unequivocal functional role, pretty much unimaginable in any other context. As for the stylistic issues, those remain to be debated, as you can see on the forums. Would you consider contributing to the discussion? [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 13:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you for the pointer! I'll try to sort it out what I think... I suppose though we're not in disagreement that category:Office versicles would ultimately be more easily searchable than "liturgical music"? In the meantime, we could make a [[Deus in ajutorium]] textpage (maybe just a redirect to a sub-section of [[Psalm 70]]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Psalms ==<br />
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Richard, not sure if I'm doing this the right way, since it doesn't seem immediately intuitive how to reply to comments from someone.<br />
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I suppose the psalm chants I've been adding are an anthology, in the sense that they are the ones we generally use in the choir that I belong to. The only reason that I've set them is Capella is that I got tired of illegible photocopies of words and music. Capella isn't brilliant at handling words if they are not set as lyrics under the notes, so I add the relevant text from a Word file and print the same page twice, once with the chant and once with the text. However, as I only do this when a new psalm comes to be sung, the set is not complete. <br />
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I'm not clear how (or where) I should put them if they were to be presented as an anthology. Would they still appear on the composer pages, but just with a different title?<br />
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On the small "c" for chant issue, I've been puzzled by why the link still appeared in red when I added a score, so that explains it. I haven't typed it in with an upper case C; that's provided by the dropdown list from "Add scores to CPDL". I'll correct by hand for the moment, but it might be useful if someone could alter the dropdown list eventually, to eliminate the problem automatically.<br />
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:Hi James, seems right enough to me. There is a confusing choice of venues around cpdl, and a lot gets done on usertalk pages like this. I raised the dropdown bug at the [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4935 operation & implementation] forum (these require a second login and password) and it may be fixed already. I also proposed hashing out psalm naming conventions on the [[Category talk:Anglican chants|category talk page]]; maybe we'll be joined by others. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Praeter rerum seriem ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I have to take exception with your designation of the [[Praeter rerum seriem (Anonymous)]] as being a Gregorian chant source rather than simply Anonymous. If you'll examint the setting, you'll see that it is a triple rhythm tune that is wholly inconsistent with being Gregorian chant, in spite of the text being a Marian sequence. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Charles! Maybe we differ on a definition of "Gregorian" rather than the particulars of the piece. Rhythmisized chant is squarely in that tradition, if I may so speak, and one may consider the long-short ''[[Of the Father's love begotten (Anonymous)|Divinum mysterium)]]'' to be the same piece as the unmeasured notation. <br />
:But I may just be confused about the 'original' ''Praeter rerum''. On a casual inspection, it looks like a Gregorian chant has been used as a tenor by Josquin, and that it differs in a few pitch details (second note, strain 2, and a few extra notes) from a chant book version, which can be adjusted to Josquin's rhythm. Does a different Gregorian melody exist? And did you have a mensural source for what the page calls "the Latin hymn"? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 05:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franz Schubert - Fünf Duette ==<br />
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Good morning Richard. Thank you for the cleaning of the Fünf Duette page. The problem i had with the newline character seems solved now. I can continue editing. [[User:BenZene|BenZene]] 08:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vidi aquam confusion ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I basically reverted your edits to [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]], since I think you didn't check the PDFs for the two recently posted scores. Each of these postings consists of THREE settings of Vidi aquam (so perhaps calling them I and II is a bit confusing). At any rate, (I) contains the three settings (all 3-part) from tr93 (pages 5v-6r, 6v-7r, 7v-8r), and (II) contains three settings (only the middle one is 4-part) from tr88 (pp 223v-224r) and tr89 (pp 228v-229r and 229v-230r). Only the first tr89 (pp 228v-229r) is 4-part.<br />
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I checked the pdf for [[Vidi aquam II (Anonymous)]] but not looking at [[Vidi aquam I (Anonymous)]] misconstrued it as a separate work page for what I guess is Vidi aquam 5 [or maybe IIb?] (Anonymous). Thanks for the catch, and I hope you add the foliation info! Do you agree that there's something a bit wrong with the page names and that perhaps a merge if not a split is in order? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Given the way in which the 6 settings of Vidi aquam have been published here in two groups of three each, I'm tempted to suggest that they be merged onto one page, perhaps titled something like<br />
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Makes perfect sense to me. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 08:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Also for me. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 14:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== La cieca (Giovanni Ghizzolo) ==<br />
Richard, I'm not quite sure the canges you applied to the voicing cat on [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/La_cieca_%28Giovanni_Ghizzolo%29 this] page are for the better. Any user interested in this sort of repertoire is unlikely to search for "Amarilli" as a solo voice type, is he? Besides, to the best of my knowledge, this change would make it one of the few (if any) pages where voicing information is mixed with/replaced by content. I'm not sure that labelling, say, Bach's Matthew Passion as containing "Christ" instead of "bass solo" would be the way to move forward. Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 15:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, The names of course are "piped" and link to Category:Solo Soprano and Category:Solo Tenor. I found the former ST choir designation more confusing myself; now I hope it is clear that the chorus is SSB and the other movements are dialogues for male & female soloists, but maybe you devise something better. Btw, thanks for the [[Mnogaya lyeta (Traditional)]] lyrics! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Voicing for [[I will worship towards thy holy temple (Arthur Sullivan)]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I rolled back your voicing change. I'm not sure about the separate choir specification, but, if you look at mm 104-126, you'll see that at least 7 different voices are required (albeit at most 6 sing at any one time). Because of the way the score is laid out, I'm inclined to leave the two-choir voicing (rather than 7vv SSATTBB). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see what you mean. The layout implies choir two SA & TB each in unison. I dont suppose we can have 6|SATB.SATB, which would be my prefered version ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 03:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Say, Watchman, What of the Night? (Arthur Sullivan)|Say, watchman, what of the night?]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your comments, Richard. I think it almost certain that Sullivan, as an accomplished organist, would have specified organ accompaniment for a sacred work, so I must have had my mind not properly in gear to specify something else when entering the details! I've corrected the missing note in the accompaniment of bar 19 and also spotted a couple of misdirected tails, which didn't get automatically changed when I transposed it up a tone in Capella. I've reloaded updated versions of the files.<br />
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The small notes in the accompaniment are not intended to indicate rehearsal only. It's just that, by making the accompaniment small, I can get three systems on an A4 page in Capella in a readable form. (You can probably guess from this that I am a singer, rather than a keyboard player!) If the original indicates "for rehearsal only", I generally make this explicit.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah well, organists are expected to do the superhuman anyway: in this case to transpose a half step while the choir has the convenience of reading in one flat. This must have been before transposer knobs. I must say your version in G raises the bar for the minor mode passages! ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 22:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The way is long and dreary ==<br />
