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Hello Jean, welcome to CPDL! Thank you for sharing with us your edition of L'adieu des bergers. Regards, —Carlos Email.gif 22:07, 8 June 2014 (UTC)


Hello Carlos, thank you for your help and reply. I am new as a contributor to CPDL, but since I have been profiting a lot from the site and sometimes generate scores for our choir I wanted to share that with you. Please tell me if I am doing something wrong or should change things. Best regards Jean (French for John)

Hi Jean, you went through your first submission process very well! To make things even simpler for you, there's no need to run the "Add work" form every time you upload an updated version of an edition; when the new score is uploaded using the very same filename, it automatically overwrites the previous version and is instantly available for download by visitors.
Si tu as plus de doutes et préfèrent en discuter avec un admin qui parle français nativement, tu peux également contacter Claude Tallet, qui se fera un plaisir de t'aider. Cordialement, —Carlos Email.gif 06:40, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Reply by Jean

Hi Carlos, thank you and thanks for your help! I am quite OK with English as a conversation language. Let me explain: I am from the Netherlands, my family is largely from Belgium, near Louvain, that is why my name is French. I do speak French, but my mother tongue is Dutch. I have been living in Frankfurt am Main Germany for the last 40 years however. So I speak fluent Dutch, German and English, but French only say at working level. I explained my name "Jean" to you because most USA and English speaking people think of me as being female and keep writing to me as Mrs. Jean Smolders. Once that is in their IT system, you cannot get it out again most of the time. Cheers Jean

Lol, now I got it! Fortunately for you I live in Brazil, where Jean is a masculine name, too. :)
Cheers, —Carlos Email.gif 12:43, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Upload by Jean

Hi Carlos, I Uploaded a pdf end mid version of Giovanni Gabrieli's "Omnes gentes" for 16 singing voices. Could you please put it on the site. I am hopelessly unable to cope with the publishing procedure. Thanks so much Jean

Hi Jean, I could find your pdf for Omnes gentes plaudite, but not the midi file. The pdf is already available here. Regards, —Carlos Email.gif 17:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

And another one

just added another one :-) Bianciardi: Benedictus es Domine (bian-ben)

Regards Jean (and thanks for your help!

Hi Jean, are you sure that the upload completed successfully? I cannot find this file among your uploads (see here: Special:Contributions/Jean.Smolders). Please check and write me back, ok? —Carlos Email.gif 17:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Carlos, sorry for the delay, I was not home.

I retried to upload the missing files now: Gabr-omn.mid, Bian-ben.pdf and Bian-ben.mid. I think the uploads were Ok because I can see them in the appertaining list. I am not sure at this point if I have to fill out the "Add Works" forms again? Thanks again and best regards Jean

Hi Jean, now I could locate the files, thanks. Here is Bianciardi's Benedictus es Domine. Regards, —Carlos Email.gif 04:36, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi Carlos, thanks for your help again! Best regards, Jean

AddNewWork does not work for me

Hi Carlos, I uploaded a polish anthem: Gaude Mater Polonia as Gorc-Gau.pdf. It shows up in the contributions list. When I now go to the Composers Page (which already exists) and try AddNewWork, fill out the fields and specify either the fileneneme only, or the complete URL and then press the bottom button I only obtain a blank browser window. I am sorry I tried this several times (it says on the site that one shuold not do this). Can you help me once again? Thanks so much. Best regards Jean

Hi Jean, I don't know why the AddNewWork didn't work for you, maybe it's related to the web browser you were using. None of your attempts was saved, so don't worry about having tried multiple times. Maybe this happened for good, because according to the sources checked by me some time ago, this arrangement is not by Gorczycki, but by Klonowski. I've renamed your file to File:Klonowski - Gaude.pdf and added your edition to Gaude Mater Polonia (Teofil Klonowski). If you think that it was done by mistake, please let me know. If you agree with the attribution of the arrangement to Klonowski, please upload a new version with the corrected composer name. Regards, —Carlos Email.gif 22:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Carlos, I engraved this from a handwritten score that we used in our choir and that said Gorczycki (1666-1734). Now I searched for Klonowski and found a score attributed to Klonowski (1805-1876) that is exactly the same as mine. So I am puzzled, probably my version is an arrangement by Klonowski. I am easy to attribute this to Klonowski, but I have a question: look here: : my version looks like a one to one copy of this, so I probably should withdraw this for copy right reasons, or is the copy right extinguished since klonowski died 1876?
Thanks for your help and best regards!
Jean, 8 december 2014
Hi Jean, Max has kindly researched this for us and found what follows:
  • Through Worldcat I located an edition of "Gaude Mater Polonia" arranged by Klonowski and copyrighted in 1938 in the US. Apparently copyright was not renewed in 1966, so this work should be definitely public domain in the US.
    Worldcat also reports the edition mentioned by Jean Smolders in his talk page. Apparently it was published in 1994, therefore such specific edition (not the work) is copyrighted in most countries. However, I don't think that Jean Smolders' edition is "a one to one copy" of that edition: the typesetting is definitely different (different number of bars per system, different dynamics and dynamics markings, etc.). Notes are probably the same, however this is totally normal for different editions of the same work. The handwritten score that Jean Smolders used as a source may have been derived from any other public domain editions, so I don't think that anybody can claim any copyright on Jean Smolders' edition. Max
Best regards, —Carlos Email.gif 17:39, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you Max and Carlos for your help. I am releived to hear that. So I now uploaded the piece with the corrected composer name.
Best regards, Jean

Thanks Carlos!

Hi Carlos, thanks so much for positioning "O süße Liebe".

Best regards Jean

You're welcome! Thank you too, for this new edition. :) —Carlos (talk) Email.gif 00:07, 24 October 2015 (UTC)