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(A title that makes you frantic to sing the piece!) When I was playing this back before submitting it this morning, parts of it sounded vaguely familiar. In fact, the Douglas Walczak Agnus Dei is an extract from this longer anthem, removing the Adelaide Procter bits. So I think they should somehow be linked, but have no idea how to do it myself. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 11:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I was going to wade in here and suggest putting a "See also:" (or "Also see:") item at the end of the "Music files" section for each work, with links between the two works pages (and even do it myself as an example as to illustrate how to do this in the future) &ndash; until I realized that we don't have the Walczak ''Agnus Dei'' at {{CW}}! So, instead, I would suggest simply adding a note in the "Description:" section in the Sullivan about the Walczak piece. There are several examples of the "See also:" usage &ndash; one at [[Advent Anthem (The Advent moon shines cold and clear) (Douglas Brooks-Davies)|''Advent Anthem'']] by [[Douglas Brooks-Davies]] interlinking with my own [[This Advent moon (Charles H. Giffen)|''This Advent moon'']] (which is why I know of the technique). &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 12:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: Great idea Chuck, but wouldnt it logically go under '''General information;'''? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hassler Ave maris stella ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I really don't understand your instance on duplicating information in the Edition notes for both editions that is descriptive of the work and not of the editions. I already moved the fact that the chant (and cantus firmus) is mixolydian to the Description section. Moreover, there is no musical difference between the editions: indeed, the polyphony is the same for all three even verses. It just so happens that the Kelecom edition reproduces the music three times, once for each odd verse chant and once for each verse polyphony, while the earlier edition uses the more economical route of providing the chant and polyphony once, with the verses underlaid threefold. As for the question whether the music is transposed (or not) and because both editions share the same fate on this issue, my preference in such situation at CPDL is to leave the matter of announcing "F miixolydian" in the two editions out, until such time as we have sure knowledge of any transposition from the original work (Hassler was not above transposed modes in other works). Elsewhere, when there are more than one edition transposed to the same key (along with the original or other transpositions), we usually group editions with the same transposition under a single heading, such as with [[If ye love me (Thomas Tallis)]]. With this in mind, I hope you will reconsider what amounts to a restoration of your previous edits as an addition after my own edit (which was an attempt to avoid redundancy). I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Chuck! I'm not sure ''If ye love me'' is typical in this regard, though it is a clever solution. If there is no 'redundancy', it's not even clear the editions are at the same pitch, and we have to assume the general info has the correct original key. Thanks for prodding me, though: I'm beginning a long download of DdT to see what can be found there... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: Hi again Richard. Both editions are indeed "at the same pitch", 2 flats in the k.s., cantus firmus beginning on F, note values apparently halved from the original (pretty common). I do note that the Kelecom edition leaves off the 7th verse (chant, missed that previously). I'd be interested to learn what the DdT download turns up. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 01:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::...and the piece is in neither ''Cantiones Sacrae'' nor ''Sacri Concentus''. A search in Grove only gets hits for soAVE and bellAVEre, so I guess we're dealing with a contrafactum. Assuming something else turns up, do we replace the edition notes "in F mixolydian" with "original key" both times? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 01:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Palestrina Mags ==<br />
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Dear Richard,<br />
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Many thanks for your clarifications and alterations concerning the tricky question of Palestrina Magnificat settings - what you've done now is an immensurably better state of affairs than was in place before - many thanks indeed! Hopefully other people will latch on to the new system and either style their editions with the new clarification system or leave the editions in question open to clarification by contributors such as yourself. Unless I'm being thick, is it the case that there are multiple sections/chapters within the Magnificat octo tonum liber primus (Rome, 1591) publication (although bearing in mind the other Magnificats which were unpublished in 1591 and remain in manuscript form (although transcribed by haberl))? There was only this one publication, according to Grove, and I am unaware of any others. How is the 'book' system that you use set up? I am aware of the division of Haberl's volume into sections, but I can't remember how. Are you able to shed any light on this?<br />
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Re: Lassus Mags, if you're happy to send me facsimiles of Haberl, then I'll happily transcribe them! :-)<br />
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Also, on your own user page, you might want to update the number of scores you've contributed from 1 to the relevant number larger than 1. I wish this acted as a little counter and updated itself!<br />
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:I was just going by [http://imslp.org/wiki/XXXV_Magnificat_(Palestrina,_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da)], of which the first part is the 1591 "liber primus" (divided into odd and even), but I see that [http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Giovanni_Pierluigi_da_Palestrina] doesnt list the subsequent 'liber's! I'll try downloading the forward to see if they had title pages... <br />
:... Ouf, my poor Latin, but Haberl's own Book Two title page clears things up a little: ''Magnificat octotonum quaternis vocibus. (liber secundus.) auctore Petraloysio Praestino nunc primum ex codice cappelae juliae ad S. Petrum Romae in partitionem redigit et edidit Fr. Xav. Haberl.'' A first edition! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Avoiding overcounting your editions ==<br />
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Hi Richard. The "Whatlinkshere" template does indeed overcount editions, because it provides a list of pages with links of any kind (not just links from Sheet music pages generated by the Editor template). That is why I created the "<EditorName> editions" categories. Replacing <tt><nowiki>{{Whatlinkshere}}</nowiki></tt> oh your User page with <tt><nowiki>{{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}</nowiki></tt> will solve the problem. Be aware that this will undercount your editions if you have more than one edition listed on a given works page. But at least it provides a shorter list to check (if you suspect you have duplications, as I do). Best wishe. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 22:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm still a little confused- There must be something missing from the template syntax {{CiteCat|Richard Mix editions|Works with editions by this editor}}, since [[:Category:Richard Mix editions]] is a blue link... Got it now, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:: My bad... there should be a "|" after CiteCat, not a ":" ... sorry! I corrected the citation in my previous post above. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Missa quinque vocum (Mogens Pedersøn)]] ==<br />
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I think you were right in your edit summary, Richard, so I have returned the layout to a single edition incorporating all the assigned catalogue numbers in the edition notes as before. I came to this conclusion mainly because it is the same score link for all the movements. Feel free to revert. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 06:24, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OT post-Pentecost blunder ==<br />
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Hi Richard. You are entirely right - after I swapped Pentecost IX and X, I realized that you were problably right in putting X before IX for precisely the reason you gave in your edit summary. I hope you like the appearance of the wikitable format better, though. I'll make another pass through the Sundays after Pentecost to do a few cleanup and tidying chores, at least when I get a chance! Many thanks for taking on the organization of these liturgical categories. &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 04:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the tidying, and it's just as well what I've typed in a hurry so far gets double-checked! <br />
:I've always copied code for tables from any old place I stumble across an example, but is there an official help page somewhere? I just noticed that [[Piae Cantiones]] has a sortable list, which might be handy for the [[Ordinary Time]] table. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 10:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Verse anthem? ==<br />
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Hi Richard. In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hosanna_to_the_Son_of_David_%28Orlando_Gibbons%29&diff=prev&oldid=259680 this edit], you labelled [[Hosanna to the Son of David (Orlando Gibbons)]] as a verse anthem. I thought I would double check we're agreed on this, as according to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_anthem Wikipedia article] and my limited knowledge on the subject, this surely is not a verse anthem but a full anthem. Was your edit a mistake? I have changed it back, at least for the time being. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 19:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You're absolutely right! I think I might have had [[Behold, I bring you glad tidings (Orlando Gibbons)]] on my mind at the time... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jesu, word of God incarnate in The Anthem Book ==<br />
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Regarding your question as to whether this was a version of Gounod's Ave Maria, my mind wasn't properly in gear, because I tend to think of that as Bach-Gounod. The answer is that it definitely isn't that, though I don't know what the original words might have been. I'll get round to submitting it shortly and check whether it matches any of the other Gounod stuff already uploaded.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 23:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:No, [[Talk:The Anthem Book|I meant]] the [[Ave verum corpus|other ''Ave'']] of which JwoGi is the common translation. Btw, I finally brought the Methodists around to Latin by showing them how much better the English fit [[Ave Verum, Op. 2, No. 1 (Edward Elgar)|Elgar's setting]] than the Latin, and then later persuading them that, visa-versa, they didnt really want to sing "Jesu, Worduv, God incarnate" in the Mozart. Iirc, Elgar composed to a different Latin hymn originally, publishing it as Avc later. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 23:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yes, clearly my mind wasn't properly in gear when I replied. It is of course Ave Verum Corpus, rather than Ave Maria. I've actually never sung it to the English works, whether Mozart, Elgar or Byrd, so didn't immediately recognise the connection. Interesting about the Elgar being set to different text originally.<br />
I can't open the file under 7 motetten, but the music looks the same as the Ornes version on CPDL. I guess it's probably worth putting it up with English words too. James Gibb<br />
:Nice, a blue link then! Now we just have to [[Talk:Ave verum I (Charles Gounod)|sort out the targent page name]]... [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 21:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Fuerunt mihi lacrimae (Alfonso Ferrabosco II)|Fuerunt mihi lacrymae]] ==<br />
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Richard, you are quite right to suggest E minor rather than G for the transposed key. Rather too many D sharps for me to contradict you convincingly. I've added the actual allocation of the parts for the SATB version, which seems to chime with the Fowler TTBB allocation, though I've moved one low B in the S up an octave for convenience.<br />
I assume it's your addition of F minor to the Fowler edition, but I think it should be up a minor 2nd, not a minor third, unless you are referring to an edition I have no seen.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 16:06, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
:I'm just guessing that d is a plausible original key, the minor third being a popular transposition for editors of English music. If you based yours on the Fowler, then that would be _down_ a minor second! Maybe better not to speculate; I'd better try to remember take a look next time I'm at the library, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:50, 13 March 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== 2 cents ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your comments on my talk page. I had decided not to continue replying to the gentleman of very set opinion. Regards, Paul Marchesano [[User:Marchesa|Marchesa]] 20:56, 29 April 2011 (CDT)<br />
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==[[Ewig dein WoO 161 (Ludwig van Beethoven)| "Ewig Dein"]] - Voicing ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for your revision. I'm pretty new on this pages. But in case you decide to perform the canon with mixed choir (for example SST), the voicing isn't equal any more. Is this a problem? [[User:B.peterson|bp]] 08:16, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
:Not for me personally ;-) (A purist within earshot might take issue with the resulting 64 inversions.) <br />
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:But the voicing template doesn't need to foresee every possible performance option: for a cappella works we often list AATBB in the General info. section and let editors add Category:SSATB in their Edition notes, and I see that [[Say, wanton, will you love me? (Thomas Weelkes)]] might be treated this way. Welcome to CPDL, and thanks for your editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 16:30, 10 May 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== tidying up duplicate page ==<br />
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"(Deletion log); 19:46 . . Richard Mix (Talk | contribs) deleted "Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen" (Superfluous page: duplicates Wenn alle Brünnlein fließen (Friedrich Silcher))"<br />
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Thank you Richard, this was my first submission to CPDL, now I know that when you edit the composer's page first, you get the desired ''Title (Composer)'' suggested. Regards -- [[User:KlausFoehl|KlausFoehl]] 17:29, 16 July 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glen O'Brien) ==<br />
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Thank you Richard for an appropriate page for the arrangement. My name is actually spelt Glenn O'Brien.[[User:Glennobrien|Glennobrien]] 09:42, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
:You're welcome, and very sorry about that! I noticed you already fixed a couple of things, and I've just moved the page to [[Ich will hier bei dir stehen (arr. Glenn O'Brien)]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:45, 2 August 2011 (CDT)<br />
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== Magnificat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for the improvements to the page; it makes more sense indeed to have the Latin text come first. I'll see if I can improve it a bit more, putting the remaining translations in two columns. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 09:30, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Thanks for your sharp eyes on the Greek, too; I'll ask another question on [[Talk:Magnificat]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 17:42, 7 April 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Carols for Choirs ==<br />
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Hi Richard<br />
I am in the process of spreading sortable tables through the ''…for Choirs'' pages, and came across your suggestion to merge the Carols for Choirs pages ([[Carols for Choirs 1]], 1 Sept, 2011).<br />
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Is [[Carols for Choirs|this]] the sort of thing you had in mind?. Would it make sense to have any discussion about this [[Talk:Carols for Choirs|here]]?<br />
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[[User:Peter Gibson|Peter Gibson]] 07:57, 7 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the note! [[Talk:Carols for Choirs]] indeed makes sense. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 00:17, 8 May 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Musica Divina transcriptions ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for the additional information you are adding to the Musica Divina editions I've been transcribing. I would do it myself, if I knew which categories existed!<br />
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I've also noticed that you've added an original pitch and note length version of Lassus's Dextera Domini. As a couple of people have asked that I upload "unaltered" versions as well, my intention is to go back through the stuff I've already uploaded and do just that. (It's relatively easy, since I do the transcription into original clefs and note lengths to minimise transcription mistakes, and only then make any adjustments) I'm certainly not going to duplicate work that you've already done; this is just to let you know that providing originals (with modern clefs) is high up on my to-do list.<br />
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Your email address on your CPDL page appears not to work, by the way, but perhaps I interpreted it too literally.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 02:29, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:I was just about to write you congratulations and also see if we can better divide up Lassus: I already have on hand a lot of the offertory motets for 4 vv: Benedic anima; Benedicam Dom.; Benedictus es...doce; Confitebor tibi; Dextera Dom.; Dom. convertere; Dom. in auxilium; Dom vivifica me; Exaltabo te; Expectans; Gressus meos; Illumina oculos; Immittet angelus; Improperium; In te speravi; Intende voci; Jubilate Deo; Lauda anima mea; Meditabor, Perfice gressus; Populum humilium; Precatus es; Scapulis suis; Sperunt in te. What a drag that we're using incompatible programs, otherwise we'd have really powerful proofreading tools!<br />
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:Hotmail is what I hope the non-bots will guess, btw. ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 02:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Thanks. I'll do a skim through the Lassus that is available on the Musica Divina motets and let you know which ones aren't on your list, or otherwise available on CPDL. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 08:52, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Of the 20 Lassus motets that are in Musica Divina Vol II, the following don't currently appear in CPDL:<br />
:Benedicite Gentes<br />
:Domine in auxilium meum respice<br />
:Factus est Dominus firmamentum<br />
:In te speravi Domine<br />
:Joannes est nomen eius<br />
:Sperent in te omnes<br />
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I think these are all 4-part, but I haven't checked individually. There may be other motet-like things appearing in the other volumes, but I'll check that later. Given that you've already done the 4th and the 6th on the list, and assuming that you have another source anyway, I suggest that I pick the remaining 4, unless you have already started on any of them, Richard.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:12, 8 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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Didn't notice that you had included Domine in Auxilium on your list, so I've now uploaded copies of Benedicite Gentes, Factus est Dominus firmamentum and Joannes est nomen eius. I've also uploaded a 4-part version of Eripe me, since the version currently on CPDL is a 3-part one. All at original pitch and note value secundum Proske, although I've also uploaded a transposed version of Eripe me, since it goes so low that only proper basses can get there with any confidence!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 10:11, 14 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Incomplete Editions ==<br />
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LOL Richard, it seems we were having similar thoughts, but posted in different places; only after opening a discussion at [[Template talk:IncompleteEdition]] I saw that you had also done it at [[Category talk:Incomplete editions]]. Please check there too! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 19:34, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
:Done, and point about thin skins taken, though inapplicable to latest new contributor, I trust. Ciao! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 20:35, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
::Hi, thanks for your comments on the template talk page. I'm still thinking about the various possibilities and will reply you soon. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:47, 21 June 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Veni sponsa Christi ==<br />
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Good point, Richard. I actually read it as bride, but without thinking of the inappropriate connotations! Incidentally, I've noticed that some of the additions you are making in the form of "Common of..." are coming up red, presumably because the appropriate category page has yet to be created. At the moment, that's rather beyond my job group, though I hope to improve!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] 12:14, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
:You're [[Veni Sponsa Christi (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)|not the first]], nor was [[Veni, Sponsa Christi (Peter Philips)|Mick the last]]! I should have remembered the text via Couperin's Motets de Ss Anne & Suzanne. <br />
:Even now the redlinks can be used to see what other pieces are gathered but they should of course be turned blue eventually to standardize {{CiteCat|Common of Virgins}} (correct, according to Palmer/Burgess) vs. {{CiteCat|Common of a Virgin}} (top of my head) and also to be gathered as subcategories of {{CiteCat|Common of Saints}}. Carlos & Chuck were [[Category talk:Sacred music by season|very helpful with Sacred music by season]] and once I refresh my memory I'll have a go at the coding; in the meantime I remain in amazed admiration of your industry in making beautiful editions! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] 19:44, 22 July 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Sheppard's [[In manus tuas (John Sheppard)|In manus tuas]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard, thanks for making the titles uniform. I was thinking that perhaps we could rename all three of them to the usual ''In manus tuas I'', ''II'' and ''III'', what do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 08:32, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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:Yes, that would be more in line with prevailing practice and I considered it; on the other hand, it suggests that the non-parenthetical roman numeral is part of the original title, or at least a generally accepted numbering. I don't know if that is in fact the case... Are you aware of any previous discussions towards a cpdl style manual? At present we have:<br />
*'''title ''a'' N (composer)''' where it is possible to disambiguate by number of voices<br />
*'''title (composer) (voci (im-)pari)''' where there are mixed- and 'equal-' (better unmixed?) voice versions<br />
*'''Magnificat N toni (composer) ((im-)pari)''' for alternatim settings<br />
:All the above convey a lot of information to browsers of categories and have some historical precedent as well. Then we have:<br />
*'''Agnus Dei III (anonymous)''' which might mean "...dona nobis pacem", or the third such title in order of the Trent codices, or maybe the second, with another ms. source having already claimed I or II, or even the full title given by a composer (as in Ann Callaway's [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/scores/callawayagnus.pdf ''Agnus dei I''], listed as ''Agnus Dei 1'' in the [http://www.instantweb.com/a/arsispress/Choral.html Arsis Press catalogue]). (2nd setting) is a bit anglophone-centric, but I do at least like the parentheses. <br />
:Thanks for raising this issue! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 17:01, 11 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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::Richard, when I started editing on CPDL the current standards were pretty much established already, but I guess some older discussion can be found on this subject if one searches in the [[CW:BB]] or in the forums. The practice has been to add II (III etc.) to the title when a different setting of an otherwise homonym work is added. Regarding the use of parentheses to isolate the numbering, as in ''Agnus Dei (III)'', I believe it's a matter of personal taste. I particularly would never confuse ''Agnus Dei III'' with its third repetition :) I also prefer Roman numerals to Arabic ones. Best, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 01:13, 12 September 2012 (CDT)<br />
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== Funerary works ==<br />
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Hi Richard, Jonathan has suggested to create a category under this title, but I confess that I'm not knowledgeable enough on this subject to help him. Your opinion would be appreciated on my talk page. Thanks, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 06:05, 5 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Subgenre ==<br />
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I see that you introduced a new genre entry without any problem; way to go! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:46, 8 December 2012 (CST)<br />
:I was given very helpful hints! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:54, 9 December 2012 (CST)<br />
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== Lumen ad revelationem ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for correcting the category on this. I must say I was at something of a loss to think of how one would use a bit of the Nunc dimittis liturgically.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks also for the corrections you made to [[Dominica in Palmis (Emerico Lobo de Mesquita)|Dominica in Palmis]]! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] ([[User talk:Carlos|talk]]) 23:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Your edition of Victimae paschali laudes by Orlando di Lasso ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I'm working on this piece and I would like to check with you the last note of bass on bar 59 (G, syllable "Ma"). The Sämtliche Werke (Neue Reihe) edition published by Bärenreiter appears to have an F instead. Could you please confirm that the G is OK? Thank you. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 18:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I can't remember if it was an editorial choice or in whatever source I used then; the F seems implausible though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I'll use the G then. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] ([[User talk:Choralia|talk]]) 05:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== LinkText alternative text for link display ==<br />
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Hi Richard. I saw your query on [[Template talk:LinkText]] and have added a fix for that (just add new field "alt=Psalm 147 (vulgata)" to get "Psalm 147 (vulgata)" displayed as the link. I haven't documented it yet or expanded its functionality for more than one link yet, but you raised a good point that was easy to fix! &nbsp; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 14:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Very neat, thanks! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 19:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== S S Wesley Magnificat in E ==<br />
Hi, Richard.<br />
I agree that FF is more likely than EE in the Alto, bar 5, since ATB are otherwise in unison (or octaves). I've changed my edition accordingly. It would be good to get hold of an original source, but I can't find one on the web at all. Until then, at least my edition is usable, which the John Henry Fowler one wasn't!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 13:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Purcell anthems ==<br />
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Richard, thank you for your useful additions to the Purcell anthems I've been uploading recently. Much appreciated. You may be able to help with a piece of notation that occasionally appears in the source document. This is :S:. My guess is that it is a form of repeat mark, but I have failed to find any confirmation of this, either on the internet, or in a couple of musical dictionaries that I've looked at.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 12:44, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I'll look later if there's a facsim. link; John Gosling uses something a bit like that for a trill. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:54, 30 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, [http://imslp.org/wiki/Harmonia_Sacra_(Purcell,_Henry) pp36-7] is indeed no ornament but a ''segno.'' If two minim rests are understood it could work as a ''petit reprise''. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 08:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, thanks for that useful link. You'll notice from my most recent upload that I've added the Z number. When I get time, I'll go through the Purcell page and add the Z numbers to the other editions. Incidentally, the one I have just uploaded is the last one in the facsimile I was working from, so there will now be a hiatus, as far as Purcell is concerned!<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 09:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasonal music ==<br />
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Hi Richard, I've just created [[ChoralWiki:Seasonal music]] in order to simplify your weekly updates. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 15:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think I can remember where to go in the future, and that's editable by non-admins who might want to take over, probably a good thing. Since it's less intuitive how to edit the Main page, should there be a pointer on Talk:? There's a little more on [[User talk:CHGiffen#Main page]]. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 10:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Richard, what did you have in mind when you proposed to automate this page? Should it be updated on a monthly basis, or is it preferable on a weekly basis? In that case, which day of the week would be best for the updates? If you already have an idea of what should be displayed on each month (or week), please post it on [[ChoralWiki talk:Seasonal music]] and I'll take care of the rest. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deus in adjutorium/Domine ad adjuvandum ==<br />
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Richard, I think you may not have fully appreciated to muddle I was trying to sort out! The ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' page was created by me in my first attempt to tidy up the text pages. That was before I related it properly to the ''Deus in adjutorium'' page, which makes it clear that the source text is the same. Some versions of ''Domine ad adjuvandum'' appeared on both text pages, some on neither. As a first step, putting everything on the same page seemed sensible. (This is of course about the Vespers versicle; there is also a separate page for the introit which draws on the same text.)<br />
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I think it's at least arguable that two separate text pages might be better, though there would need to be clear cross links, as with ''Tantum ergo'' and ''Pange lingua''. So your views on how best to do this, given your detailed understanding of the minutiae of Roman Catholic liturgy, would be welcome.<br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 17:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm often in [[Tota pulchra es|a muddle]] myself ;-) I think you did well to make a single page and regard them as the same text, and I imagine "Domine ad" settings would normally be preceded by an intoned "Deus in". I would urge though that non-standard versions be left on the work pages: One should be able learn that Gastoldi has some weird verse by looking [[Domine ad adiuvandum (Giovanni Gastoldi)|at this page]], and later someone can figure out what's up. [[Domine ad adjuvandum me (Orlando di Lasso)|Lasso's Offertory]] uses the Gradual's non-vulgate translation of Ps. 40 (If you want to really set your head spinning look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Psalters WP's Latin psalters article]). All the best, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== cat vs vcat ==<br />
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Hi Richard, just a quick reminder: when linking to a voicing category as [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ave_Maria_(Charles_Gounod)&diff=next&oldid=497976 you did here], please remember to use {{tl|vcat}} instead of {{tl|cat}}. Otherwise the work may not be locatable by the Multi-Category Search when that specific voicing is searched for. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 03:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Nunc dimittis ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Could you explain what it is you were doing with the [[Nunc dimittis]] page? As near as I can tell, if you were trying to collect together settings that have been paired with a Magnificat (for Choral Evensong use in the Anglican tradition) and separate out all the others, then from what I can tell, the work is incomplete. On the other hand, an isolate ''Nunc dimittis'' (or ''Magnificat'') could just as well be intended as a part of an "Evening Service"&nbsp;&ndash; as my own setting is (and now appears orphaned along with a couple of other settings below the "Evening Service" list, and the same goes for the Mundy setting which was evidently intended for Anglican use. Any clarification (and cleanup) would be appreciated. Thanks! &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure; besides the self explanatory part, the 3 orphans are: *[[Nunc dimittis (Charles H. Giffen)]], [[Nunc Dimittis Canonico Johannes (Harrison Hackett)]], and [[Nunc Dimittis (William Mundy)]]. I didn't have enough information handy to decide to which they belonged, but didn't think to add a cleanup tag. Does the Mundy then have an accompanying Mag.? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't know if the Mundy has a matching, but I'd be surprised if it didn't. What about the Tim Risher, which has no matching Mag listed (as far as I can tell)? This aside, I wonder why the category {{CiteCat|Evening Canticles}} already does (or should do) the classification you're seeking. Are you planning to do the same thing to the [[Magnificat]] page? &ndash; [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::(I did find the Mundy.) As I recall, I was interested in Latin settings at the time, and winnowing out "In English, as Part of an Evening Service" seemed a good idea. If you have thoughts on organizing the page, let's move to [[Talk:Nunc dimittis]], though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 00:34, 18 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Pange Lingua ==<br />
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Thanks for your note, Richard.<br />
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No, there is no intention of recombining the Tantum ergo and Pange lingua pages. You may recall that there was a discussion about this a year or more back and the consensus was that a split would be appropriate, given the large number of settings and the different liturgical uses - you will know much more about the latter than I do!<br />
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There was an earlier discussion, which again you may recall, about whether the list of works on the text pages should be created automatically, (which is efficient, but cannot include information useful to the searcher, like voicing, or what parts of the text are used in a particular edition) or manually. The disadvantage of the manual list is that editors may neglect to add the relevant details to the text page.<br />
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Carlos has come up with a neat solution, which lists those editions which refer to the text page but do not appear in the manual list. There are two reasons for items being on that list; the obvious one, that the editor has neglected to add it, and a subtler one, that the name of the works page has been altered in some way, without all the relevant links being checked and altered accordingly.<br />
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What I have been doing when I come upon a page with a "missing items" list is to make the necessary manual additions, and adjustments to works page links that have been changed. <br><br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 18:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== I heard a voice from heaven - Tomkins ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that. I think what must have happened is that I've inadvertently deleted the Tomkins files while thinking they were the Goss or Morley settings, since I hadn't included the composer name in the file name. I've taken the opportunity to do a bit of tidying - the version I had originally done now looks rather cramped - but it should all be there now.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ich hebe meine Augen SWV 31 ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting the duplicated title. I'm not sure where it came from and deleting it caused some difficulty. However, now sorted, so I've removed the score error message. <br />
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On musica ficta, yes, you have interpreted it correctly. The only possible confusion might be that, in the source, the figured bass is also written above the stave and that has accidentals in it too. <br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 20:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I suppose so! Have you seen those Italian prints where the 'accidental' is on the staff but, when one peers closely enough, centered on the line or space a third above the bass note? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Richard, in case you are not 'watching' my talk page, I've replied to your latest query about ''Ad te levavi animam meam'' there, to keep the thread together. [[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Da pacem, Domine]] ==<br />
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Hi Richard! I noticed that you moved this text page to the comma-less form. There are around 4-5 work titles that use the version with comma; should we standardize them by removing the comma? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 01:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi, <br />
:I don't think so, unless a NoTi(tle) template for text pages is being contemplated. Work titles can follow the composer's (or even editor's) usage, while uniform text page title style (borrowed from Solsmes indexing style) is just to take some guesswork out of adding LinkText|unpunctuated title. For that reason I'd [[Category_talk:Voicing#Renaming Categories|still like to do something]] about the red {{CC|Solo soprano}} and the ridiculously cumbersome to remember [[Category talk:Hymn meters#Simpler meter names|hymn meter names.]] [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 21:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
::OK! I sometimes add commas to titles if I think it'll clarify their meaning, but I agree that for Latin this is not so common or even necessary. Regarding hymn meter names, this is a somewhat cryptic subject to me, sorry for not being able to contribute to the discussion. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 22:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Seid Barmherzig (Heinrich Schütz) ==<br />
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Unfortunately not, Richard. That was my initial thought, but bars 198-210 are different, although the notes are often the same. So I've rolled back your edit.<br />
[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 21:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== O sacramentum pietatis ==<br />
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Hi Richard! After creating a text page for ''[[O sacramentum pietatis]]'', I noticed that [[O sacramentum pietatis H 260 (Marc-Antoine Charpentier)|the text used by Charpentier]] is completely different. Maybe you (or James?) could help identify the source of this second text? And how can we properly differentiate both titles, in your opinion? Thanks! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 23:25, 29 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tota pulchra es (Gregorian chant) ==<br />
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Hi, Richard. You removed the 'Broken link' tag of [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) this edition/page]. It's a link to the Abel DiMarco's site, where we find two links: one for Palestrina and the other for Lassus. Where do we have to go to find the score? Please help the users. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 14:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Claude; sorry, I don't quite understand: I can click the link to Abel's site, click on T, get:<br />
*Tantum ergo. Partitura<br />
*Te lucis ante terminum. Partitura<br />
*Tollite portas. Partitura<br />
*Tota pulchra es. Partitura<br />
*Tu es qui venturus es?. Partitura<br />
*Turba multa. Partitura<br />
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:then (on the third try) clicking on Tota pulcra I get the advertised file with the Gregorian chant. Is there perhaps a different page that has ambiguous links? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:36, 29 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, Richard. It's weird, when I click on T, get:<br />
::• Tota Pulchra es. Lassus (2 v. i.) Partitura <br />
::• Tota pulchra es. Palestrina (Coro 5 v.m.) Partitura <br />
::the page is that one: http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/t/<br />
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::BTW, I don't see how I could merge pages according to your suggestion [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Agnus_Dei_a_3_(Francesco_Lorenzo_Luciani) here] because I don't find the same underlay text, nor the same music. ;-) [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::Weird indeed! There seem to be separate indexes for chant and polyphony. From your page I was finally able to click my way to http://www.mipucpr.org/cantoral/cantoral-gregoriano/#T The trick is to use the lower of the two indexes. Shall I revise the link on http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Tota_pulchra_es_(Gregorian_chant) ? <br />
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:::I don't remember what I was thinking about on the Luciani page, though. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Hello guys! I, just like Richard, was only looking at the lower index that pointed to the correct work on that same page. Only now I noticed the other indexes above that lead to another page with polyphonic works. I've tweaked the {{CT|Website}} template so that now it adds the index automatically, based on work title (#T in this case). How do you like it? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] [[File:Email.gif|link=Special:EmailUser/Carlos]] 03:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That's great, thanks. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 07:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Thank you ==<br />
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Hi Richard. Thanks for your (belated) welcome. And thanks for your kind words about my edition. [[User:D-fished|D-fished]] ([[User talk:D-fished|talk]]) 20:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Vater Abraham ==<br />
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Richard, thanks for spotting that I don't know the range of a concert flute! I've altered the files so that the second flute is an alto flute, duly transposing the notes and changing the description accordingly.[[User:Jamesgibb|Jamesgibb]] ([[User talk:Jamesgibb|talk]]) 16:37, 10 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== nonbot seeking dothint ==<br />
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hey richard! giovanni.cervo or senza punto at the thermodynamix postmastery? <br><br />
k regards <br><br />
Tulipo Petressian 19:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I don't own a dictionary with the word "dothint", sorry! [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 07:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: sorry too, but the dothint wasn't even in the question. which was: please give me a clue about whether or not there would be a dot between name and surname in your mail address! Tulipo Petressian 08:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Pour_forth_no_more_(George_Frideric_Handel)&diff=593100Pour forth no more (George Frideric Handel)2016-01-25T23:20:07Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Music files */</p>
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*{{PostedDate|2016-01-25}} {{CPDLno|38324}} [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mp3}} {{mp3}}]<br />
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:'''Edition notes:''' Source: Novello (London), n.d.(ca.1880), reprint by Edwin F. Kalmus(N.Y), n.d.(after 1933) Public Domain (as found on IMSLP)<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Pour forth no more''<br><br />
{{Composer|George Frideric Handel}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Thomas Morell}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Oratorios}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
{{Instruments|Unknown}}<br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
(Zebul:)<br />
Pour forth no more unheeded pray'rs<br />
To idols deaf and vain.<br />
No more with vile unhallow'd airs<br />
The sacred rites profane.}}<br />
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[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=George_Frideric_Handel&diff=593089George Frideric Handel2016-01-25T23:08:56Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Oratorios */</p>
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<div>{{redirect|Handel|Jacob Handl}}<br />
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'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 23 February 1685 Halle<br />
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'''Died:''' 14 April 1759, London<br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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*{{NoCo|Pour forth no more}}<br />
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===Anthems===<br />
{{Top}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
{{Middle}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
* '''''Jephtha, HWV 70'''''<br />
**''No.3'' {{NoCo|Pour forth no more}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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[[Category:German composers]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Pour_forth_no_more_(George_Frideric_Handel)&diff=593088Pour forth no more (George Frideric Handel)2016-01-25T23:06:42Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Original text and translations */</p>
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*{{PostedDate|2016-01-25}} {{CPDLno|38324}} [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_jephtha_pour_forth_no_more.mp3}} {{mp3}}]<br />
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==General Information==<br />
'''Title:''' ''Pour forth no more''<br><br />
{{Composer|George Frideric Handel}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Thomas Morell}}<br />
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{{Voicing|1|Solo B}}<br><br />
{{Genre|Sacred|Oratorios}}<br />
{{Language|English}}<br />
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==Original text and translations==<br />
{{Text|English|<br />
(Zebul:)<br />
Pour forth no more unheeded pray'rs<br />
To idols deaf and vain.<br />
No more with vile unhallow'd airs<br />
The sacred rites profane.}}<br />
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[[Category:Sheet music]]<br />
[[Category:Baroque music]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=George_Frideric_Handel&diff=593087George Frideric Handel2016-01-25T23:05:28Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* List of choral works */</p>
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<div>{{redirect|Handel|Jacob Handl}}<br />
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'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 23 February 1685 Halle<br />
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'''Died:''' 14 April 1759, London<br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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*{{NoCo|Pour forth no more}}<br />
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===Anthems===<br />
{{Top}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
{{Middle}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
* '''''Jephtha, HWV 70'''''<br />
**''No.3'' {{NoCo|Pour forth no more}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/ausgaben/uni_ausgabe.html?projekt=1193214396&recherche=ja&ordnung=sig Münchener DigitalisierungsZentrum / Bayerische Staatsbibliothek: Gesamtwerk, Deutschen Händelgesellschaft. Hrsg. von Friedrich Chrysander]<br />
*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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[[Category:German composers]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=George_Frideric_Handel&diff=593086George Frideric Handel2016-01-25T23:02:25Z<p>Tulipo petressian: New work entry: Pour forth no more</p>
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'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 23 February 1685 Halle<br />
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'''Died:''' 14 April 1759, London<br />
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'''Biography:'''<br><br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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*{{NoCo|Pour forth no more}}<br />
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===Anthems===<br />
{{Top}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
* '''''Jephtha, HWV 70'''''<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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'''Title:''' ''Pour forth no more''<br><br />
{{Composer|George Frideric Handel}}<br />
{{Lyricist|Thomas Morell}}<br />
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'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 23 February 1685 Halle<br />
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'''Died:''' 14 April 1759, London<br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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===Anthems===<br />
{{Top}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
* '''''Jephtha, HWV 70'''''<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/ausgaben/uni_ausgabe.html?projekt=1193214396&recherche=ja&ordnung=sig Münchener DigitalisierungsZentrum / Bayerische Staatsbibliothek: Gesamtwerk, Deutschen Händelgesellschaft. Hrsg. von Friedrich Chrysander]<br />
*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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[[Category:German composers]]</div>Tulipo petressianhttps://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=George_Frideric_Handel&diff=593079George Frideric Handel2016-01-25T22:44:46Z<p>Tulipo petressian: /* Oratorios */</p>
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'''Aliases:''' Born '''Georg Friedrich Händel''' (Haendel on typewriters without ä), he adopted the phonetic spelling '''Hendel''' in Italy around 1707. In 1727 he petitioned for British citizenship under the name '''George Frideric Handel''' and this has been recently adopted by major reference works like ''Baker's'' and ''New Grove''. He nevertheless usually signed his name and published as '''George Frederick Handel''' and that is what is inscribed on his funeral monument in Westminster Abbey's Poets Corner. <br />
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==Life==<br />
'''Born:''' 23 February 1685 Halle<br />
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'''Died:''' 14 April 1759, London<br />
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'''Biography:'''<br><br />
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==List of choral works==<br />
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===Anthems===<br />
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*{{NoCo|Birthday Ode for Queen Anne}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-qab.pdf|hand-qab.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Brockes Passion}} &nbsp; ''This large work (in German) is available for download in 4 sections''<br />
*{{NoCo|Canticorum jubilo}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo| Chandos Anthem No. 1: No. 4 - Be ye sure that the Lord he is God}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_1-4_be_ye_sure.mp3}} {{mp3}}])<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 4: No. 6 - O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_4-6_o_worship_the_lord_in_the_beauty_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 6: HWV 251b - As pants the hart}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
* '''''Chandos Anthem No. 7, "My Song shall be alway"'''''<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 1 - Sonata}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch71.pdf|han-ch71.mid|han-ch71.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 2 - My song shall be alway}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch72.pdf|han-ch72.mid|han-ch72.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 4 - The Heavens are thine}} &nbsp; ([{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_chandos_7-4_the_heavens_are_thine_AB_kb.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 6 - Blessed is the People, O Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch76.pdf|han-ch76.mid|han-ch76.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 7: No. 8 - Thou art the glory of their strength}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch78.pdf|han-ch78.mid|han-ch78.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 8: O come, let us sing unto the Lord}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch80.pdf|han-ch80.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 1 - O praise the Lord with one consent}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch91.pdf|han-ch91.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 2 - Praise him, all ye that in this house}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch92.pdf|han-ch92.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 3 - For this our truest int'rest}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch93.pdf|han-ch93.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 4 - That God is great}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch94.pdf|han-ch94.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 5 - With cheerful notes let all the earth}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch95.pdf|han-ch95.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 6 - God's tender mercy knows no bounds}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch96.pdf|han-ch96.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 7 - Ye boundless realms of joy}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch97.pdf|han-ch97.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 9: No. 8 - Your voices raise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch98.pdf|han-ch98.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Chandos Anthem No. 11: Let God Arise}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-cha0.pdf|han-cha0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Christmas (While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks)}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|xmassongbook}} {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Dank sei dir}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Dank_sei_die_Herr.pdf|Dank_sei_die_Herr.mid}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Dixit Dominus, HWV 232}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Flammende Rose, Zierde der Erden, HWV 210}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Foundling Hospital Anthem, HWV 268}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-fou.pdf|hand-fou.zip}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Funeral Anthem for Queen Caroline, HWV 264}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-woz.pdf|hand-woz.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Giù nei Tartari Regni, HWV 187}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Gloria in excelsis Deo}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Joy to the World}} &nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|The King Shall Rejoice (Coronation Anthem No. 2)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co2.pdf|Hand-co2.zip}}<br />
*{{NoComp|Lai visās malās (Canticorum jubilo)|George Frideric Handel (mel.)}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas.sib}} Sibelius 6]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas5.sib}} Sibelius 5]&nbsp; [{{filepath:Laivisasmalas3.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate Dominum}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|cantiga}} {{net}}] )<br />
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*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum (adapted)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-112.pdf|hand-112.mid|hand-112.sib|Sibelius}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Laudate pueri Dominum in D|Laudate pueri Dominum in D (full score, parts)}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|237lauda.pdf}} [http://www.classicalarchives.com/handel.html#handel_sacred {{extmid}}] [{{filepath:HWV237_Laudate_PML.sib}} Sibelius 3] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Let Thy Hand be Strengthened (Coronation Anthem No. 3)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-co3.pdf|hand-co3.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Lobet Gott mit Jubelschall}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lord, I Trust Thee}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|Mather}}/cd/index.shtml?27.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Lucrezia, HWV 145}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Meine Seele hört im Sehen, HWV 207}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|My Heart is Inditing (Coronation Anthem No. 4)}} HWV 261 &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Nisi Dominus, HWV 238}} &nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|No, di voi non vo' fidarmi, HWV 189}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|O Praise the Lord With One Consent - Chandos Anthem No. 9 (complete)}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-ch90.pdf|han-ch90.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Par che mi nasce in seno un raggio di speranza}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Partì l'idolo mio, HWV 147}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 154}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Quel fior che all'alba ride, HWV 192}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Salve Regina, HWV 241}} &nbsp;<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rising World Jehovah crowned (No. 3 from 'Athalia')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv05203.pdf}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|neulied.pdf}} [{{filepath:Neulied.mid}} {{mid}}] {{LLinkW|||neulied.zip|MusiXTex}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in A major}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|kantor}}choir_orchestra/te_deum/haendel_III/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Te Deum in D (Dettingen) HWV 283}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?231.txt {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Their bodies are buried in peace}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peac.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Their_bodies_are_buried_in_peace.cap}} Capella] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Jubilate Deo}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utj0.pdf|han-utj0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Utrecht Te Deum}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-utt0.pdf|han-utt0.zip}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Vedendo amor, HWV 175}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Wash me throughly|Wash me throughly, HWV 248}} &nbsp; 2 editions available<br />
*{{NoCo|Zadok the Priest}}, Coronation Anthem Nº 1 &nbsp; {{editions|multiple}}<br />
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===Oratorios===<br />
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* '''''Alexander's Feast, HWV 75'''''<br />
**''No.10'' {{NoCo|Bacchus ever fair and young / Bacchus' blessings are a treasure}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.capx}} Capella] [{{filepath:Handel_alexander_eng_bacchus.mp3}} {{mp3}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Israel in Egypt, HWV 54}}''' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-54a.pdf}} 1, {{LLinkW|hand-54b.pdf}} 2, {{LLinkW|hand-54c.pdf}} 3, {{LLinkW|hand-54d.pdf}} 4, {{LLinkW||hand-54a.zip}} 1, {{LLinkW||hand-54b.zip}} 2, {{LLinkW||hand-54c.zip}} 3, {{LLinkW||hand-54d.zip}} 4, ''large work, 4 separate PDF files''<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Jephtha, HWV 70}}'''<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Joshua, HWV 64}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Glory to God (from Joshua, HWV 64)}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Joshua_Glory_to_God.pdf|Joshua_Glory_to_God.mid|Joshua_Glory_to_God.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Judas Maccabaeus, HWV 63}} &nbsp; {{editions|n}}<br />
**''Hallelujah, Amen'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jmh.pdf|hand-jmh.mid|hand-jmh.zip|Finale 2001}}<br />
**''See the conquering hero comes (Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt)'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-jm1.pdf|hand-jm1.mid|hand-jm1.zip|Finale 1998}}<br />
**''Sing unto God'' &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-sin.pdf|hand-sin.mid}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Throughout the Land (No. 8 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; ( {{LinkW|han-6708.pdf|han-6708.mid|han-6708.sib|Sibelius 2}} )<br />
**{{NoCo|Thine be the glory}} (descant only) &nbsp; ''2 editions available''<br />
**{{NoCo|Tochter Zion, freue dich}} {{editions|2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Messiah, HWV 56}}''' ''separate page for links to Messiah sheet music''<br />
**{{NoCo|For unto us a child is born (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Hand-for.pdf||Hand-for.sib|Sibelius 5}} <br />
**{{NoCo|Hallelujah Chorus (from Messiah)}} &nbsp; ''several versions available, keyboard, organ, full orchestra, and Latin choral version''.<br />
**{{NoCo|But Thanks Be To God (from 'Messiah')}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.singharmony.com/samples/messiah_scores.php {{net}}] )<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Samson, HWV 57}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Soundx.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Awake the trumpet's lofty sound II}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.pdf|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.mid|Awake_the_Trumpet's_Lofty_Sound_II.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Fix'd in His everlasting seat}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.pdf|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.mid|Fix'd_in_His_Everlasting_Seat.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Glorious hero}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Glorious_hero.pdf|Glorious_hero.mid|Glorious_hero.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Great Dagon has subdued our foe}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.pdf|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.mid|Great_Dagon_Has_Subdued_Our_Foe.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Let their celestial concerts all unite}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.pdf|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.mid|Let_Their_Celestial_Concerts.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|O first-created beam}} &nbsp; {{LLink|O_First-created_Beam.pdf|O_First-created_Beam.mid|O_First-created_Beam.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then round about the starry throne}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thr.pdf|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Throne.mid|Then_Round_About_The_Starry_Thronex.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Then shall they know}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Then_Shall_They_Know.pdf|Then_Shall_They_Know.mid|Then_Shall_They_Know.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To dust his glory they would tread}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tr.pdf|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.mid|To_Dust_His_Glory_They_Would_Tread.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To fame immortal go}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.pdf|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.mid|To_Fame_Immortal_Go.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To man God's universal law}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.pdf|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.mid|To_Man_God's_Universal_Law.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|To song and dance}} &nbsp; {{LLink|To_Song_And_Dance.pdf|To_Song_And_Dance.mid|To_Song_And_Dance.cap|Capella}}<br />
**{{NoCo|With thunder armed}} &nbsp; {{LLink|With_Thunder_Armed.pdf|With_Thunder_Armed.mid|With_Thunder_Armed.cap|Capella}}<br />
*'''{{NoCo|Solomon, HWV 67}}'''<br />
**{{NoCo|Nightingale chorus (No. 22 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hwv67-22.pdf}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Music, Spread Thy Voice Around (No. 46 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6746.pdf|han-6746.mid|han-6746.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
**{{NoCo|Praise the Lord (No. 56 from 'Solomon')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-6756.pd|han-6756.mid|han-6756.sib|Sibelius 2}}<br />
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*'''{{NoCo|Theodora, HWV 68}}'''<br />
**''O love divine'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_Oh_love_divine.pdf|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.mid|Han-Thedora-Oh_love_divine.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''How strange their ends'' &nbsp; {{LLink|Han_Theo_III_Hste.pdf|Han-How.mid|Han-How.myr|Harmony Assistant}}<br />
**''Angels ever bright and fair'' &nbsp; ( [{{website|cipoo_v}} {{net}}] )<br />
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===Operas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Alcina, HWV 34}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|han-alc0.pdf|sound/alcina-mid.zip|alcina-cap.zip|Capella}}<br />
*''Atalanta, HWV 35''<br />
*{{NoCo|Giulio Cesare, HWV 17}} &nbsp; ( [http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=119 {{net}}] )<br />
*''Ottone, re di Germania, HWV 15''<br />
**{{NoCo|Dopo l'orrore (aria from 'Ottone')}} &nbsp; {{LLinkW|hand-dop.pdf}} [{{filepath:Hand-dop.mid}} {{mid}}] )<br />
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===Arias===<br />
*{{NoCo|Affanni del pensier}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-affanni-del-pensier/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Ah! mio cor}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2007/handel-ah-mio-cor/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Alla caccia, HWV 79}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Als du auf dich genommen}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Händ_Dett.sib}} Sibelius 4] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Bacchus's Speech in Praise of Wine}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Care Selve}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-care-selve/ {{net}}] ) <br />
*{{NoCo|Cara sposa, amante cara}} (from ''Rinaldo'')&nbsp; {{editions|2}}<br />
*{{NoCo|E partirai, mia vita?, HWV 111}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Empio, diro, tu sei}} <br />
*{{NoCo|Lascia ch'io pianga}} &nbsp; {{editions|3}}<br />
*{{NoCo|Ombra mai fu}} (from ''Serse'')&nbsp; {{editions|4}}<br />
*{{NoCo|O ruddier than the cherry}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-i-rage-i-melt-i-burn-o-ruddier-than-the-cherry/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Rapture}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Sailors's Complaint|Sailors's Complaint, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|The Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber|Satyrs's Advice to a Stock-Jobber, The}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Strephon's Complaint of Love}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Tu mia speranza}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-tu-mia-speranza/ {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Turn not, O Queen, thy face away}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|artsong}}2008/handel-turn-not-o-queen-thy-face-away/ {{net}}] )<br />
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===Cantatas===<br />
*{{NoCo|Allor ch'io dissi addio, HWV 80}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Cecilia, volgi un sguardo, HWV 89}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.pdf}} {{pdf}}] [{{filepath:Handel cecilia volgi un sguardo.mid}} {{mid}}] [{{filepath:Cecilia, volgi un sguardo HWV 89 --- 1st-Part-Tenor Recitative and Air 'La Virtute e un vero nume'.sib}} Sibelius 6] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Nell'africane selve, HWV 136}} &nbsp; ( [{{website|wimabycomp}}Handel.php {{net}}] )<br />
*{{NoCo|Spande ancor a mio dispetto}} &nbsp; {{LLink|Han-spanfull.pdf||Han-spanfull.sib|Sibelius 6}}<br />
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===Hymn tunes===<br />
*[[Gopsal]]<br />
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===Vocal arrangements based on Handel's works===<br />
*{{NoCo|GF Handel Gavotte}} &nbsp; ( [{{filepath:GF_Handel_Gavotte.pdf}} {{pdf}}] )<br />
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*[http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/ausgaben/uni_ausgabe.html?projekt=1193214396&recherche=ja&ordnung=sig Münchener DigitalisierungsZentrum / Bayerische Staatsbibliothek: Gesamtwerk, Deutschen Händelgesellschaft. Hrsg. von Friedrich Chrysander]<br />
*[http://www.dresdner-kammerchor.de/music/Dresdner-Kammerchor_Haendel-Saul_Chorus-How-excellent.mp3 Saul, Chorus: How excellent - Dresdner Kammerchor]<br />
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